General Discussion

thesquanderer

(12,877 posts)

92. You are not *required* to stay in a grandfathered plan.

Tue Mar 18, 2014, 04:53 PM

Mar 2014

As I understand it, for individual insurance purchasers (which it sounds like you are), grandfathering allows--but does not require--you to stay with a pre-ACA plan that you already have, if you like it better than getting a new ACA plan. Most people are probably better off with an ACA plan, but grandfathering is there for the rare exception, or for people who are just scared by the idea of changing to something new. I think you should definitely check into the ACA plans in your state right away and see what your options really are.

Obamacare is not forcing your old insurance company to deny you anything... they would have denied you the same thing before Obamacare existed. After all, grandfather means it's the same plan it was before Obamacare. But at least in theory, Obamacare gives you new, better options that you didn't have before. It's worth trying to find them.

Cannot edit, recommend, or reply in locked discussions

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

712 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] WilliamPitt Mar 2014 OP

Hall-of-Fame Bullshit artist... truebrit71 Mar 2014 #1

I long for a time machine. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #3

My wife is a breast cancer survivor... truebrit71 Mar 2014 #11

I'm a cancer patient---without ACA I would have NO insurance wordpix Mar 2014 #546

I hope your recovery is 100% successful... truebrit71 Mar 2014 #550

Wm Pitt---pls. inform your Congressional rep about this wordpix Mar 2014 #554

Sounds like good advice, hopefully that may help Will's wife. Jefferson23 Mar 2014 #565

This is great advice Dorian Gray Mar 2014 #709

My copay (medicare part d) for my MS med is 1650 a month Mojorabbit Mar 2014 #23

For which medication? Just curious. TrollBuster9090 Mar 2014 #204

Aubagio. I was in the experimental trial for several years and then the FDA approved it Mojorabbit Mar 2014 #220

I looked up Aubagio to help out Pitt steve2470 Mar 2014 #222

But I think she is saying she could afford it for a while, truedelphi Mar 2014 #358

But how much does it actually "cost" to make the drug? Pharaoh Mar 2014 #538

excellent point nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #541

While drugs are too high, it's not like you do a google search and make it in the kitchen. Hoyt Mar 2014 #579

Sorry but I don't buy all that shit Pharaoh Mar 2014 #654

Then, why don't a couple of unemployed PhDs down the street make them and sell at half the price. Hoyt Mar 2014 #658

They would be arrested. Pharaoh Mar 2014 #659

but you can get a generic in Canada for about 3 bucks. Pharaoh Mar 2014 #660

So, it is more difficult than you suggest. Like I said, Hoyt Mar 2014 #661

Medicare part d was the prelude to heritage care Doctor_J Mar 2014 #389

Definitely better before 2006- no drug coverage, elderly doing without, cutting pills in thirds, etc Hoyt Mar 2014 #656

cannabinoids show promise for MS wordpix Mar 2014 #548

I knew we were screwed Mnpaul Mar 2014 #172

but it's all Lieberman's fault Doctor_J Mar 2014 #392

The National Health system in the UK has a formulary. pnwmom Mar 2014 #590

On the NHS if you need meds, you get meds. truebrit71 Mar 2014 #591

You get meds if they're listed as available on the formulary. pnwmom Mar 2014 #592

I have two elderly parents that use the NHS all the time. truebrit71 Mar 2014 #595

That's because the doctors are choosing medicines off the formulary. pnwmom Mar 2014 #596

Exactly OwnedByCats Mar 2014 #608

I've been told otherwise by more than one Brit. HuckleB Mar 2014 #609

Only if it's been approved by NICE Spider Jerusalem Mar 2014 #682

Anger IS a gift, my dear Will, and one you use most effectively. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2014 #2

"fuck you mr president you piece of shit used car salesman" is an "excellent rant"? uppityperson Mar 2014 #207

And if I did? CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2014 #208

If you did, it makes me sad to see 2 long term duers like you and he think that is ok uppityperson Mar 2014 #235

I regret that you're sad. But I do stand with Will on this topic. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2014 #238

I wish we'd gotten single payer, but can not understand calling him that. Or putting all the blame uppityperson Mar 2014 #240

Miserable fucking crap shoot dealing with Insurance vultures. JEB Mar 2014 #283

NH does not offer many options for insurance magical thyme Mar 2014 #301

Look. Obama was so pathetic on this issue that even Jon Stewart called him out. truedelphi Mar 2014 #369

So you agree President Obama is a "piece of shit used-car salesman" deserving "fuck you" on DU? uppityperson Mar 2014 #370

Thoe were not my words, truedelphi Mar 2014 #379

My apologies, I edited to remove the unneeded snark. Yes, there are a hell of a lot of problems, uppityperson Mar 2014 #382

because greater of two evils hfojvt Mar 2014 #559

They should have pushed for single payer with all their might. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #503

+ 1 red dog 1 Mar 2014 #706

Thanks, red dog 1. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #708

No, the insurance companies are not legalized gambling, they're mass murderers for profit. Scuba Mar 2014 #517

Sorry for your situation and sorry that you feel that way about the President. But the blame goes kelliekat44 Mar 2014 #532

Hi, did you mean to reply to Will? uppityperson Mar 2014 #569

Pitt has done that before brush Mar 2014 #476

"Too subtle for Pitt.." that's about it. Went right over his head which was Cha Mar 2014 #479

nothing was missed, Pitt is just playing to a certain crowd looking to be popular JI7 Mar 2014 #480

Guess it's the Obama haters. nt brush Mar 2014 #481

Yep and yep! Kahuna Mar 2014 #498

Damn him for "playing" at having a real life problem. quakerboy Mar 2014 #613

He'd be okay Jakes Progress Mar 2014 #616

It's an "excellent rant" to those who don't care that his rage is misplaced.. it would be a Cha Mar 2014 #455

THIS sobenji Mar 2014 #525

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #558

A-fucking-men! Well said! truebrit71 Mar 2014 #564

it was a great post. kath Mar 2014 #582

The apologists can't handle the truth I guess... truebrit71 Mar 2014 #585

This quakerboy Mar 2014 #615

I too was amazed that it was hidden... truebrit71 Mar 2014 #618

Thank You, sobenji! Cha Mar 2014 #635

Oh My, that post that was hidden addressed to you, Cha Mar 2014 #638

Well said! +100 Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #711

No. How could those bastards do that? Autumn Mar 2014 #4

Heh. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #8

Those mother fuckers covered all the bases didn't they. Autumn Mar 2014 #10

I'm pretty sure that is not true. Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #53

