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227. Maybe we should be pissed off at the pharmaceutical companies...

Tue Mar 18, 2014, 06:48 PM

Mar 2014

...and not the President. Hell, I'm only half blaming the damned insurance companies for this. I am curious to know what they end up paying compared to what you or I would pay, though. I'm fairly certain they aren't shelling out 5 grand.

From what I've read here and a few other places, our friends in Canada are in the same boat with medications. Single payer doesn't seem to be a complete solution. So, we need to start going after the right companies for the right reasons.

Years ago, I remember this being a priority. I think we've become sidetracked with other issues and forgot that people can't afford to take their damned pills. Will has the opportunity to make this hot DU issue, but I think he needs to refocus his energy a bit. His anger has gotten the best of him, which I can somewhat understand, but it isn't going to change anything.

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Hall-of-Fame Bullshit artist... truebrit71 Mar 2014 #1

I long for a time machine. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #3

My wife is a breast cancer survivor... truebrit71 Mar 2014 #11

I'm a cancer patient---without ACA I would have NO insurance wordpix Mar 2014 #546

I hope your recovery is 100% successful... truebrit71 Mar 2014 #550

Wm Pitt---pls. inform your Congressional rep about this wordpix Mar 2014 #554

Sounds like good advice, hopefully that may help Will's wife. Jefferson23 Mar 2014 #565

This is great advice Dorian Gray Mar 2014 #709

My copay (medicare part d) for my MS med is 1650 a month Mojorabbit Mar 2014 #23

For which medication? Just curious. TrollBuster9090 Mar 2014 #204

Aubagio. I was in the experimental trial for several years and then the FDA approved it Mojorabbit Mar 2014 #220

I looked up Aubagio to help out Pitt steve2470 Mar 2014 #222

But I think she is saying she could afford it for a while, truedelphi Mar 2014 #358

But how much does it actually "cost" to make the drug? Pharaoh Mar 2014 #538

excellent point nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #541

While drugs are too high, it's not like you do a google search and make it in the kitchen. Hoyt Mar 2014 #579

Sorry but I don't buy all that shit Pharaoh Mar 2014 #654

Then, why don't a couple of unemployed PhDs down the street make them and sell at half the price. Hoyt Mar 2014 #658

They would be arrested. Pharaoh Mar 2014 #659

but you can get a generic in Canada for about 3 bucks. Pharaoh Mar 2014 #660

So, it is more difficult than you suggest. Like I said, Hoyt Mar 2014 #661

Medicare part d was the prelude to heritage care Doctor_J Mar 2014 #389

Definitely better before 2006- no drug coverage, elderly doing without, cutting pills in thirds, etc Hoyt Mar 2014 #656

cannabinoids show promise for MS wordpix Mar 2014 #548

I knew we were screwed Mnpaul Mar 2014 #172

but it's all Lieberman's fault Doctor_J Mar 2014 #392

The National Health system in the UK has a formulary. pnwmom Mar 2014 #590

On the NHS if you need meds, you get meds. truebrit71 Mar 2014 #591

You get meds if they're listed as available on the formulary. pnwmom Mar 2014 #592

I have two elderly parents that use the NHS all the time. truebrit71 Mar 2014 #595

That's because the doctors are choosing medicines off the formulary. pnwmom Mar 2014 #596

Exactly OwnedByCats Mar 2014 #608

I've been told otherwise by more than one Brit. HuckleB Mar 2014 #609

Only if it's been approved by NICE Spider Jerusalem Mar 2014 #682

Anger IS a gift, my dear Will, and one you use most effectively. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2014 #2

"fuck you mr president you piece of shit used car salesman" is an "excellent rant"? uppityperson Mar 2014 #207

And if I did? CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2014 #208

If you did, it makes me sad to see 2 long term duers like you and he think that is ok uppityperson Mar 2014 #235

I regret that you're sad. But I do stand with Will on this topic. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2014 #238

I wish we'd gotten single payer, but can not understand calling him that. Or putting all the blame uppityperson Mar 2014 #240

Miserable fucking crap shoot dealing with Insurance vultures. JEB Mar 2014 #283

NH does not offer many options for insurance magical thyme Mar 2014 #301

Look. Obama was so pathetic on this issue that even Jon Stewart called him out. truedelphi Mar 2014 #369

So you agree President Obama is a "piece of shit used-car salesman" deserving "fuck you" on DU? uppityperson Mar 2014 #370

Thoe were not my words, truedelphi Mar 2014 #379

My apologies, I edited to remove the unneeded snark. Yes, there are a hell of a lot of problems, uppityperson Mar 2014 #382

because greater of two evils hfojvt Mar 2014 #559

They should have pushed for single payer with all their might. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #503

