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Douglas Carpenter

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18. no! Everyone knows that a war between Russia and America would simply be too costly

Reply to ChisolmTrailDem (Original post)

Tue Mar 18, 2014, 02:30 PM

Mar 2014

It simply is not doable. It is however in the perceived interest of the military industrial complexes of both Russia and the U.S. to ratchet up the sabre raddling rhetoric. Ultimately though even America's most bellicose war hawks know that it would not be possible to deploy enough conventional forces into that region without resorting to a nuclear exchange that would cost hundreds of millions of lives as well as the destruction of both nations and much of the world.

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Serious question: Are we seeing the build-up to another war - perhaps a "World War"? [View all] ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2014 OP

no. next question? unblock Mar 2014 #1

Agreed MNBrewer Mar 2014 #3

Good. Thank you. nt ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2014 #4

no, it's just a part of the realignment. Europe, Japan, North America geek tragedy Mar 2014 #2

Sounds plausible. Hope that's all there is to it. We've got our cable networks already putting ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2014 #5

I read Emmanuel Todd's book "After the Empire: The Breakdown of the American Order". jwirr Mar 2014 #28

That depends on what Putin's longer term plans are. The way he's pissed of a lot of Ukraine they're okaawhatever Mar 2014 #6

McCain and Kristol (and other NeoCons) are suddenly out of the woodwork again, beating war drums. nt ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2014 #7

I don't pay any attention to that. I'm more concerned with what reasonable people are saying. nt okaawhatever Mar 2014 #9

I'm not implying they are reasonable. I'm pointing out that the same cast of characters is ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2014 #19

I don't think this situation is anything like Iraq or Afghanistan. That's why I drown those guys out okaawhatever Mar 2014 #25

In a word: Nnnnnnope. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2014 #8

Not yet -- The next global war should not start until after 2030 FarCenter Mar 2014 #10

Although, note that Putin will never be in a better position to go to war FarCenter Mar 2014 #26

"The US is weakened by having shot its bolt in Iraq and Afghanistan" EX500rider Mar 2014 #35

A lot of the latest gear is in Afghanistan with no way out. FarCenter Mar 2014 #40

No not even close AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #43

But then there was 1918 to 1937, '39, 0r 42 depending on how you figure HereSince1628 Mar 2014 #29

1914 to 1949 is more or less one continuous war FarCenter Mar 2014 #38

I suppose that's arguable HereSince1628 Mar 2014 #41

If you watched Rachel Maddows show you bigdarryl Mar 2014 #11

Exactly, it's about oil and gas. I catch Rachel when I can. I will go see what I can dig up. nt ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2014 #17

Not until resouce shortages make military powers desperate seveneyes Mar 2014 #12

Kiev isn't an "enemy state" to Russia--they would most likely want to have TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #13

No. Not even close. nt Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #14

It's always a danger ucrdem Mar 2014 #15

There is the very real potential nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #16

no! Everyone knows that a war between Russia and America would simply be too costly Douglas Carpenter Mar 2014 #18

Anyone over a certain age HockeyMom Mar 2014 #22

Makes sense. Thank you. nt ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2014 #24

Provided that Putin only grabs non-EU and non-NATO countries there will be no war. Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #20

Putin is being irrational Gman Mar 2014 #21

A crummy economy that is blamed on someone else or unfairness might be a path to war HereSince1628 Mar 2014 #33

Very true Gman Mar 2014 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author CJCRANE Mar 2014 #23

Nope. We aren't going to war over the Crimea. nt Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #27

Undeniably yes CFLDem Mar 2014 #30

Over to you, Secretary of State Bosonic Mar 2014 #31

No - Russia doesn't have that kind of military power (I am assuming a non-nuclear war.) nt hack89 Mar 2014 #32

I don't think so because it doesn't benefit the big corporations... ananda Mar 2014 #34

In the game of economic and musical chairs, such wars are perhaps inevitable. Orsino Mar 2014 #37

Not World War III, no. AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #39

No, not at this time. Rex Mar 2014 #42

FFS malaise Mar 2014 #44

Sorry, I lost interest after the "nod" to ProSense. 1000words Mar 2014 #45

I Hope Not. I have Plenty of Debt to Pay Off Still! fascisthunter Mar 2014 #46