Excellent advice. QuestForSense Mar 2014 #96

It's super advice but, dammit, crim son Mar 2014 #649

''with a polite but insistent appeal that this drug be covered.'' Whisp Mar 2014 #115

" not once have I ever failed to eventually get coverage " Lex Mar 2014 #127

I meant the polite part ain't gonna happen. Whisp Mar 2014 #132

Oh, I see. Yeah, probably. Lex Mar 2014 #143

Ranting on the DU about how awful Obama is won't change anything ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2014 #170

It's not like Obama is happy Lex Mar 2014 #174

Some think he is. They truly believe it makes him happy that people suffer Whisp Mar 2014 #279

Unless, of course, ohheckyeah Mar 2014 #456

Great catch!...nt Jesus Malverde Mar 2014 #486

it's already gotten him some sound advice magical thyme Mar 2014 #307

True enough, but I think he could have gotten the same without screaming ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2014 #633

I agree he could have gotten it without the screaming magical thyme Mar 2014 #637

we should not have to spend our lives begging insurance companies to Doctor_J Mar 2014 #395

what I think is moronic is Whisp Mar 2014 #403

And cruel. woo me with science Mar 2014 #407

Cruel ctsnowman Mar 2014 #508

You only think that ohheckyeah Mar 2014 #458

"do what they are supposed to do." NCTraveler Mar 2014 #526

We got our annual benefits pitch from the insurance rep Doctor_J Mar 2014 #529

"It has nothing to do with keeping me healthy." NCTraveler Mar 2014 #533

While your advice is good advice, considering the system we have, it is truly sad that sick people sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #213

I'm one of the more pro-free market, pro-capitalism DUers Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #236

Thank you! I support the free Market also, but not when it is abused, and imo, HC should sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #449

insurance companies will when forced cover what is in the contract questionseverything Mar 2014 #250

On three occasions my insurer has denied coverage for a drug for a family member. Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #253

the squeaking wheel definitely gets the grease steve2470 Mar 2014 #257

are you saying the ins paid for meds not covered in contract? questionseverything Mar 2014 #263

My policies (and I believe most policies) have "non-formulary exception" provisions Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #273

with that language he probably has a case questionseverything Mar 2014 #280

Yeah, they are (deliberately, I think) vague about coverage prior to you taking out the policy. Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #344

yes some drug companies have good plans to help questionseverything Mar 2014 #575

I have never had an insurance company refuse to provide the formulary Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #604

what i posted is the formulary questionseverything Mar 2014 #606

From the first two pages of the formulary at the link you posted: Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #617

if you have been reading what will has written questionseverything Mar 2014 #620

I have won plenty of appeals for things which were not in the language of the contract. Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #624

extra ordinary claims require proof questionseverything Mar 2014 #640

Half the people in this thread defending the ACA Aerows Mar 2014 #646

Right. Like I am going to post my medical documentation on the internet. Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #648

ok since you took the time for all that i will try and address it questionseverything Mar 2014 #657

All three are outside the language of the policy - Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #663

maybe this exchange will help you understand questionseverything Mar 2014 #697

Yes. The insurance company paid for meds not in the contract. Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #702

Connecticut??? Huh. bullsnarfle Mar 2014 #540

agree about going to state insurance agency---also go to your Congresscritters wordpix Mar 2014 #557

You are not *required* to stay in a grandfathered plan. thesquanderer Mar 2014 #92

Will, you have been grossly misinformed by your friend and ally. pnwmom Mar 2014 #324

Yes, the main thing to bear in mind is that there is no premium subsidy with an off-exchange plan. Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #349

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #686

I repeat: I refuse to die until I have first danced on the mass grave of for profit health Zorra Mar 2014 #5

Can i join you in waiting for that dance truedelphi Mar 2014 #360

Me too. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #505

Me three. Brigid Mar 2014 #571

Unfortunately I won't outlive Heritage Care Doctor_J Mar 2014 #530

This might help a little... C_U_L8R Mar 2014 #6

More people need to be made aware that this can happen! This needs to go viral, because loudsue Mar 2014 #7

You didnt check to see if an ongoing medication was covered before you signed up? Egnever Mar 2014 #9

Blaming the victim is worse than foolish, bvar22 Mar 2014 #47

LOL Egnever Mar 2014 #74

ok i'll bite questionseverything Mar 2014 #234

I looked on that pdf file and can't find certolizumab pegol yet nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #245

It's called a formulary and every insurance company has them. It is sinkingfeeling Mar 2014 #544

yes it is a formulary, that was the point questionseverything Mar 2014 #583

We need more consumer protection to protect us from insurance companies LiberalEsto Mar 2014 #587

Then why can anybody go online and get a copy of the specialty drugs? sinkingfeeling Mar 2014 #602

no where in that link does it say what is covered questionseverything Mar 2014 #605

I can't explain it to you. It's how all drug coverage insurance works. Not all drugs sinkingfeeling Mar 2014 #607

people were saying will was wrong for not checking the formulary questionseverything Mar 2014 #610

The online link for some specialty drugs Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #619

This message was self-deleted by its author REP Mar 2014 #632

That is not correct. Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #614

I was able to make a drug list on the wesite - of any and all level drugs - Control-Z Mar 2014 #644

"Being a victim is beyond foolish" Hissyspit Mar 2014 #266

Every single insurance company should be regarded JEB Mar 2014 #334

Could you please tell me what medications I'm going to on Boudica the Lyoness Mar 2014 #446

You are dead wrong. There may be alternative medications that work as well. bluestate10 Mar 2014 #119

Excuse me, Dr. Bluestate. lapislzi Mar 2014 #262

"If a patient insists on a particular medication when other therapies will work" and there is the uppityperson Mar 2014 #352

"Everyone who has ever been deceived by an insurance company is a fool!" Zorra Mar 2014 #94

There was no deception Egnever Mar 2014 #99

Maybe YOU have the knowlege and skills to do all of that, bvar22 Mar 2014 #126

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #145

Yeah, I know. bvar22 Mar 2014 #258

Pretty well sums up my experience as well. JEB Mar 2014 #296

A master obfuscater. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #506

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #687

Insurance companies have the art of deception down through omission, Zorra Mar 2014 #144

Not sure what any of that has to do with checking the formulary before you purchase a plan Egnever Mar 2014 #156

As I understand it, no insurance company is required to pay for a medication that hasn't been proven TrollBuster9090 Mar 2014 #224

I was not permitted access to the formulary before I purchased my plan. nt Zorra Mar 2014 #284

Thank you for relating the realities of the situation. truedelphi Mar 2014 #497

You touched on something important.. freebrew Mar 2014 #555

Yeah, "the insurance company".. maybe pitt should have been "fuck" "fuck" "fuck" "fuck" "fuck" Cha Mar 2014 #180

