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sibelian

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273. Well, what happens in America eventually happens everywhere...

Tue Mar 18, 2014, 01:16 PM

Mar 2014

... or so my education as a baby political junkie led me to believe. I'm not sure it's true anymore. The world seems to be slowly breaking back up into bits.

I don't know if it's good or bad... but. There we are.

Europe isn't really all that interesting politically, to my mind all the most serious (and least well recognised) left wing thought comes from the States, possibly because the left is so marginalised and therefore, in a strange sense, free to think... Stonewall was a Stateside victory. The Civil rights movement, the legalisation of marijuana movement.... lots of serious thought goes into these things, also feminism, class warfare, analysis of corporatism, all the big stuff happens in the States. People don't think so, but it's true. The States is not stupid, just very big...

So keep at it! The world is watching you...

no pressure!

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Time for me to go, too. [View all] sibelian Mar 2014 OP

Those pictures are amazing Hayduke Bomgarte Mar 2014 #1

Visit! sibelian Mar 2014 #83

Give us an address. Just kidding. I've been to Edenburgh but didnt see much of the rhett o rick Mar 2014 #127

Thank you sibelian Mar 2014 #153

See ya! saveferris Mar 2014 #2

Deep fried haggis... sibelian Mar 2014 #95

Stop in and see us once in a while. Don't leave us completely. Autumn Mar 2014 #3

Welllll sibelian Mar 2014 #91

+1 LiberalLoner Mar 2014 #117

Sorry you're leaving, sibelian, elleng Mar 2014 #4

Thank you ellen sibelian Mar 2014 #96

FORTUNATELY didn't have MUCH rain, elleng Mar 2014 #103

OH NO YOU DON'T NuclearDem Mar 2014 #5

OH YES I DO sibelian Mar 2014 #97

Be well and good luck in your efforts at home. cry baby Mar 2014 #6

thank you cry baby sibelian Mar 2014 #157

Best of luck to you, and thank you for the pictures! petronius Mar 2014 #7

Okidoke sibelian Mar 2014 #158

I will miss you. woo me with science Mar 2014 #8

Thank you, woo. sibelian Mar 2014 #159

Great post, and I couldn't agree more re Woo ... sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #219

... woo me with science Mar 2014 #235

Thanks for that beautiful post... woo me with science Mar 2014 #234

This Irishwoman says good luck! If we could do it, the Scots can too. riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #9

Thanks, rider. sibelian Mar 2014 #160

Good luck with your endeavor. Hopefully it will go better than your country's previous attempts. corkhead Mar 2014 #10

Well, yes. sibelian Mar 2014 #161

Damn LittleBlue Mar 2014 #11

Thank you Blue sibelian Mar 2014 #162

beautiful photos G_j Mar 2014 #12

well, dang, sibelian. Now you owe us a pint in the pub, for leaving. villager Mar 2014 #13

Thank you villager sibelian Mar 2014 #164

My family traces its roots to 15th Century Scotland IDemo Mar 2014 #14

If you've a couple mil handy... sibelian Mar 2014 #165

Peace. A-Schwarzenegger Mar 2014 #15

And unto thee, arnold sibelian Mar 2014 #166

Don't leave us libodem Mar 2014 #16

'Tis possible. sibelian Mar 2014 #101

and an old dream of mine... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #114

Beautiful! BlueMTexpat Mar 2014 #17

Well I might be back before then... sibelian Mar 2014 #183

Although I usually scoff at most GBCW threads, YOU will be missed!!!! Cooley Hurd Mar 2014 #18

... sibelian Mar 2014 #151

Incredible photos Ruby the Liberal Mar 2014 #19

Not mine, I should say... ! sibelian Mar 2014 #167

Well you will be missed. zeemike Mar 2014 #20

Thank you sibelian Mar 2014 #168

Take care of the homeland! riqster Mar 2014 #21

Speak for yourself, Rig.. whathehell Mar 2014 #52

Work Hard and Make it Happen! JimDandy Mar 2014 #22

There'sa quote in an Alisdair Gray book that fits sibelian Mar 2014 #175

Great quote! n/t JimDandy Mar 2014 #177

Thank You for the Beautiful Photographs; they make me want to visit Scotland! Martin Eden Mar 2014 #23

