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12. The NSA can gather all the data it wants but it has to be able to pick out the important info ....
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 03:22 PM
Mar 2014

from all the noise.

Most important and possibly quite likely is that the information gathered is used to target those who exercise their right to peaceful free speech and speak out against our government. Those who assemble peacefully to protest certain government policies could be subjected to intense scrutiny without good reason.

Freedom of the press is essential to our form of democracy. In the wrong hands surveillance data could enable the government to find our a reporter's sources and silence them. Gathering data on a newspaper's editors could uncover personal details of their lives that could be used to prevent them from publishing stories that would embarrass those in power.

Gathering files on all the people we elect to represent us might enable a powerful few to gain control over Congress or even our President. There are few saints in public life who have absolutely nothing to hide.

Of course meta data might be used to stop terror plots. Unfortunately the well trained terrorist will be aware of our data gathering abilities and will find ways to bypass it.

If you suspect this could never happen I suggest that you do some reading about the Nixon Presidency and also J. Edgar Hoover's career.

Information is power and power corrupts. Without proper oversight and regulation, the NSA data gathering ability could enable a select few to gain power over our nation and we might not even realize it. In fact this may have already happened.

The problem is how do you insure that the data is used properly and not abused to gain power? I really have no idea of how this can be accomplished.

This isn't a after thought to that other thread is it? William769 Mar 2014 #1
it wasn't til you mentioned it xchrom Mar 2014 #22
Yeah but it's just metadata so it's no big deal. Autumn Mar 2014 #2
You know how they were convinced that messages were being sent back and forth through gaming Baitball Blogger Mar 2014 #3
Swallow a "Nationís Telephone Network Whole" snooper2 Mar 2014 #4
Well if the to (sic) geographical locations are identical then there no need for the phone hootinholler Mar 2014 #7
Swallowing a 'Telephone Network Whole' might lead to severe indigestion. lumpy Mar 2014 #30
Bart Gellman is a commie putinista poopiehead Luminous Animal Mar 2014 #5
Why is Gandalf playing an electric guitar? Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #9
The NSA needs to spend more on illustrators. Luminous Animal Mar 2014 #11
I know, right? Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #23
K & R !!! WillyT Mar 2014 #6
Okay, it's scary but sort of sexy at the same time. Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #8
I'm just glad I'm not the only one. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #25
To paraphrase Oscar Wilde, "We are all in the gutter..." Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #27
Link to the WaPo article Luminous Animal Mar 2014 #10
The NSA can gather all the data it wants but it has to be able to pick out the important info .... spin Mar 2014 #12
either way it's a win for them Locrian Mar 2014 #18
If you are right and I suspect you are ... spin Mar 2014 #31
conspiratorial, are we? erronis Mar 2014 #33
I think you pretty much nailed it Locrian Mar 2014 #34
Sorry Amigo Savannahmann Mar 2014 #13
Please notice that this is UNCLASSIFIED. MineralMan Mar 2014 #14
Duh. Kind of hard to miss that. Autumn Mar 2014 #17
Yes, it is, isn't it. MineralMan Mar 2014 #19
No evidence. Autumn Mar 2014 #20
OK. MineralMan Mar 2014 #21
Then this Guardian article confuses me. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #26
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong gives it a superficial appearance of being right. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #15
I'm going to prank call people in Iran and Syria just to confuse the NSA. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #16
Yottabite Octafish Mar 2014 #24
I hope all the people who tried to spin the crap that the NSA does not have time to listen to calls djean111 Mar 2014 #28
That pretty much nails the spin. Pholus Mar 2014 #29
I actually nailed that spin months ago, but I may as well have been talking in tongues. djean111 Mar 2014 #32
I was hoping for an administration of good listeners, but this is becoming ridiculous... adirondacker Mar 2014 #35
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