+ 1 red dog 1 Mar 2014 #706

Thanks, red dog 1. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #708

No, the insurance companies are not legalized gambling, they're mass murderers for profit. Scuba Mar 2014 #517

Sorry for your situation and sorry that you feel that way about the President. But the blame goes kelliekat44 Mar 2014 #532

Hi, did you mean to reply to Will? uppityperson Mar 2014 #569

Pitt has done that before brush Mar 2014 #476

"Too subtle for Pitt.." that's about it. Went right over his head which was Cha Mar 2014 #479

nothing was missed, Pitt is just playing to a certain crowd looking to be popular JI7 Mar 2014 #480

Guess it's the Obama haters. nt brush Mar 2014 #481

Yep and yep! Kahuna Mar 2014 #498

Damn him for "playing" at having a real life problem. quakerboy Mar 2014 #613

He'd be okay Jakes Progress Mar 2014 #616

It's an "excellent rant" to those who don't care that his rage is misplaced.. it would be a Cha Mar 2014 #455

THIS sobenji Mar 2014 #525

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #558

A-fucking-men! Well said! truebrit71 Mar 2014 #564

it was a great post. kath Mar 2014 #582

The apologists can't handle the truth I guess... truebrit71 Mar 2014 #585

This quakerboy Mar 2014 #615

I too was amazed that it was hidden... truebrit71 Mar 2014 #618

Thank You, sobenji! Cha Mar 2014 #635

Oh My, that post that was hidden addressed to you, Cha Mar 2014 #638

Well said! +100 Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #711

No. How could those bastards do that? Autumn Mar 2014 #4

Heh. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #8

Those mother fuckers covered all the bases didn't they. Autumn Mar 2014 #10

I'm pretty sure that is not true. Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #53

Excellent advice. QuestForSense Mar 2014 #96

It's super advice but, dammit, crim son Mar 2014 #649

''with a polite but insistent appeal that this drug be covered.'' Whisp Mar 2014 #115

" not once have I ever failed to eventually get coverage " Lex Mar 2014 #127

I meant the polite part ain't gonna happen. Whisp Mar 2014 #132

Oh, I see. Yeah, probably. Lex Mar 2014 #143

Ranting on the DU about how awful Obama is won't change anything ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2014 #170

It's not like Obama is happy Lex Mar 2014 #174

Some think he is. They truly believe it makes him happy that people suffer Whisp Mar 2014 #279

Unless, of course, ohheckyeah Mar 2014 #456

Great catch!...nt Jesus Malverde Mar 2014 #486

it's already gotten him some sound advice magical thyme Mar 2014 #307

True enough, but I think he could have gotten the same without screaming ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2014 #633

I agree he could have gotten it without the screaming magical thyme Mar 2014 #637

we should not have to spend our lives begging insurance companies to Doctor_J Mar 2014 #395

what I think is moronic is Whisp Mar 2014 #403

And cruel. woo me with science Mar 2014 #407

Cruel ctsnowman Mar 2014 #508

You only think that ohheckyeah Mar 2014 #458

"do what they are supposed to do." NCTraveler Mar 2014 #526

We got our annual benefits pitch from the insurance rep Doctor_J Mar 2014 #529

"It has nothing to do with keeping me healthy." NCTraveler Mar 2014 #533

While your advice is good advice, considering the system we have, it is truly sad that sick people sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #213

I'm one of the more pro-free market, pro-capitalism DUers Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #236

Thank you! I support the free Market also, but not when it is abused, and imo, HC should sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #449

insurance companies will when forced cover what is in the contract questionseverything Mar 2014 #250

On three occasions my insurer has denied coverage for a drug for a family member. Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #253

the squeaking wheel definitely gets the grease steve2470 Mar 2014 #257

are you saying the ins paid for meds not covered in contract? questionseverything Mar 2014 #263

My policies (and I believe most policies) have "non-formulary exception" provisions Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #273

with that language he probably has a case questionseverything Mar 2014 #280

Yeah, they are (deliberately, I think) vague about coverage prior to you taking out the policy. Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #344

yes some drug companies have good plans to help questionseverything Mar 2014 #575

I have never had an insurance company refuse to provide the formulary Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #604

what i posted is the formulary questionseverything Mar 2014 #606

From the first two pages of the formulary at the link you posted: Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #617

if you have been reading what will has written questionseverything Mar 2014 #620

I have won plenty of appeals for things which were not in the language of the contract. Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #624

extra ordinary claims require proof questionseverything Mar 2014 #640

Half the people in this thread defending the ACA Aerows Mar 2014 #646

Right. Like I am going to post my medical documentation on the internet. Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #648

ok since you took the time for all that i will try and address it questionseverything Mar 2014 #657