WTF?! Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #118

The poster made a valid observation. nt bluestate10 Mar 2014 #124

stating somebody was a fool for not reviewing the formulary before signing up magical thyme Mar 2014 #318

Third Way Free Marketeers value profit over human well being, so they Zorra Mar 2014 #316

Wow, I did not see that happen. PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #322

There is not enough information posted on the providers' websites to garner this information. MoonchildCA Mar 2014 #462

What if my medicine isn't on a plan's formulary? itsrobert Mar 2014 #12

I don't think we are getting all the details and facts here... Whisp Mar 2014 #13

Indeed. He's giving up on a new plan because some insurance adjuster advised him not to bother itsrobert Mar 2014 #17

If the nation's citizenry had been offered real health care reform and not truedelphi Mar 2014 #385

Because he is Will Pitt theboss Mar 2014 #577

I agree, why would an Obamacare plan treestar Mar 2014 #79

They darn sure do. Medicare has no out-of-pocket cap, for example. Hoyt Mar 2014 #90

The accusation does sound somewhat suspicious and was delivered emotionally. bluestate10 Mar 2014 #130

Someone's sort of stuck on permanent anger at this point. No, we don't have all the facts. Hekate Mar 2014 #233

Good post... SidDithers Mar 2014 #386

"he signed up for a lifetime of reading the fine print and doing the research" wickerwoman Mar 2014 #477

Lucky you. But in the OP's case, he is a highly articulate professional writer, activist, & teacher Hekate Mar 2014 #483

I am from America wickerwoman Mar 2014 #484

I realized about two years ago that being enraged truedelphi Mar 2014 #496

Appealing the decision doesn't guarantee coverage, just a review, and it can still be denied... Humanist_Activist Mar 2014 #42

Yeah, it also can be approved itsrobert Mar 2014 #51

I'm assuming what the OP meant by a 3 month fight is that they already... Humanist_Activist Mar 2014 #66

I'm assuming nothing itsrobert Mar 2014 #73

The President ends up responsible for all the bad things that happen treestar Mar 2014 #80

Happens all the time in the Miltiary Tricare System itsrobert Mar 2014 #82

They are about a 100 times easier to deal with than say any BCBS TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #683

I don't blame the President personally, this system predates him by about 40 years... Humanist_Activist Mar 2014 #84

Yes. That's about all I got out of the whine. lumpy Mar 2014 #151

Via HHS.gov JoeyT Mar 2014 #49

Later today I'm sending the Koch brothers a letter appealing their decision MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #510

Are prescription drug plans the same in every state? itsrobert Mar 2014 #14

My heart goes out to you and your wife, Will. Baitball Blogger Mar 2014 #15

How do I know if a health plan will cover the medicines I take? itsrobert Mar 2014 #16

Thats nice. bvar22 Mar 2014 #50

What? For profit health care screwing people for profit? progressoid Mar 2014 #18

80% of what people pay is supposed to go toward health care marzipanni Mar 2014 #72

No. progressoid Mar 2014 #114

No. That's two separate issues. Recursion Mar 2014 #444

Two separate issues - same wallet. progressoid Mar 2014 #472

Yes, that's what deductibles are Recursion Mar 2014 #475

Imagine that Jack for Sanders Mar 2014 #19

Yeh, I'm so sure Obama gets a jolly laugh out of peope not getting their medication Whisp Mar 2014 #131

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #20

What's the medication and what is your plan you are on? itsrobert Mar 2014 #21

Blaming the victim - that makes it better. TBF Mar 2014 #38

I'm just asking questions itsrobert Mar 2014 #46

People really aren't that stupid itsrobert - TBF Mar 2014 #55

A better question would be why aren't the formularies standard from one policy to the next. Lars39 Mar 2014 #86

Fuck you, Mr. President, you piece of shit used-car salesman. From my heart and soul, fuck you. one_voice Mar 2014 #22

+1 Wait Wut Mar 2014 #24

Thanks for kicking my thread. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #25

"explain that away, apologist"? WTF. It would seem someone with your ability to use words would uppityperson Mar 2014 #32

The OP's behavior was fucking insulting and wrong. I happen to live in the same state bluestate10 Mar 2014 #146

Thank you for a boots on the ground assessment. I think we'd all like more details to see if there okaawhatever Mar 2014 #373

The raging anger at the President gets in the way even if it isn't Obama's Cha Mar 2014 #165

I feel for your wife Will.. one_voice Mar 2014 #78

Psst. The president didn't write the law. Orsino Mar 2014 #171

Manny, are you saying only pre-existing conditions that have never been exposed to insurance..... marble falls Mar 2014 #523

Manny. LOL. tridim Mar 2014 #531

Seriously, wtf. If that is not alerted on or hidden, is calling Pres Obama that is ok per uppityperson Mar 2014 #29

He hasn't fucked you over. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #30

What does the President have to do with your insurance company's formulary? ProSense Mar 2014 #34

I can see getting angry at an insurance company adjustor treestar Mar 2014 #70

It's a habit of his. Obamacare has absolutely nothing to do with this crisis but Cha Mar 2014 #193

Well, maybe if Obama had TOLD the insurance companies what to do instead of Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2014 #83

Formularies are not determined by the President, and existed before ACA ProSense Mar 2014 #88

True, formularies existed, but that doesn't mean they SHOULD exist Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2014 #93

Well the ProSense Mar 2014 #117

Canada has formularies. The UK has formularies. Single payer doesn't work without them. Recursion Mar 2014 #445

Prescription medications are not covered in Canadian Health Care... SidDithers Mar 2014 #603

EXACTLY!!! I related that fact in an earlier post. My sense is that the OP is bluestate10 Mar 2014 #159

So how would THAT work ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #198

As opposed to having the companies tell HIM what to do? Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2014 #400

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #513

Most importantly Presidents execute the laws and enforce them. Thats why its called the executive .. marble falls Mar 2014 #527

My complaint is not about what Obama's legal powers. It's about Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2014 #586

You are not the only person here making sensible claims and truedelphi Mar 2014 #398

What is sensible about claims and statements like this ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #561

What they are trying to emphasize in a statement like that one, truedelphi Mar 2014 #598

Okay. eom 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #601

Thank you! Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2014 #684

Details.. everything is President Obama's fault when it comes to one Cha Mar 2014 #123

You miss the point of calling him "a used car salesman piece of shit". uppityperson Mar 2014 #35

