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hack89

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70. I have never said that employment rate is my criteria for judging the two

Tue Mar 18, 2014, 03:39 PM

Mar 2014

common sense says it cannot be. Once again, VT has a tiny non-diverse economy where the largest contributor to GSP is state spending. It has an aging declining population and no manufacturing base to speak of (IBM represents 25% of all manufacturing jobs). It has no urban centers with concentrated poverty. It lags it's neighbors in productivity and income. Comparing Texas to VT is meaningless. My only point.

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Explain this wingnuts; VT rated as one of the worst states to do business in: Unemployment 4% [View all] cali Mar 2014 OP

Good Question kracer20 Mar 2014 #1

Sure it is n2doc Mar 2014 #2

The American definition for "Business..." MrScorpio Mar 2014 #3

Pennsyvania's state house will only pass 'business friendly' legislation. The result: DebJ Mar 2014 #4

Interesting. No industry except maple syrup? Atman Mar 2014 #5

Artisans too. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2014 #13

No kidding! Fantastic arts scene. Atman Mar 2014 #23

Vermont also has a thriving microbrewery industry. Earth_First Mar 2014 #15

Sounds a lot like Colorado except we're bigger and have a higher population mountain grammy Mar 2014 #16

That 4% was before IBM's layoffs hack89 Mar 2014 #6

Vermont has a tiny manufacturing base, so it's not going to make much of a difference cali Mar 2014 #9

You are trying to compare a tiny economy to the world's 14th largest hack89 Mar 2014 #10

no I'm not. That wasn't the obvious point of the OP, hon. cali Mar 2014 #12

Here are the economic forecasts for both states - I will let the facts speak for themselves hack89 Mar 2014 #17

The facts do speak for themselves, dear: cali Mar 2014 #24

Can't argue with all caps logic. You win. hack89 Mar 2014 #26

you were the one that started out rude. Oh, and only one sentence was in caps cali Mar 2014 #27

Disagreeing with you is not rude hack89 Mar 2014 #29

You didn't just disagree with me. cali Mar 2014 #30

Then pull the quotes out of my post - show me anything that hints of a personal attack. hack89 Mar 2014 #32

He really wasn't joeglow3 Mar 2014 #71

I don't understand what *fact* you're disagreeing with in the post you're responding to. nt valerief Mar 2014 #34

The notion that VT's economy is actually doing that well hack89 Mar 2014 #35

So the average Texan is doing better than the average Vermonter? Or the average valerief Mar 2014 #38

California would like to remind you that it exists. jeff47 Mar 2014 #60

I am not saying Texas has the model economy hack89 Mar 2014 #65

I'm using those same metrics. jeff47 Mar 2014 #76

California has a huge diverse economy and a steady influx of new labor hack89 Mar 2014 #84

Texas has been proclaimed the state of the future NewJeffCT Mar 2014 #40

I agree to a certain degree hack89 Mar 2014 #44

you are just wrong. cali Mar 2014 #48

"RI (my state) is even worse." Perhaps you should read what I actually wrote? hack89 Mar 2014 #49

CT's unemployment rate is 7.2%, almost twice as high as Vermont's cali Mar 2014 #53

They also have better economies and higher per capita income. hack89 Mar 2014 #55

you are determined to twist the gist of my op. cali Mar 2014 #67

So employment rates are the only meaningful economic indicator? hack89 Mar 2014 #69

North Dakota, Nebraska, South Dakota and Utah all have lower unemployment rates than VT hack89 Mar 2014 #57

wow. you mean out of 50 states, there are 4 states with lower unemployment cali Mar 2014 #66

So employment rates by themselves tell us nothing about the health of an economy? hack89 Mar 2014 #68

Hack89, I have to agree with cali that you were the first to get a little 'edgy'. pangaia Mar 2014 #85

Pull out the quotes then. I asked him and he refused hack89 Mar 2014 #86

Now that you mention it, I do recall those claims being made several years ago. Rock on VT! tofuandbeer Mar 2014 #78

Forecasts are not facts. They are educated guesses. jeff47 Mar 2014 #59

I have never said that employment rate is my criteria for judging the two hack89 Mar 2014 #70

Except all those factors should result in a high unemployment rate. jeff47 Mar 2014 #75

A constrained labor force would keep unemployment low hack89 Mar 2014 #87

+1 toby jo Mar 2014 #21

that bright and shiny Texas future cali Mar 2014 #14

You seem to like Texas' union-busting, low income, plutocratic economy brentspeak Mar 2014 #42

No - there is a reason I live in a strong pro-union state hack89 Mar 2014 #46

I don't think there is any good comparison to Texas. Atman Mar 2014 #47

I would pick VT over Texas as a place to live and raise a family in a heart beat. hack89 Mar 2014 #50

Part of what makes NE a good place to work... Atman Mar 2014 #52

Not just IBM... freebrew Mar 2014 #11

4% unemployment means not enough desperation... Pholus Mar 2014 #7

Just another inconvenient truth. marble falls Mar 2014 #8

I think Vermont put the rumor out to the grifters out. They value their workers and environment. n kelliekat44 Mar 2014 #18

I suspect this is an apples and oranges thing... Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #19

look, comparing VT and TX was hardly the thrust of what I posted cali Mar 2014 #28

You are comparing the unemployment rate and economic climate of Vermont to other states... Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #61

If your claims were true, then why is VT doing better than NH? jeff47 Mar 2014 #77

Probably because a state's poitical leaning has virtually nothing to do with it. nt Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #80

So, the VT DiverDave Mar 2014 #82

Which ProSense Mar 2014 #36

^^^ +1000 Atman Mar 2014 #39

So,...Texas takes in all the idiots and assholes who lost their licence elsewhere. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2014 #45

I'm sure there is a connection, though I suspect some of that is sheer size. nt Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #62

Congratulations on living in a civilized part of America... First Speaker Mar 2014 #20

Vermont is Bad For Businesses (screwing the workers)... dionysus Mar 2014 #22

Business does not want a 4% unemployment rate . . . Brigid Mar 2014 #25

This is actually a good place for business salib Mar 2014 #31

Thanks for a nice comment erronis Mar 2014 #72

IIRC, Didn't Greenspan Say That It Was His Job.. Liberal_Dog Mar 2014 #33

Back to the future Trust Buster Mar 2014 #37

It's the CNBC mindset where the price of gas falling at the pump is BAD news. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2014 #41

Vermont also just voted in a state banking system Atman Mar 2014 #43

Take Back Verrmernt! adirondacker Mar 2014 #51

Maine's idiot governor naturallyselected Mar 2014 #54

Maine's unemployment rate is now 6.2 percent. not at all bad but not cali Mar 2014 #56

Agreed naturallyselected Mar 2014 #58

reverse image geretogo Mar 2014 #63

Well, Tom Delay once said that EC Mar 2014 #64

The most explosive growth, the Lowest Unemployment,... bvar22 Mar 2014 #73

Glad to be the 100th K&R!!! DeSwiss Mar 2014 #74

Those ratings are bullshit anyway jmowreader Mar 2014 #79

K&R ReRe Mar 2014 #81

I wonder of Vermont could be a model for upstate NY, with its economic depression nikto Mar 2014 #83