All three are outside the language of the policy - Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #663

maybe this exchange will help you understand questionseverything Mar 2014 #697

Yes. The insurance company paid for meds not in the contract. Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #702

Connecticut??? Huh. bullsnarfle Mar 2014 #540

agree about going to state insurance agency---also go to your Congresscritters wordpix Mar 2014 #557

You are not *required* to stay in a grandfathered plan. thesquanderer Mar 2014 #92

Will, you have been grossly misinformed by your friend and ally. pnwmom Mar 2014 #324

Yes, the main thing to bear in mind is that there is no premium subsidy with an off-exchange plan. Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #349

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #686

I repeat: I refuse to die until I have first danced on the mass grave of for profit health Zorra Mar 2014 #5

Can i join you in waiting for that dance truedelphi Mar 2014 #360

Me too. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #505

Me three. Brigid Mar 2014 #571

Unfortunately I won't outlive Heritage Care Doctor_J Mar 2014 #530

This might help a little... C_U_L8R Mar 2014 #6

More people need to be made aware that this can happen! This needs to go viral, because loudsue Mar 2014 #7

You didnt check to see if an ongoing medication was covered before you signed up? Egnever Mar 2014 #9

Blaming the victim is worse than foolish, bvar22 Mar 2014 #47

LOL Egnever Mar 2014 #74

ok i'll bite questionseverything Mar 2014 #234

I looked on that pdf file and can't find certolizumab pegol yet nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #245

It's called a formulary and every insurance company has them. It is sinkingfeeling Mar 2014 #544

yes it is a formulary, that was the point questionseverything Mar 2014 #583

We need more consumer protection to protect us from insurance companies LiberalEsto Mar 2014 #587

Then why can anybody go online and get a copy of the specialty drugs? sinkingfeeling Mar 2014 #602

no where in that link does it say what is covered questionseverything Mar 2014 #605

I can't explain it to you. It's how all drug coverage insurance works. Not all drugs sinkingfeeling Mar 2014 #607

people were saying will was wrong for not checking the formulary questionseverything Mar 2014 #610

The online link for some specialty drugs Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #619

This message was self-deleted by its author REP Mar 2014 #632

That is not correct. Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #614

I was able to make a drug list on the wesite - of any and all level drugs - Control-Z Mar 2014 #644

"Being a victim is beyond foolish" Hissyspit Mar 2014 #266

Every single insurance company should be regarded JEB Mar 2014 #334

Could you please tell me what medications I'm going to on Boudica the Lyoness Mar 2014 #446

You are dead wrong. There may be alternative medications that work as well. bluestate10 Mar 2014 #119

Excuse me, Dr. Bluestate. lapislzi Mar 2014 #262

"If a patient insists on a particular medication when other therapies will work" and there is the uppityperson Mar 2014 #352

"Everyone who has ever been deceived by an insurance company is a fool!" Zorra Mar 2014 #94

There was no deception Egnever Mar 2014 #99

Maybe YOU have the knowlege and skills to do all of that, bvar22 Mar 2014 #126

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #145

Yeah, I know. bvar22 Mar 2014 #258

Pretty well sums up my experience as well. JEB Mar 2014 #296

A master obfuscater. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #506

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #687

Insurance companies have the art of deception down through omission, Zorra Mar 2014 #144

Not sure what any of that has to do with checking the formulary before you purchase a plan Egnever Mar 2014 #156

As I understand it, no insurance company is required to pay for a medication that hasn't been proven TrollBuster9090 Mar 2014 #224

I was not permitted access to the formulary before I purchased my plan. nt Zorra Mar 2014 #284

Thank you for relating the realities of the situation. truedelphi Mar 2014 #497

You touched on something important.. freebrew Mar 2014 #555

Yeah, "the insurance company".. maybe pitt should have been "fuck" "fuck" "fuck" "fuck" "fuck" Cha Mar 2014 #180

WTF?! Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #118

The poster made a valid observation. nt bluestate10 Mar 2014 #124

stating somebody was a fool for not reviewing the formulary before signing up magical thyme Mar 2014 #318

Third Way Free Marketeers value profit over human well being, so they Zorra Mar 2014 #316

Wow, I did not see that happen. PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #322

There is not enough information posted on the providers' websites to garner this information. MoonchildCA Mar 2014 #462

What if my medicine isn't on a plan's formulary? itsrobert Mar 2014 #12

I don't think we are getting all the details and facts here... Whisp Mar 2014 #13

Indeed. He's giving up on a new plan because some insurance adjuster advised him not to bother itsrobert Mar 2014 #17

If the nation's citizenry had been offered real health care reform and not truedelphi Mar 2014 #385