+1 nt Dreamer Tatum Mar 2014 #43

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #59

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #246

Is he the insurance adjustor? treestar Mar 2014 #69

He handed the proces over to them. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #75

That is a bullshit claim. Congress passed the ACA, the President is doing his best to bluestate10 Mar 2014 #166

Maybe you shouldn't have left MA for "tax free NH?" It's nice up there but you get what you pay MADem Mar 2014 #350

And the President of the United States personally fucked you over? brush Mar 2014 #482

Jury left it 3-3... one_voice Mar 2014 #31

I was wondering what the results were. Autumn Mar 2014 #33

I wasn't the original alerter. one_voice Mar 2014 #122

The jury on your post was 3-3 The Straight Story Mar 2014 #37

Wow... one_voice Mar 2014 #62

I voted to leave (for obvious reasons) The Straight Story Mar 2014 #63

Yeah I agree... one_voice Mar 2014 #81

Incredible. uppityperson Mar 2014 #41

Oh he thinks he can throw any fucking insult he wants against the President .. Cha Mar 2014 #135

ROFL alcibiades_mystery Mar 2014 #368

Hopefully that post and this overall thread will result in some admin attention Number23 Mar 2014 #465

It's the Knee Jerk Obama Syndrome.. and this Cha Mar 2014 #469

jury Left it. Whisp Mar 2014 #136

Thank you. "a little over the top" uppityperson Mar 2014 #142

Well, the pitt fans weren't on this jury.. and he wouldn't know "truth" if it gobsmacked him Cha Mar 2014 #378

I agree. In the past calling the President a "POS" would have been a clear violation. One thing lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #176

Really. Misplaced anger.. but the President is always handy when it comes time Cha Mar 2014 #182

I find your anger misplaced Oilwellian Mar 2014 #209

I'm not Raging at the President for something that isn't his fault. Throwing all kinds of idiotic Cha Mar 2014 #218

Lashing out in this fashion doesn't do any good mythology Mar 2014 #669

Amazing and oh so tolerant AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #267

typical as well to defend that OP Whisp Mar 2014 #362

I don't like Will AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #372

I don't like him either because he tends to *ahem, exaggerate things Whisp Mar 2014 #374

If there is proof AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #377

See post 476. Pitt has went off mistakenly on the President before brush Mar 2014 #485

And before today AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #652

Seems to show a pattern brush Mar 2014 #664

Yeah this sucks. dilby Mar 2014 #26

It's a fucking shark tank. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #27

After all that fighting, we end up with insurance companies NightWatcher Mar 2014 #28

Sometimes you just have to take a pain pill obliviously Mar 2014 #36

At least put in an appeal. Lex Mar 2014 #39

That should be the first course of actions. In fact if a physician says the patient absolutely lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #181

Same here. Every single year I print out my original letter detailing what the generic does to me... Hekate Mar 2014 #247

Getting the Website UP, and getting people Signed Up was the EASY part. bvar22 Mar 2014 #40

"The Affordable care Act provides NO Watch Dog Agency" Aerows Mar 2014 #621

I'd feel angry too. But was she on this med before, and are there any alternatives? Hoyt Mar 2014 #44

My partner's MS drug is covered under the state employee plan in NC Lex Mar 2014 #97

I think there is a way with this one. At least I hope. Sorry they are going through this. Hoyt Mar 2014 #105

He shouldn't have to "appeal" to get her medicine!!!! Doctor_J Mar 2014 #551

"Shouldn't have to" is a different issue altogether. nt Lex Mar 2014 #553

A lot of medicines do essentially the same thing theboss Mar 2014 #580

I suspect that cheaper alternatives were offered and rejected. Some alternatives, bluestate10 Mar 2014 #175

If the DOCTOR agrees that the drug is needed, the insurance companies will go with the doctor. MADem Mar 2014 #361

I agree, something is missing. I'm not sure insurance companies always go with docs, especially Hoyt Mar 2014 #363

If the doctor puts his or her foot down, the insurance companies will fold. MADem Mar 2014 #375

I get it. Most folks here would really get po'd if faced with formularies in Canada, England, etc. Hoyt Mar 2014 #387

We needed (and asked for) a public service. They gave us a consumer product. 1000words Mar 2014 #45

Single Payer isn't going to happen until republicans are either proven completely bluestate10 Mar 2014 #177

Crumbs 1000words Mar 2014 #189

Your last sentence is a collection of words that have no logical basis. bluestate10 Mar 2014 #206

One thing is dead certain.. sendero Mar 2014 #281

It wasn't The Republicans who stopped the Public Option. bvar22 Mar 2014 #264

You may as well be speaking with tongues. djean111 Mar 2014 #501

Capitalism has to go - TBF Mar 2014 #48

Pay us or DIEEEE!!!11!! PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #106

This article might be of help? Lex Mar 2014 #52

You should not call people pieces of shit. bravenak Mar 2014 #54

I think Will's account has been hacked. There is no other explanation. nt tridim Mar 2014 #61

Nope. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #64

Then it's just the gift of anger. tridim Mar 2014 #67

And he should not be angry when his wife's life is at stake. zeemike Mar 2014 #183

He is angry ALL THE TIME, at Obama. nt tridim Mar 2014 #512

And you are hyperbolic ALL THE TIME. nt zeemike Mar 2014 #514

Genius response in this shit thread. tridim Mar 2014 #515

Sometimes being a mirror is all you can do. zeemike Mar 2014 #516

I am feeling a bit scared for him if that is him. bravenak Mar 2014 #76

I hope it's resolved. CJCRANE Mar 2014 #120

I think we can figure out a way if he is interested. bravenak Mar 2014 #129

That's a great idea. Wait Wut Mar 2014 #140

Good idea. bravenak Mar 2014 #148

Not me.. I recognize his raging knee jerk reaction for Pres Obama.. Cha Mar 2014 #225

But, i bet we could help him if he wants our help. bravenak Mar 2014 #268

Yes, bravenak.. I believe this poster said it best.. Cha Mar 2014 #282

He should take the advice on this and rail about another issue. bravenak Mar 2014 #292

Well he did this one "piece of shit used car salesman" Hidden and will wouldn't know "the truth" if Cha Mar 2014 #304

Open enrollement does not end until the 31st, look for a new plan Motown_Johnny Mar 2014 #56

It's New Hampshire. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #68

But you said in a post above that NH has ten options, have you tried the other nine? sheshe2 Mar 2014 #100

Since health-care costs can't be deducted from taxes unless you run up an enormous bill, bluestate10 Mar 2014 #184

First, edit your OP. This is a state issue Motown_Johnny Mar 2014 #265

We have Anthem and use eScripts as their mail order pharmacy Purrfessor Mar 2014 #502