Then come one day and see for yourself :) sibelian Mar 2014 #176

Bye Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #24

It's been a pleasure meeting you nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #25

You too nadine, you too sibelian Mar 2014 #35

The game's rigged, but I don't see that outcome as being "independence" (from the UK). Ghost Dog Mar 2014 #122

This message was self-deleted by its author go west young man Mar 2014 #137

? sibelian Mar 2014 #149

Neither voluntarily joined the Union Ghost Dog Mar 2014 #156

Beautiful photos. WOW oldandhappy Mar 2014 #26

Cheers, dude! sibelian Mar 2014 #188

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #27

Sure... rub it in. gtar100 Mar 2014 #28

Come and see one day, if you wish. sibelian Mar 2014 #189

Beautiful! herding cats Mar 2014 #29

It's something, eh? sibelian Mar 2014 #190

welcome kardonb Mar 2014 #30

Thank you Karin! sibelian Mar 2014 #193

Fare you well, and check back in when you can Hekate Mar 2014 #31

Yes. It's going to get a bit bickery over here on the rainy isles. sibelian Mar 2014 #194

So, is there any good golf courses your way? AngryAmish Mar 2014 #32

Many near where I live in Edinburgh sibelian Mar 2014 #195

My man, you are right near North Berwick and Muirfield! AngryAmish Mar 2014 #208

Yeah but... sibelian Mar 2014 #210

I say thee nay! shenmue Mar 2014 #33

Well, I CAN'T. sibelian Mar 2014 #196

my scotish relatives *tell* me to say "thank fuck and piss of back to scotland" when they go! unblock Mar 2014 #34

It's starting to look promising! sibelian Mar 2014 #197

Beautiful pics! Hope you check in now and then! think Mar 2014 #36

Thank you! sibelian Mar 2014 #200

Gorgeous Photos..Thanks for Sharing and KoKo Mar 2014 #37

And to you... sibelian Mar 2014 #201

With a son and daughter-in-law in Glasgow, I have a stake in this, too NBachers Mar 2014 #38

... sibelian Mar 2014 #202

I do not think we ever chatted before PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #39

We are as advertised... sibelian Mar 2014 #203

Let us know what happen with the vote.. HipChick Mar 2014 #40

Actually, in the sunshine.... sibelian Mar 2014 #44

I don't blame you..my best friend growing up was from Glasglow.. HipChick Mar 2014 #59

Scotland is a glorious country! octoberlib Mar 2014 #41

Thank you so much! sibelian Mar 2014 #171

Holy cow! A Little Weird Mar 2014 #42

Perhaps one day we shall see you, then. sibelian Mar 2014 #204

Why do I get a virus warning when I open this thread? ramblin_dave Mar 2014 #43

Damn! sibelian Mar 2014 #45

Okay, virus warning no longer happens ramblin_dave Mar 2014 #47

Bloody Tiree... sibelian Mar 2014 #85

¡! Ghost Dog Mar 2014 #123

great photos. LittleGirl Mar 2014 #46

Well get over quick before it all goes to shit... sibelian Mar 2014 #186

depends on spouse LittleGirl Mar 2014 #207

Hope Scotland doesn't vote to split. Helen Borg Mar 2014 #48

We shall see, Helen. sibelian Mar 2014 #199

Good Luck! fascisthunter Mar 2014 #49

If everything goes acording to plan.... sibelian Mar 2014 #212

"Fair isle" indeed! JNelson6563 Mar 2014 #50

Sorry to see you go but I can see that this is a waste of time myself. Cleita Mar 2014 #51

Um. 1. England is not occupying Scotland. It is a voluntary Union, the UK, at present. Ghost Dog Mar 2014 #125

I don't envy you. sibelian Mar 2014 #213

Good for you. That's an important decisions for you to spend time on. cui bono Mar 2014 #53

Me too. sibelian Mar 2014 #221

soraidh xchrom Mar 2014 #54

Bye, xchrom... sibelian Mar 2014 #222

Edinburgh Castle from Princes St--more or less? truebluegreen Mar 2014 #55

Thank you, true... sibelian Mar 2014 #69

Finally, a classy farewell post tularetom Mar 2014 #56

I think I'm going to *have* to come back... sibelian Mar 2014 #150

You'll be missed, sibelian Oilwellian Mar 2014 #57

Thank you Oilwellian! sibelian Mar 2014 #214

Fair isle indeed! NRaleighLiberal Mar 2014 #58

haste ye back... sibelian Mar 2014 #215

...one day, driving to Glenmoor from Callander, we stopped by the Green Wellie NRaleighLiberal Mar 2014 #223