Because he is Will Pitt theboss Mar 2014 #577

I agree, why would an Obamacare plan treestar Mar 2014 #79

They darn sure do. Medicare has no out-of-pocket cap, for example. Hoyt Mar 2014 #90

The accusation does sound somewhat suspicious and was delivered emotionally. bluestate10 Mar 2014 #130

Someone's sort of stuck on permanent anger at this point. No, we don't have all the facts. Hekate Mar 2014 #233

Good post... SidDithers Mar 2014 #386

"he signed up for a lifetime of reading the fine print and doing the research" wickerwoman Mar 2014 #477

Lucky you. But in the OP's case, he is a highly articulate professional writer, activist, & teacher Hekate Mar 2014 #483

I am from America wickerwoman Mar 2014 #484

I realized about two years ago that being enraged truedelphi Mar 2014 #496

Appealing the decision doesn't guarantee coverage, just a review, and it can still be denied... Humanist_Activist Mar 2014 #42

Yeah, it also can be approved itsrobert Mar 2014 #51

I'm assuming what the OP meant by a 3 month fight is that they already... Humanist_Activist Mar 2014 #66

I'm assuming nothing itsrobert Mar 2014 #73

The President ends up responsible for all the bad things that happen treestar Mar 2014 #80

Happens all the time in the Miltiary Tricare System itsrobert Mar 2014 #82

They are about a 100 times easier to deal with than say any BCBS TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #683

I don't blame the President personally, this system predates him by about 40 years... Humanist_Activist Mar 2014 #84

Yes. That's about all I got out of the whine. lumpy Mar 2014 #151

Via HHS.gov JoeyT Mar 2014 #49

Later today I'm sending the Koch brothers a letter appealing their decision MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #510

Are prescription drug plans the same in every state? itsrobert Mar 2014 #14

My heart goes out to you and your wife, Will. Baitball Blogger Mar 2014 #15

How do I know if a health plan will cover the medicines I take? itsrobert Mar 2014 #16

Thats nice. bvar22 Mar 2014 #50

What? For profit health care screwing people for profit? progressoid Mar 2014 #18

80% of what people pay is supposed to go toward health care marzipanni Mar 2014 #72

No. progressoid Mar 2014 #114

No. That's two separate issues. Recursion Mar 2014 #444

Two separate issues - same wallet. progressoid Mar 2014 #472

Yes, that's what deductibles are Recursion Mar 2014 #475

Imagine that Jack for Sanders Mar 2014 #19

Yeh, I'm so sure Obama gets a jolly laugh out of peope not getting their medication Whisp Mar 2014 #131

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #20

What's the medication and what is your plan you are on? itsrobert Mar 2014 #21

Blaming the victim - that makes it better. TBF Mar 2014 #38

I'm just asking questions itsrobert Mar 2014 #46

People really aren't that stupid itsrobert - TBF Mar 2014 #55

A better question would be why aren't the formularies standard from one policy to the next. Lars39 Mar 2014 #86

Fuck you, Mr. President, you piece of shit used-car salesman. From my heart and soul, fuck you. one_voice Mar 2014 #22

+1 Wait Wut Mar 2014 #24

Thanks for kicking my thread. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #25

"explain that away, apologist"? WTF. It would seem someone with your ability to use words would uppityperson Mar 2014 #32

The OP's behavior was fucking insulting and wrong. I happen to live in the same state bluestate10 Mar 2014 #146

Thank you for a boots on the ground assessment. I think we'd all like more details to see if there okaawhatever Mar 2014 #373

The raging anger at the President gets in the way even if it isn't Obama's Cha Mar 2014 #165

I feel for your wife Will.. one_voice Mar 2014 #78

Psst. The president didn't write the law. Orsino Mar 2014 #171

Manny, are you saying only pre-existing conditions that have never been exposed to insurance..... marble falls Mar 2014 #523

Manny. LOL. tridim Mar 2014 #531

Seriously, wtf. If that is not alerted on or hidden, is calling Pres Obama that is ok per uppityperson Mar 2014 #29

He hasn't fucked you over. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #30

What does the President have to do with your insurance company's formulary? ProSense Mar 2014 #34

I can see getting angry at an insurance company adjustor treestar Mar 2014 #70

It's a habit of his. Obamacare has absolutely nothing to do with this crisis but Cha Mar 2014 #193

Well, maybe if Obama had TOLD the insurance companies what to do instead of Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2014 #83

Formularies are not determined by the President, and existed before ACA ProSense Mar 2014 #88

True, formularies existed, but that doesn't mean they SHOULD exist Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2014 #93

Well the ProSense Mar 2014 #117

Canada has formularies. The UK has formularies. Single payer doesn't work without them. Recursion Mar 2014 #445

Prescription medications are not covered in Canadian Health Care... SidDithers Mar 2014 #603