Have you gone to the National Multiple Sclerosis Society web site? JoePhilly Mar 2014 #57

I found this on their website as well steve2470 Mar 2014 #205

Kudos for you too! DebJ Mar 2014 #396

Cool! Nice to see some real assistance being offered! DebJ Mar 2014 #394

Misplaced anger is the downfall of many great people. nt tridim Mar 2014 #58

Misplaced loyalty, too. 1000words Mar 2014 #77

Even moreso. n/t Aerows Mar 2014 #622

aca is not about health care, it is about health insurance companies health care may or may not be msongs Mar 2014 #60

So it was covered before, and now isn't? treestar Mar 2014 #65

You're missing the point. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #71

+1 ChazII Mar 2014 #101

I you feel there are no alternatives, or your physician's authorization cannot remedy it, then start lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #185

She asked you a simple question. WAS the drug covered by you plan before bluestate10 Mar 2014 #196

Your agent falsely told you a non-exchange insurer may deny someone for preexisting conditions. pnwmom Mar 2014 #435

Are other MS medications covered? theboss Mar 2014 #578

that is the problem with using the existing insurance companies dembotoz Mar 2014 #85

A long shot and possibly illegal Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2014 #87

Just use the prescription that the U.S. doctor wrote, and have it filled by a reliable pharmacy in lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #190

Or go for a drive. It's not like he's all that far from the border. MADem Mar 2014 #364

Medication from Canada Aerows Mar 2014 #623

One argument that has been used is that we are subsidizing the other countries costs for the drugs, lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #626

It's a bullshit argument Aerows Mar 2014 #628

Regardless a lot of the problem is Congress lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #666

No arguments from me Aerows Mar 2014 #667

So should I self-delete? lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #672

I was just teasing Aerows Mar 2014 #673

I didn't take you seriously, though I did repost the same response, just in case lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #675

Seriously, I really didn't mean anything by it Aerows Mar 2014 #677

I know. LOL lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #678

You never know Aerows Mar 2014 #680

Regardless, a lot of the problem is Congress lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #674

A lot of the problem Aerows Mar 2014 #676

Does RomneyCare have the same problem in Mass? Common Sense Party Mar 2014 #89

The OP lives in New Hampshire. Until LePage took over in Maine, NH was the bluestate10 Mar 2014 #202

The plan in MA is very good. I've got friends and family with complex medical issues and they MADem Mar 2014 #365

calm down Will, have a stiff drink. nt dionysus Mar 2014 #91

If only we could get them Mr.Bill Mar 2014 #109

yeah it's probably out of network. dionysus Mar 2014 #199

If there is any research or other assitance any of us could provide, please ask no matter Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #95

Did anyone expect insurance companies to allow their profits to be fucked with? Auggie Mar 2014 #98

I cerntainly didn't. dilby Mar 2014 #108

I hope you're able to resolve this, Will. CJCRANE Mar 2014 #102

This message was self-deleted by its author nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #103

New Jersey? rudolph the red Mar 2014 #178

You are right, my mistake, he should call his delegation from Massachusetts. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #179

And I was right. Will lives in New Jersey. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #329

The OP lives in New Hampshire. rudolph the red Mar 2014 #338

My apologies, he should still contact his delegation nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #342

Agreed rudolph the red Mar 2014 #346

true.. but no "mainstream" candidate for President in the last 30 years would dare disobey Douglas Carpenter Mar 2014 #104

I'm so sorry, Will. LiberalAndProud Mar 2014 #107

It's these kind of inexcusable problems with the ACA seveneyes Mar 2014 #110

It's simply not true that nobody read the health care bill before it was passed. cheapdate Mar 2014 #423

The most basic...letting a doctor decide which medicine, not an insurance company seveneyes Mar 2014 #504

As has been pointed out by others on this thread, cheapdate Mar 2014 #665

It isn't what was promised, we were lied to, and people are suffering for it. Skip Intro Mar 2014 #111

No one "lied" about the problem in the OP. ProSense Mar 2014 #128

The President's personal choice is probably single payer. Lex Mar 2014 #153

no it wasn't Doctor_J Mar 2014 #419

Sure Lex Mar 2014 #420

In 2008, Camnpaign Obama said that he preferred Single Payer, bvar22 Mar 2014 #581

Oh please. Skip Intro Mar 2014 #274

What ProSense Mar 2014 #327

It's all a parsing and spin game with you, Prosense. Skip Intro Mar 2014 #343

This thread isn't about facts. ProSense Mar 2014 #351

Little here is about facts when those facts "hurt" Obama. Skip Intro Mar 2014 #353

It has become so very obvious over the years. Rex Mar 2014 #696

Good news! No matter how bad they fuck you, thanks to Obama you still have to buy it. nt Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #112

I don't need expensive medication, but sometimes I get rejected for a maintenance medication bluestate10 Mar 2014 #113

Quick question Aerows Mar 2014 #625

While you are at it you should fuck the 5,000,000 who now have insurance & didn't before. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2014 #116

Having insurance is not the same as having healthcare. dilby Mar 2014 #121

Or... Wait Wut Mar 2014 #137

Thanks for your post. Number23 Mar 2014 #467

True. But Obama made affordable insurance the law of the land. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2014 #139

Single Payer would have been better. dilby Mar 2014 #152

I bet the President would have definitely preferred single payer, but Lex Mar 2014 #154

Well now it never will. dilby Mar 2014 #158

"Healthcare tax" phrasing is Republican framing of the issues. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2014 #162

No, this mediocre ACA is a step on the road to eventual single payer once Lex Mar 2014 #163

Nope, the ACA makes it more likely jeff47 Mar 2014 #439

Of course, but too many scared Dem congresspeople would have voted it down. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2014 #160

+100. n/t Skip Intro Mar 2014 #366

When those five million go to use the insurance, then truedelphi Mar 2014 #380

Not true and you know it brush Mar 2014 #488

I get it. Insurance is not health care. But they will get more care than they got before. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2014 #499

Oh hell! I'm so sorry, Will. n/t Duval Mar 2014 #125

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #133

You live in MA right? boston bean Mar 2014 #134

He moved to tax free NH, there are fewer options up there. nt MADem Mar 2014 #384

WRP, if it were Duval Mar 2014 #138

Just what mankind needs, more hate. That will sure come in handy in obtaining pills for Mrs.Pitt. lumpy Mar 2014 #192