Of course you belong here, but if you must run off then have a great life. Rex Mar 2014 #60

Bah, it's not GBCW! sibelian Mar 2014 #216

Yes you do! You have every right! It is a free world my friend. Rex Mar 2014 #225

Call it a vacation, a hiatus, Warpy Mar 2014 #61

A holiday in my homeland? sibelian Mar 2014 #217

You will be missed sibelian..... socialist_n_TN Mar 2014 #62

We'll need all the backing we can get. sibelian Mar 2014 #218

Incredible photographs! etherealtruth Mar 2014 #63

Thank you, ethereal sibelian Mar 2014 #220

My "people' left there in the 1700s etherealtruth Mar 2014 #231

I have been to Scotland.. AsahinaKimi Mar 2014 #64

Scottish broadswords are ridiculous sibelian Mar 2014 #226

It was lovely but I think my next trip if anywhere will be back to AsahinaKimi Mar 2014 #233

Those photos are so beautiful, it almost makes me want to hike up my skirt and wade shraby Mar 2014 #65

Well, you can if you like... sibelian Mar 2014 #227

Cheery-bye 1000words Mar 2014 #66

Orra best, pal sibelian Mar 2014 #228

I wish you the best, sibelian. pacalo Mar 2014 #67

And to you, pacalo... sibelian Mar 2014 #229

what beautiful pictures! oh, I've been in love with Scotland forever. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2014 #68

Thanks, Blanche... sibelian Mar 2014 #230

Hey my family's from Scotland newfie11 Mar 2014 #70

Then come! sibelian Mar 2014 #237

Lol I'm packing newfie11 Mar 2014 #252

come and see us again. MFM008 Mar 2014 #71

Oui, mon cher sibelian Mar 2014 #238

Thanks for the great photos and wise contributions. bluedigger Mar 2014 #72

Many thanks! sibelian Mar 2014 #239

I love Scotland the Scottish people. RebelOne Mar 2014 #73

... sibelian Mar 2014 #240

We'll miss you. And hope you are successful in becoming independent. sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #74

Thank you sabrina... sibelian Mar 2014 #241

beautiful pictures .. come back every once in while littlewolf Mar 2014 #75

Thank you littlewolf... sibelian Mar 2014 #242

wow .... thank you so much .... awesome .... nt littlewolf Mar 2014 #251

Best of luck. Joe Shlabotnik Mar 2014 #76

Wah! sibelian Mar 2014 #243

Sorry to see you go, sibelian. calimary Mar 2014 #77

Then come! sibelian Mar 2014 #244

I hope you just take a break. Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #78

I with yourself also, BTA sibelian Mar 2014 #89

So long! Mz Pip Mar 2014 #79

We'll keep some beer warm for you. sibelian Mar 2014 #245

Du is open to all progressives anywhere. Great pictures lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #80

T'ku! sibelian Mar 2014 #246

See ya Braveheart Submariner Mar 2014 #81

There was a statue of Mel fricken Gibson, ya know. sibelian Mar 2014 #247

Sibelian, we were honored by your presence. Thank you for these gorgeous photos! classof56 Mar 2014 #82

...! sibelian Mar 2014 #249

Good luck in over there. progressoid Mar 2014 #84

We'll need it. sibelian Mar 2014 #250

Take Care and Good Luck LondonReign2 Mar 2014 #86

I've lived here a long time now... sibelian Mar 2014 #253

Come back soon! MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #87

I may do that... sibelian Mar 2014 #100

Toured your fair isle about 13 years ago. It is gorgeous! MoonRiver Mar 2014 #88

Some of us feel the same way. sibelian Mar 2014 #94

Glad to hear things may be improving! MoonRiver Mar 2014 #102

Well, originally we took the place of the wolves... sibelian Mar 2014 #155

gorgeous but.... Skittles Mar 2014 #90

I know but it's kind of rude. sibelian Mar 2014 #92

honestly, everyone has a dog in an American race Skittles Mar 2014 #108

Your rudeness has been noted marions ghost Mar 2014 #119

But we LIKE rude in America... eShirl Mar 2014 #180

Fare thee well. I'm sorry to see you go, I wish I had gotten to know you better. scarletwoman Mar 2014 #93