EXACTLY!!! I related that fact in an earlier post. My sense is that the OP is bluestate10 Mar 2014 #159

So how would THAT work ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #198

As opposed to having the companies tell HIM what to do? Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2014 #400

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #513

Most importantly Presidents execute the laws and enforce them. Thats why its called the executive .. marble falls Mar 2014 #527

My complaint is not about what Obama's legal powers. It's about Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2014 #586

You are not the only person here making sensible claims and truedelphi Mar 2014 #398

What is sensible about claims and statements like this ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #561

What they are trying to emphasize in a statement like that one, truedelphi Mar 2014 #598

Okay. eom 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #601

Thank you! Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2014 #684

Details.. everything is President Obama's fault when it comes to one Cha Mar 2014 #123

You miss the point of calling him "a used car salesman piece of shit". uppityperson Mar 2014 #35

+1 nt Dreamer Tatum Mar 2014 #43

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #59

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #246

Is he the insurance adjustor? treestar Mar 2014 #69

He handed the proces over to them. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #75

That is a bullshit claim. Congress passed the ACA, the President is doing his best to bluestate10 Mar 2014 #166

Maybe you shouldn't have left MA for "tax free NH?" It's nice up there but you get what you pay MADem Mar 2014 #350

And the President of the United States personally fucked you over? brush Mar 2014 #482

Jury left it 3-3... one_voice Mar 2014 #31

I was wondering what the results were. Autumn Mar 2014 #33

I wasn't the original alerter. one_voice Mar 2014 #122

The jury on your post was 3-3 The Straight Story Mar 2014 #37

Wow... one_voice Mar 2014 #62

I voted to leave (for obvious reasons) The Straight Story Mar 2014 #63

Yeah I agree... one_voice Mar 2014 #81

Incredible. uppityperson Mar 2014 #41

Oh he thinks he can throw any fucking insult he wants against the President .. Cha Mar 2014 #135

ROFL alcibiades_mystery Mar 2014 #368

Hopefully that post and this overall thread will result in some admin attention Number23 Mar 2014 #465

It's the Knee Jerk Obama Syndrome.. and this Cha Mar 2014 #469

jury Left it. Whisp Mar 2014 #136

Thank you. "a little over the top" uppityperson Mar 2014 #142

Well, the pitt fans weren't on this jury.. and he wouldn't know "truth" if it gobsmacked him Cha Mar 2014 #378

I agree. In the past calling the President a "POS" would have been a clear violation. One thing lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #176

Really. Misplaced anger.. but the President is always handy when it comes time Cha Mar 2014 #182

I find your anger misplaced Oilwellian Mar 2014 #209

I'm not Raging at the President for something that isn't his fault. Throwing all kinds of idiotic Cha Mar 2014 #218

Lashing out in this fashion doesn't do any good mythology Mar 2014 #669

Amazing and oh so tolerant AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #267

typical as well to defend that OP Whisp Mar 2014 #362

I don't like Will AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #372

I don't like him either because he tends to *ahem, exaggerate things Whisp Mar 2014 #374

If there is proof AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #377

See post 476. Pitt has went off mistakenly on the President before brush Mar 2014 #485

And before today AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #652

Seems to show a pattern brush Mar 2014 #664

Yeah this sucks. dilby Mar 2014 #26

It's a fucking shark tank. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #27

After all that fighting, we end up with insurance companies NightWatcher Mar 2014 #28

Sometimes you just have to take a pain pill obliviously Mar 2014 #36

At least put in an appeal. Lex Mar 2014 #39

That should be the first course of actions. In fact if a physician says the patient absolutely lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #181

Same here. Every single year I print out my original letter detailing what the generic does to me... Hekate Mar 2014 #247

Getting the Website UP, and getting people Signed Up was the EASY part. bvar22 Mar 2014 #40

"The Affordable care Act provides NO Watch Dog Agency" Aerows Mar 2014 #621

I'd feel angry too. But was she on this med before, and are there any alternatives? Hoyt Mar 2014 #44

My partner's MS drug is covered under the state employee plan in NC Lex Mar 2014 #97

I think there is a way with this one. At least I hope. Sorry they are going through this. Hoyt Mar 2014 #105

He shouldn't have to "appeal" to get her medicine!!!! Doctor_J Mar 2014 #551

"Shouldn't have to" is a different issue altogether. nt Lex Mar 2014 #553

A lot of medicines do essentially the same thing theboss Mar 2014 #580

I suspect that cheaper alternatives were offered and rejected. Some alternatives, bluestate10 Mar 2014 #175

If the DOCTOR agrees that the drug is needed, the insurance companies will go with the doctor. MADem Mar 2014 #361

I agree, something is missing. I'm not sure insurance companies always go with docs, especially Hoyt Mar 2014 #363