I have had many a fight with Anthem about non-approved medication naturallyselected Mar 2014 #141

fu kardonb Mar 2014 #147

What would have been different meanit Mar 2014 #187

Let me get this straight... Hissyspit Mar 2014 #275

ANY medication that a physician prescribes should be covered by health insurance Agony Mar 2014 #149

I completely agree steve2470 Mar 2014 #168

I understand Will's anger. pacalo Mar 2014 #150

I could too if it weren't for a certain history of Whisp Mar 2014 #161

I agree with you to a certain extent, Whisp. pacalo Mar 2014 #169

Not to call the President "a piece of shit" though. He's got anger issues — and with the President brush Mar 2014 #489

We don't know at this point that Will won't regret his choice of words. pacalo Mar 2014 #495

Not in that childish and disrespectful way. Whisp Mar 2014 #543

IMO he should regret it. You can express anger issues without being digustingly disrespectful brush Mar 2014 #588

The language may be over the top but the opinions aren't. I look forward to his posts. marble falls Mar 2014 #535

check with the company that makes the medication blindersoff Mar 2014 #155

I thought "covers preexisting conditions" meant that you would be able to get affordable insurance tarheelsunc Mar 2014 #157

Hi Will, I just looked up Aubagio... steve2470 Mar 2014 #164

I found some info... Wait Wut Mar 2014 #214

yes good point steve2470 Mar 2014 #219

Maybe we should be pissed off at the pharmaceutical companies... Wait Wut Mar 2014 #227

It is a serious issue steve2470 Mar 2014 #229

It is, but... Wait Wut Mar 2014 #231

Maybe we should be pissed off at the pharmaceutical companies one_voice Mar 2014 #237

You mean we aren't pissed at Big Pharm already. marble falls Mar 2014 #537

I remember not that long ago... Wait Wut Mar 2014 #576

Canada has price controls Aerows Mar 2014 #641

It's insane. Wait Wut Mar 2014 #685

find another insurer under the exchange that will cover it. If they do then find out if you can lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #167

Did you look at the insurer's formulary? Politicub Mar 2014 #173

Any chance u can give a little bit more info jamzrockz Mar 2014 #186

Reading through this thread I find myself somewhat amazed that even on a very liberal ... spin Mar 2014 #188

You could be going to VA for medical care. Lars39 Mar 2014 #195

I tried a few years ago. .... spin Mar 2014 #249

I think there is an income requirement, but Viet Nam era vets are eligible. Lars39 Mar 2014 #260

I find myself feeling much the same. Many DUers are opposed to Medicare Advantage plans, yet they Hoyt Mar 2014 #203

I had an excellent healthcare plan when I was working and it continued after I retired until ... spin Mar 2014 #254

worthy of its own thread Skittles Mar 2014 #251

The main problem in our country Aerows Mar 2014 #636

The ACA waw written the way it was through the efforts of two people: truedelphi Mar 2014 #357

This Thread Disturbs Me Too RobinA Mar 2014 #393

I'm shocked that someone as smart and informed as Will was so seriously misled. pnwmom Mar 2014 #459

it amazes me too that there are so many Obama haters . . . brush Mar 2014 #491

This probably won't make you feel any better laundry_queen Mar 2014 #191

We've all always had to deal with insurance companies not wanting to cover certain meds. Lex Mar 2014 #194

Just out of curiosity, what medications did you ask for that were denied? TrollBuster9090 Mar 2014 #197

Rebif, for example, is a standard drug and is about $16,000 per year. Lex Mar 2014 #201

Those are brand name formulations of things like beta-interferon. Not to be naive, but is it TrollBuster9090 Mar 2014 #211

Don't know of any generic versions. Lex Mar 2014 #223

Or there could be alternative treatments that are cheaper and shown to be equally effective. TrollBuster9090 Mar 2014 #226

Best to appeal with a doctor's letter requiring Lex Mar 2014 #228

as far as I know blindersoff Mar 2014 #639

Good! TrollBuster9090 Mar 2014 #642

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #200

Lovely, just lovely Oilwellian Mar 2014 #215

and calling the President a piece of shit belongs in freeperland. Whisp Mar 2014 #221

Unbelievable panader0 Mar 2014 #261

I'm amused by those who are suddenly above name-calling. 1000words Mar 2014 #239

Calling the President a "piece of shit" is what's disgusting brush Mar 2014 #492

I agree with Will the_sly_pig Mar 2014 #210

I'm so sorry, Will Oilwellian Mar 2014 #212

Obamacare really should have been called The Affordable Insurance Act. djean111 Mar 2014 #216

Maybe this page from NH will help you, Pitt ? steve2470 Mar 2014 #217

I think this is covered obliviously Mar 2014 #230

An ill-advised comment, Will. MineralMan Mar 2014 #232

Has Skinner... greytdemocrat Mar 2014 #241

It is standard practice of insurance companies to deny medications or claims. Glimmer of Hope Mar 2014 #242

Anybody else would have gotten an instant tombstone. rudolph the red Mar 2014 #243

that is right. special rules apply with this one Whisp Mar 2014 #270

I sold a used car three weeks ago panader0 Mar 2014 #244

The argument I suspect that will be made is the restrictions were hidden or ambiguous. My only lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #252

What? Hissyspit Mar 2014 #276

It's not an analogy--I really did sell a used car panader0 Mar 2014 #289

I'm so sorry Will... KoKo Mar 2014 #248

Try this pharmacy in Canada... Holly_Hobby Mar 2014 #255

Who Was Paying For Your Wife's MS Drug Before ACA? Indykatie Mar 2014 #256

it was covered by a different insurance company/plan magical thyme Mar 2014 #323

MA had "Commonwealth Care"--our local ACA---for years, since the Mittsy days. MADem Mar 2014 #391

ACA is not perfect. Texasgal Mar 2014 #259

People who live in civilized countries don't have to worry about that, bvar22 Mar 2014 #269

+1,000 JEB Mar 2014 #277

+1 leftstreet Mar 2014 #287

+ 10000000000000 woo me with science Mar 2014 #410

Yeah, but we didn't have 99 Democrats in the Senate jsr Mar 2014 #432

Best post on the whole thread. marble falls Mar 2014 #539

Congratulations Mr. Pitt. You are the Free Republic's favorite DUmmie today!!!! Cofitachequi Mar 2014 #271

Yes, that's helpful to post here. Hissyspit Mar 2014 #278

And it's helpful to have a post saying "fuck you Obama?" lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #290

of course it is! that is, if you 'wrote a book', you can say and do Whisp Mar 2014 #294

what would be helpful is if you can bobduca Mar 2014 #305

There have been numerous posts in this thread with suggestions, most not being responded to by the lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #310