Thank you so much sibelian Mar 2014 #254

sorry to see you go, hope you change your mind. Mosby Mar 2014 #98

I'll return sibelian Mar 2014 #255

I am drinking a toast of your finest product right now, of the Highland variety. kwassa Mar 2014 #99

Can't stand the stuff! sibelian Mar 2014 #256

I love Scotland. I've been there 3 times. lob1 Mar 2014 #104

I didn't take 'em! sibelian Mar 2014 #257

Wonderful pictures, and you will be missed. JohnnyLib2 Mar 2014 #105

Thank you Johnny sibelian Mar 2014 #259

Good luck to you and your beautiful Scotland sibelian. redwitch Mar 2014 #106

OK! sibelian Mar 2014 #260

Sorry to see you go, and thanks for those great pictures Lifelong Protester Mar 2014 #107

I apologise on behalf of the entirety of Scotland for our cuisine. sibelian Mar 2014 #261

Thank you, I will. Lifelong Protester Mar 2014 #318

Fare The Well. Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #109

And to you, Warren... sibelian Mar 2014 #262

I wish you every success. LiberalAndProud Mar 2014 #110

I am a non-recovering DUholic. sibelian Mar 2014 #263

Good luck to you beveeheart Mar 2014 #111

Cheers, pal sibelian Mar 2014 #264

Good luck to you. Take care. Thanks for being here. glinda Mar 2014 #112

Bye Glinda... sibelian Mar 2014 #265

What a lovely place to live! 2naSalit Mar 2014 #113

Well, it doesn't ALL look like that... sibelian Mar 2014 #266

True 2naSalit Mar 2014 #316

Sorry you are leaving. Thanks for the pictures. Live and Learn Mar 2014 #115

Thank you Live and Learn sibelian Mar 2014 #267

Best of luck to you! fredamae Mar 2014 #116

Cheers Fredamae sibelian Mar 2014 #268

So long, sibelian! It's been good to know you! countryjake Mar 2014 #118

Ahhhh.... sibelian Mar 2014 #269

Too cool! countryjake Mar 2014 #289

Best wishes, sibelian! Zorra Mar 2014 #120

I will miss you, Zorra... sibelian Mar 2014 #270

Why do you need to leave? OnyxCollie Mar 2014 #121

Because this website is EATING MY LIFE. sibelian Mar 2014 #271

à bientôt, but not au revoir... RainDog Mar 2014 #124

Ah harrrr sibelian Mar 2014 #272

I'm actually a bit impressed. Oakenshield Mar 2014 #126

Well, what happens in America eventually happens everywhere... sibelian Mar 2014 #273

Please stay RandySF Mar 2014 #128

I can't! sibelian Mar 2014 #274

Beautiful pictures! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2014 #129

Thank you! sibelian Mar 2014 #275

Good Luck to you. bvar22 Mar 2014 #130

Thank you bvar sibelian Mar 2014 #276

What do you want? Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #131

Independence... sibelian Mar 2014 #277

thank you for sharing those beautiful pics. can understand that you have important matters niyad Mar 2014 #132

Bye! blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #133

toodles! sibelian Mar 2014 #236

may Scotland truly become BelgianMadCow Mar 2014 #134

We're more like the North... sibelian Mar 2014 #278

that struck a chord BelgianMadCow Mar 2014 #286

You will be missed, but most definitely your fairy-tale beautiful island needs to be top priority! DesertDiamond Mar 2014 #135

Scotland is not an island. Boudica the Lyoness Mar 2014 #148

Well, we'll be waiting... sibelian Mar 2014 #279

Best of Luck, Sibelian LongTomH Mar 2014 #136

One day I'll research my family. sibelian Mar 2014 #280

By all means, come back and visit once in a while derby378 Mar 2014 #138

Most welcome... sibelian Mar 2014 #281

This Englishman truly wishes Scotland independence. go west young man Mar 2014 #139

Thanks, brother sibelian Mar 2014 #154

Do what ya gotta do. Come back soon and often. Iggo Mar 2014 #140

It shall be so. sibelian Mar 2014 #282

Tell the lads & lasses we said hi, huh? Good luck. =) AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #141