If the doctor puts his or her foot down, the insurance companies will fold. MADem Mar 2014 #375

I get it. Most folks here would really get po'd if faced with formularies in Canada, England, etc. Hoyt Mar 2014 #387

We needed (and asked for) a public service. They gave us a consumer product. 1000words Mar 2014 #45

Single Payer isn't going to happen until republicans are either proven completely bluestate10 Mar 2014 #177

Crumbs 1000words Mar 2014 #189

Your last sentence is a collection of words that have no logical basis. bluestate10 Mar 2014 #206

One thing is dead certain.. sendero Mar 2014 #281

It wasn't The Republicans who stopped the Public Option. bvar22 Mar 2014 #264

You may as well be speaking with tongues. djean111 Mar 2014 #501

Capitalism has to go - TBF Mar 2014 #48

Pay us or DIEEEE!!!11!! PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #106

This article might be of help? Lex Mar 2014 #52

You should not call people pieces of shit. bravenak Mar 2014 #54

I think Will's account has been hacked. There is no other explanation. nt tridim Mar 2014 #61

Nope. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #64

Then it's just the gift of anger. tridim Mar 2014 #67

And he should not be angry when his wife's life is at stake. zeemike Mar 2014 #183

He is angry ALL THE TIME, at Obama. nt tridim Mar 2014 #512

And you are hyperbolic ALL THE TIME. nt zeemike Mar 2014 #514

Genius response in this shit thread. tridim Mar 2014 #515

Sometimes being a mirror is all you can do. zeemike Mar 2014 #516

I am feeling a bit scared for him if that is him. bravenak Mar 2014 #76

I hope it's resolved. CJCRANE Mar 2014 #120

I think we can figure out a way if he is interested. bravenak Mar 2014 #129

That's a great idea. Wait Wut Mar 2014 #140

Good idea. bravenak Mar 2014 #148

Not me.. I recognize his raging knee jerk reaction for Pres Obama.. Cha Mar 2014 #225

But, i bet we could help him if he wants our help. bravenak Mar 2014 #268

Yes, bravenak.. I believe this poster said it best.. Cha Mar 2014 #282

He should take the advice on this and rail about another issue. bravenak Mar 2014 #292

Well he did this one "piece of shit used car salesman" Hidden and will wouldn't know "the truth" if Cha Mar 2014 #304

Open enrollement does not end until the 31st, look for a new plan Motown_Johnny Mar 2014 #56

It's New Hampshire. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #68

But you said in a post above that NH has ten options, have you tried the other nine? sheshe2 Mar 2014 #100

Since health-care costs can't be deducted from taxes unless you run up an enormous bill, bluestate10 Mar 2014 #184

First, edit your OP. This is a state issue Motown_Johnny Mar 2014 #265

We have Anthem and use eScripts as their mail order pharmacy Purrfessor Mar 2014 #502

Have you gone to the National Multiple Sclerosis Society web site? JoePhilly Mar 2014 #57

I found this on their website as well steve2470 Mar 2014 #205

Kudos for you too! DebJ Mar 2014 #396

Cool! Nice to see some real assistance being offered! DebJ Mar 2014 #394

Misplaced anger is the downfall of many great people. nt tridim Mar 2014 #58

Misplaced loyalty, too. 1000words Mar 2014 #77

Even moreso. n/t Aerows Mar 2014 #622

aca is not about health care, it is about health insurance companies health care may or may not be msongs Mar 2014 #60

So it was covered before, and now isn't? treestar Mar 2014 #65

You're missing the point. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #71

+1 ChazII Mar 2014 #101

I you feel there are no alternatives, or your physician's authorization cannot remedy it, then start lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #185

She asked you a simple question. WAS the drug covered by you plan before bluestate10 Mar 2014 #196

Your agent falsely told you a non-exchange insurer may deny someone for preexisting conditions. pnwmom Mar 2014 #435

Are other MS medications covered? theboss Mar 2014 #578

that is the problem with using the existing insurance companies dembotoz Mar 2014 #85

A long shot and possibly illegal Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2014 #87

Just use the prescription that the U.S. doctor wrote, and have it filled by a reliable pharmacy in lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #190

Or go for a drive. It's not like he's all that far from the border. MADem Mar 2014 #364

Medication from Canada Aerows Mar 2014 #623

One argument that has been used is that we are subsidizing the other countries costs for the drugs, lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #626

It's a bullshit argument Aerows Mar 2014 #628

Regardless a lot of the problem is Congress lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #666

No arguments from me Aerows Mar 2014 #667

So should I self-delete? lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #672

I was just teasing Aerows Mar 2014 #673

I didn't take you seriously, though I did repost the same response, just in case lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #675