The OP has been silenced. LiberalAndProud Mar 2014 #473

Oh lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #478

He has the right to feel horrible about his wife's illness and the difficulties in . . . brush Mar 2014 #493

If it was my wife suffering due to this law AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #314

Nailed It. bvar22 Mar 2014 #320

The ACA has ProSense Mar 2014 #325

You know AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #328

"Good day sir." I'm a woman. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #330

Ironic AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #333

Yes, clearly you're not a "know it all..." n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #337

I don't claim to be AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #341

Your posts are pretty insulting sheshe2 Mar 2014 #359

I will delete nothing AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #371

You did a blatant call out. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #399

Thank you AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #405

Ah, you play games and like to score points. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #409

Apparently, ProSense Mar 2014 #381

So in your mind AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #390

LOL! ProSense Mar 2014 #401

Much more generous and humane response than any insurance fucks JEB Mar 2014 #356

Who CARES what FR thinks? bvar22 Mar 2014 #286

it doesn't bother you that the OP uses FR words insulting the President Whisp Mar 2014 #291

What are FR words? AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #335

the OP did the character assasination on the President. Whisp Mar 2014 #340

Perhaps if the President had offered up a few fights for the middle class on any of the following: truedelphi Mar 2014 #376

I believe that Will found his own words to express exactly what he was feeling... bvar22 Mar 2014 #347

yeh, let's all speak like the OP did/does... Whisp Mar 2014 #348

Exactly my thought, bvar. 1000words Mar 2014 #295

I am sure the over the top post is all over the RW groups. It is really sad that instead of lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #288

Exactly, it could have been a post asking for advice, Whisp Mar 2014 #297

Agreed lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #299

Are you 12? AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #319

Well, he had two options jeff47 Mar 2014 #443

When did links to FR become cool to post on DU? bobduca Mar 2014 #300

Why do some DU members watch faux? To see what the enemy is saying. Saying "fuck you Obama" is lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #306

it seems like a case of strange bedfellows to go scanning FR for what they say about "dummies" bobduca Mar 2014 #317

I don't watch any of that garbage, however, that is the reason I have been told when I inquired. lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #326

FR links have always been allowed here. n/t Whisp Mar 2014 #309

No, they haven't. Hissyspit Mar 2014 #311

FR links have been here as long as I have. LiberalAndProud Mar 2014 #474

Thanks! bobduca Mar 2014 #313

They have been allowed to laugh at Whisp Mar 2014 #315

I can give you somewhat of an answer on your first question. DebJ Mar 2014 #411

Huh! interesting you chose to post that. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #383

Will, here is something you might want to check out passiveporcupine Mar 2014 #272

I would dump that 'friend' of yours who advised you nothing can be done. Whisp Mar 2014 #285

Yup. He's either ignorant of his own product or he just told a big fat fib. n/t pnwmom Mar 2014 #332

Is it too late to switch companies if you can find a better one? pnwmom Mar 2014 #293

This message was self-deleted by its author DebJ Mar 2014 #414

No, but it means it's worth the effort, despite what the agent said, to check the formularies pnwmom Mar 2014 #437

Thanks for checking me there...you can only change coverage thru the 31st IF the DebJ Mar 2014 #509

The ACA has been saving a lot of lives. So fuck your childish, petty, "fuck you". phleshdef Mar 2014 #298

I would not be surprised if your post gets hidden, while the ops didn't. This is not a constructiv lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #302

Yea, it will probably be the first one I've had hidden in a long time. phleshdef Mar 2014 #303

It seems that way lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #308

Yea, I mean fuck Obama for expanding Medicaid and buying Medicare 8 more years. phleshdef Mar 2014 #312

People do seem to judge things only by how it directly affects them, not unlike 1%ers. Hoyt Mar 2014 #418

Oh, you are so wrong! Raven Mar 2014 #321

Actually, Will blew it. I know why he's panicking but he's been given false information pnwmom Mar 2014 #331

Too many complex variables and deceptions to actually make sense. JEB Mar 2014 #345

Actually the OP didn't say coverage was denied, but the opposite, that coverage was given DebJ Mar 2014 #417

The OP didn't say that. But this later post of his is incorrect: pnwmom Mar 2014 #426

? phleshdef Mar 2014 #336

Raven is Will's mom and therefore has more insight into her daughter in law's situation than you do. JVS Mar 2014 #367

There are plenty of folks out there with MS who are getting their medications covered. phleshdef Mar 2014 #397

Great news, links please! nt Logical Mar 2014 #404

The difference is that his friend the insurance agent gave him false information pnwmom Mar 2014 #431

Understandably disturbed yes. But the rhetoric wasn't really justifiable. phleshdef Mar 2014 #452

No, but M.S. is a really scary disease. I hope Will doesn't give up and gets this solved now. n/t pnwmom Mar 2014 #454

Yes, she is. But apparently they've both been given false information by their friend the insurance pnwmom Mar 2014 #428

Good posts throughout these series of threads... SidDithers Mar 2014 #699

No--it is Will's friend who is wrong. Pwnmom has detailed how Will was given the wrong msanthrope Mar 2014 #572

Ahhh, how adorable! nt Logical Mar 2014 #402

Any "reform" that left the insurance companies in the loop was a loser from the get-go. alarimer Mar 2014 #339

Disaster capitalism is not much fun JEB Mar 2014 #354

This message was self-deleted by its author krawhitham Mar 2014 #355

Would you be better off without the ACA? nt killbotfactory Mar 2014 #388

Wow. So many posters seem more concerned JEB Mar 2014 #406

Some perfunctory words of sympathy for Will Pitt's wife and then the usual PR from the usual people. pa28 Mar 2014 #413

Along with some perfunctory words of Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #507

+1 jsr Mar 2014 #433

Hall of fame bullshit artist. Yes indeed. Obama is just that. pa28 Mar 2014 #408

Ok buddy time out minivan2 Mar 2014 #412

I appreciate your telling the truth, woo me with science Mar 2014 #415

I don't know what's funnier Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #470

Exhibit A woo me with science Mar 2014 #536

My my my.. looky here.. at these ODSers.. using Cha Mar 2014 #416

That's ugly, Cha. Lars39 Mar 2014 #421

Yes, the OP is an Ugly Piece of Hate.. and my pointing it out Cha Mar 2014 #422

Empathy should be learned early. Lars39 Mar 2014 #424

"Fuck you, Mr. President, you piece of shit used-car salesman. From my heart and soul, fuck you." Cha Mar 2014 #427

Can you not even understand that his wife's health is at stake? Lars39 Mar 2014 #429