That will take some time. sibelian Mar 2014 #283

Best of everything to you! WillowTree Mar 2014 #142

And to thee Willowtree sibelian Mar 2014 #284

Hey, thanks Sibelian and lovemydog Mar 2014 #143

Thank you! sibelian Mar 2014 #285

Don't forget to paint your face blue for the vote. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2014 #144

... sibelian Mar 2014 #287

That's a shame. Good luck with your political choice. joshcryer Mar 2014 #145

Not too shabby. moondust Mar 2014 #146

... sibelian Mar 2014 #288

Take me with you! Spirochete Mar 2014 #147

I'll smuggle you out in a hot air balloon! sibelian Mar 2014 #292

whoa, those are some breathtaking photos! quinnox Mar 2014 #152

Thanks quinnox sibelian Mar 2014 #293

Sad to see you leave malaise Mar 2014 #163

Sad to leave you, malaise sibelian Mar 2014 #294

REMEMBER… You can post as well there … and should! MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #169

ell, the obtuse are getting less obtuse... sibelian Mar 2014 #295

Take me with you!!! Borchkins Mar 2014 #170

You provide the shipping container... sibelian Mar 2014 #181

Cheers & good life lunasun Mar 2014 #172

To you too lunasun sibelian Mar 2014 #296

Thanks for leaving us with all these 3rd way centrist dino DLC war luv'n corporatist authoritarians! L0oniX Mar 2014 #173

IGNORE THEM ALL. PUT THEM ALL ON YOUR IGNORE LIST. sibelian Mar 2014 #178

Nice Advice.. Jesus Malverde Mar 2014 #187

I soooooo hope Scotland gets her indepence mackerel Mar 2014 #174

Me, too sibelian Mar 2014 #211

I have a good friend live in Glasgow mackerel Mar 2014 #320

wait! Can we come visit you? eShirl Mar 2014 #179

lol sibelian Mar 2014 #297

What a lovely farewell. brer cat Mar 2014 #182

Thank you cat... and... sibelian Mar 2014 #298

Edinburgh trocar Mar 2014 #184

My home... sibelian Mar 2014 #299

"Damn Scots, they ruined Scotland" Willy the Janitor hfojvt Mar 2014 #185

Good thing I'm not a MacDonald! sibelian Mar 2014 #198

but I. OTOH, am a McLane hfojvt Mar 2014 #209

Beautiful Pictures can't wait to travel there one day TNLib Mar 2014 #191

Cheers, TNLib sibelian Mar 2014 #300

Please feel free to return TBF Mar 2014 #192

Wellll, *I* didn't take them sibelian Mar 2014 #301

Oh my gosh, I would love to visit there...please come back soon and best of luck Jefferson23 Mar 2014 #205

We shall see how it goes... sibelian Mar 2014 #302

Best of luck! Jefferson23 Mar 2014 #315

I can't blame you at all, man! Gotta take care of the homefront first, anyone can understand that Ghost in the Machine Mar 2014 #206

Thank you ghost... sibelian Mar 2014 #303

Best of luck to you Aerows Mar 2014 #224

Again, Scotland is not an island. Boudica the Lyoness Mar 2014 #291

The Scandinavian question is complex... sibelian Mar 2014 #304

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #305

Hey library girl! hrmjustin Mar 2014 #306

I decided to answer everyone, as everyone had been so nice. sibelian Mar 2014 #308

I hope Scotland gets its freedom from London Mosaic Mar 2014 #232

May you find your way home... sibelian Mar 2014 #307

Thank you my friend Mosaic Mar 2014 #319

. Renew Deal Mar 2014 #248

... sibelian Mar 2014 #311

I'm hoping to visit your beautiful country in 2015 Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2014 #258

Come to Edinburgh! sibelian Mar 2014 #309

I love Scotland, and ... daggahead Mar 2014 #290

Well, he can fuck off. sibelian Mar 2014 #310

Go cheer for Rangers in the thirteenth subdivision! Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #312

Rangers fans? redqueen Mar 2014 #314

pantpantpant sibelian Mar 2014 #313

It's my island. H2O Man Mar 2014 #317

Please post on occasion. I would love to catch up in Edinburgh and share a pint or 3. adirondacker Mar 2014 #321