Seriously, I really didn't mean anything by it Aerows Mar 2014 #677

I know. LOL lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #678

You never know Aerows Mar 2014 #680

Regardless, a lot of the problem is Congress lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #674

A lot of the problem Aerows Mar 2014 #676

Does RomneyCare have the same problem in Mass? Common Sense Party Mar 2014 #89

The OP lives in New Hampshire. Until LePage took over in Maine, NH was the bluestate10 Mar 2014 #202

The plan in MA is very good. I've got friends and family with complex medical issues and they MADem Mar 2014 #365

calm down Will, have a stiff drink. nt dionysus Mar 2014 #91

If only we could get them Mr.Bill Mar 2014 #109

yeah it's probably out of network. dionysus Mar 2014 #199

If there is any research or other assitance any of us could provide, please ask no matter Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #95

Did anyone expect insurance companies to allow their profits to be fucked with? Auggie Mar 2014 #98

I cerntainly didn't. dilby Mar 2014 #108

I hope you're able to resolve this, Will. CJCRANE Mar 2014 #102

This message was self-deleted by its author nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #103

New Jersey? rudolph the red Mar 2014 #178

You are right, my mistake, he should call his delegation from Massachusetts. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #179

And I was right. Will lives in New Jersey. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #329

The OP lives in New Hampshire. rudolph the red Mar 2014 #338

My apologies, he should still contact his delegation nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #342

Agreed rudolph the red Mar 2014 #346

true.. but no "mainstream" candidate for President in the last 30 years would dare disobey Douglas Carpenter Mar 2014 #104

I'm so sorry, Will. LiberalAndProud Mar 2014 #107

It's these kind of inexcusable problems with the ACA seveneyes Mar 2014 #110

It's simply not true that nobody read the health care bill before it was passed. cheapdate Mar 2014 #423

The most basic...letting a doctor decide which medicine, not an insurance company seveneyes Mar 2014 #504

As has been pointed out by others on this thread, cheapdate Mar 2014 #665

It isn't what was promised, we were lied to, and people are suffering for it. Skip Intro Mar 2014 #111

No one "lied" about the problem in the OP. ProSense Mar 2014 #128

The President's personal choice is probably single payer. Lex Mar 2014 #153

no it wasn't Doctor_J Mar 2014 #419

Sure Lex Mar 2014 #420

In 2008, Camnpaign Obama said that he preferred Single Payer, bvar22 Mar 2014 #581

Oh please. Skip Intro Mar 2014 #274

What ProSense Mar 2014 #327

It's all a parsing and spin game with you, Prosense. Skip Intro Mar 2014 #343

This thread isn't about facts. ProSense Mar 2014 #351

Little here is about facts when those facts "hurt" Obama. Skip Intro Mar 2014 #353

It has become so very obvious over the years. Rex Mar 2014 #696

Good news! No matter how bad they fuck you, thanks to Obama you still have to buy it. nt Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #112

I don't need expensive medication, but sometimes I get rejected for a maintenance medication bluestate10 Mar 2014 #113

Quick question Aerows Mar 2014 #625

While you are at it you should fuck the 5,000,000 who now have insurance & didn't before. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2014 #116

Having insurance is not the same as having healthcare. dilby Mar 2014 #121

Or... Wait Wut Mar 2014 #137

Thanks for your post. Number23 Mar 2014 #467

True. But Obama made affordable insurance the law of the land. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2014 #139

Single Payer would have been better. dilby Mar 2014 #152

I bet the President would have definitely preferred single payer, but Lex Mar 2014 #154

Well now it never will. dilby Mar 2014 #158

"Healthcare tax" phrasing is Republican framing of the issues. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2014 #162

No, this mediocre ACA is a step on the road to eventual single payer once Lex Mar 2014 #163

Nope, the ACA makes it more likely jeff47 Mar 2014 #439

Of course, but too many scared Dem congresspeople would have voted it down. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2014 #160

+100. n/t Skip Intro Mar 2014 #366

When those five million go to use the insurance, then truedelphi Mar 2014 #380

Not true and you know it brush Mar 2014 #488

I get it. Insurance is not health care. But they will get more care than they got before. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2014 #499

Oh hell! I'm so sorry, Will. n/t Duval Mar 2014 #125

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #133

You live in MA right? boston bean Mar 2014 #134

He moved to tax free NH, there are fewer options up there. nt MADem Mar 2014 #384

WRP, if it were Duval Mar 2014 #138

Just what mankind needs, more hate. That will sure come in handy in obtaining pills for Mrs.Pitt. lumpy Mar 2014 #192