This post said it best.. Cha Mar 2014 #442

You are getting feedback that you don't like. Lars39 Mar 2014 #457

I'm getting a lot of Great Feedback.. thank you! Cha Mar 2014 #461

Have you actually USED your insurance yet? Aerows Mar 2014 #643

he's the Magic Man rudolph the red Mar 2014 #425

Yeah, the OP got a pass but a post in the thread got a Hide. Cha Mar 2014 #430

he is probably upset he can't profit off a disaster presidency like during Bush's days JI7 Mar 2014 #438

I do have "empathy" for his wife.. but, that does not excuse a raging Cha Mar 2014 #448

if the ugly was for the first time then I could pass on it Whisp Mar 2014 #450

Unfortunately yes.. but, this one was so ignorantly over the top .. Cha Mar 2014 #451

I find it ironic that all his hate & anger is focused towards giftedgirl77 Mar 2014 #518

A lot of ugly posts and lack of empathy in this thread. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #434

For once we agree completely AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #653

WilliamPitt, as I understand it you live in MA, so direct your outrage to Gov. Romney. ucrdem Mar 2014 #436

according to other posts he lives in New Hampshire now JI7 Mar 2014 #440

they said "it'll be fixed, don't worry": now they're telling us to not even acknowledge MisterP Mar 2014 #441

I can't afford what the government ohheckyeah Mar 2014 #447

Live in a Red state I presume??? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #453

Purple.... ohheckyeah Mar 2014 #593

What initiative did you take? Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #460

Hours on hold only to talk with some underling with canned answers while a loved on is ill JEB Mar 2014 #463

There are multiple avenues one can take... Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #464

Here in Oregon, it is not that easy. JEB Mar 2014 #468

Lots of bugs, but this isn't one of 'em... Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #471

No, I think he wants his very ill wife JEB Mar 2014 #542

Unfortunately, some drugs cost tens of thousands of dollars a year. pnwmom Mar 2014 #490

As someone who peddles the ACA daily Puzzledtraveller Mar 2014 #466

Why didn't you explain to him that his agent-friend gave him the wrong information pnwmom Mar 2014 #487

Yeah, you need to explain that.. are not people getting good benefits? You make it sound Cha Mar 2014 #494

Will, here's my suggestion Glitterati Mar 2014 #500

You know Will, SomethingFishy Mar 2014 #511

I am SO sick and tired of the apologists Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #519

Why? ProSense Mar 2014 #520

Because I'm "stupid and I don't understand the ACA." Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #521

Your words. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #522

This was nothing more than a great big wet kiss to the health insurance companies... truebrit71 Mar 2014 #584

Mr. Pitt, I am truly sorry about your situation.... NCTraveler Mar 2014 #524

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #528

This message was self-deleted by its author Hissyspit Mar 2014 #547

Pure bullshit character assassination post. Hissyspit Mar 2014 #549

Eh, I'm just glad I'm not on his ignore. joshcryer Mar 2014 #552

That's over the line. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #563

Ugly post. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #568

Wow. nt TBF Mar 2014 #570

Troubling. fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #534

try cannabinoids, even Nat. Cancer Inst. admits they work in multitude of med conditions wordpix Mar 2014 #545

Goodness Will. You have caused an angst filled shit storm of epic proportions. Autumn Mar 2014 #556

this joint rtracey Mar 2014 #560

Your pain and frustration is understandable. LexVegas Mar 2014 #562

This is a very long thread. AngryAmish Mar 2014 #566

What could be worse than the ACA? ramapo Mar 2014 #567

Sorry Will. We'll keep working toward single payer or better. grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #573

Is this one of those Will Pitt rants that will be completely retracted in two days? theboss Mar 2014 #574

I doubt it. This thread should have never been allowed because of the disgraceful names the lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #701

It's sad but I have to agree with you Will. unionguy Mar 2014 #589

the drug corps price gouge in the USA on long term treatment, all meds. Same thing with aids meds. Sunlei Mar 2014 #594

Always check the formulary. Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #597

Have YOU tried to purchase insurance on the HealthCare.Gov website? bvar22 Mar 2014 #627

People with chronic conditions know what "check the formulary" means REP Mar 2014 #629

Of the 5 Million or so MANDATED New "Customers" that have signed up... bvar22 Mar 2014 #645

Call the company. Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #631

You basically just said "Let them eat cake". (Updated) Zorra Mar 2014 #651

Let me assure you that the cake is considerably tastier and more nourshing Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #655

You missed my point. I believe the ACA is beneficial to many, including myself. Zorra Mar 2014 #679

But this thread is a rant Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #681

I'm very sorry for your many years of having to work the system when dealing with for profit Zorra Mar 2014 #692

Why YES I have, and I was able to find the The Formulary list for all 5 companies on the exchange krawhitham Mar 2014 #688

Could you please post a link to the page with the formularies, if Zorra Mar 2014 #695

The crowning achievement of our fearless leader. chompers Mar 2014 #599

PRIVATE insurance LOVES finding loopholes. pansypoo53219 Mar 2014 #600

I'm so sorry Will Catherina Mar 2014 #611

Now where have we seen this kind of language before: Whisp Mar 2014 #612

I feel sorry for Pitt having to resort to this kind of hate at the wrong person.. "anger" Cha Mar 2014 #630

Just sad. A total self-involvement tailspin. gulliver Mar 2014 #634

William, I know how that's like LittleBlue Mar 2014 #647

It is a rotten disease. truedelphi Mar 2014 #662

I don't know why Freeper trash like this is tolerated. tritsofme Mar 2014 #650

Wait a minute. so the Insurance company YOU picked jazzimov Mar 2014 #668

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #671

Let's skip over the fact that in NH more then half the hospitals Riftaxe Mar 2014 #670

Still feeling that way, Will? MineralMan Mar 2014 #689

Why? The Drug Company solved the issue, not the insurance company. nt Logical Mar 2014 #693

And either way, President Obama had nothing to do with it MineralMan Mar 2014 #694

overhauling the healthcare/insurance system questionseverything Mar 2014 #704

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #690

Momentarily Cirque du So-What Mar 2014 #691

I'm glad your wife will be getting her meds afterall itsrobert Mar 2014 #698

it is amazing this has over 100 recommends crimeariver1225 Mar 2014 #700

Calling the President a piece of shit used-car salesman very much should be allowed. donheld Mar 2014 #703

Ted Nugent and his fan base approve your message. n/t Whisp Mar 2014 #705

you most likely riversedge Mar 2014 #707

My sympathy for your family's dilemma Babel_17 Mar 2014 #710

Who is William Pitt? BoulderNative Apr 2014 #712