I have had many a fight with Anthem about non-approved medication naturallyselected Mar 2014 #141

fu kardonb Mar 2014 #147

What would have been different meanit Mar 2014 #187

Let me get this straight... Hissyspit Mar 2014 #275

ANY medication that a physician prescribes should be covered by health insurance Agony Mar 2014 #149

I completely agree steve2470 Mar 2014 #168

I understand Will's anger. pacalo Mar 2014 #150

I could too if it weren't for a certain history of Whisp Mar 2014 #161

I agree with you to a certain extent, Whisp. pacalo Mar 2014 #169

Not to call the President "a piece of shit" though. He's got anger issues — and with the President brush Mar 2014 #489

We don't know at this point that Will won't regret his choice of words. pacalo Mar 2014 #495

Not in that childish and disrespectful way. Whisp Mar 2014 #543

IMO he should regret it. You can express anger issues without being digustingly disrespectful brush Mar 2014 #588

The language may be over the top but the opinions aren't. I look forward to his posts. marble falls Mar 2014 #535

check with the company that makes the medication blindersoff Mar 2014 #155

I thought "covers preexisting conditions" meant that you would be able to get affordable insurance tarheelsunc Mar 2014 #157

Hi Will, I just looked up Aubagio... steve2470 Mar 2014 #164

I found some info... Wait Wut Mar 2014 #214

yes good point steve2470 Mar 2014 #219

Maybe we should be pissed off at the pharmaceutical companies... Wait Wut Mar 2014 #227

It is a serious issue steve2470 Mar 2014 #229

It is, but... Wait Wut Mar 2014 #231

Maybe we should be pissed off at the pharmaceutical companies one_voice Mar 2014 #237

You mean we aren't pissed at Big Pharm already. marble falls Mar 2014 #537

I remember not that long ago... Wait Wut Mar 2014 #576

Canada has price controls Aerows Mar 2014 #641

It's insane. Wait Wut Mar 2014 #685

find another insurer under the exchange that will cover it. If they do then find out if you can lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #167

Did you look at the insurer's formulary? Politicub Mar 2014 #173

Any chance u can give a little bit more info jamzrockz Mar 2014 #186

Reading through this thread I find myself somewhat amazed that even on a very liberal ... spin Mar 2014 #188

You could be going to VA for medical care. Lars39 Mar 2014 #195

I tried a few years ago. .... spin Mar 2014 #249

I think there is an income requirement, but Viet Nam era vets are eligible. Lars39 Mar 2014 #260

I find myself feeling much the same. Many DUers are opposed to Medicare Advantage plans, yet they Hoyt Mar 2014 #203

I had an excellent healthcare plan when I was working and it continued after I retired until ... spin Mar 2014 #254

worthy of its own thread Skittles Mar 2014 #251

The main problem in our country Aerows Mar 2014 #636

The ACA waw written the way it was through the efforts of two people: truedelphi Mar 2014 #357

This Thread Disturbs Me Too RobinA Mar 2014 #393

I'm shocked that someone as smart and informed as Will was so seriously misled. pnwmom Mar 2014 #459

it amazes me too that there are so many Obama haters . . . brush Mar 2014 #491

This probably won't make you feel any better laundry_queen Mar 2014 #191

We've all always had to deal with insurance companies not wanting to cover certain meds. Lex Mar 2014 #194

Just out of curiosity, what medications did you ask for that were denied? TrollBuster9090 Mar 2014 #197

Rebif, for example, is a standard drug and is about $16,000 per year. Lex Mar 2014 #201

Those are brand name formulations of things like beta-interferon. Not to be naive, but is it TrollBuster9090 Mar 2014 #211

Don't know of any generic versions. Lex Mar 2014 #223

Or there could be alternative treatments that are cheaper and shown to be equally effective. TrollBuster9090 Mar 2014 #226

Best to appeal with a doctor's letter requiring Lex Mar 2014 #228

as far as I know blindersoff Mar 2014 #639

Good! TrollBuster9090 Mar 2014 #642

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #200

Lovely, just lovely Oilwellian Mar 2014 #215

and calling the President a piece of shit belongs in freeperland. Whisp Mar 2014 #221

Unbelievable panader0 Mar 2014 #261

I'm amused by those who are suddenly above name-calling. 1000words Mar 2014 #239

Calling the President a "piece of shit" is what's disgusting brush Mar 2014 #492

I agree with Will the_sly_pig Mar 2014 #210

I'm so sorry, Will Oilwellian Mar 2014 #212

Obamacare really should have been called The Affordable Insurance Act. djean111 Mar 2014 #216

Maybe this page from NH will help you, Pitt ? steve2470 Mar 2014 #217

I think this is covered obliviously Mar 2014 #230

An ill-advised comment, Will. MineralMan Mar 2014 #232

Has Skinner... greytdemocrat Mar 2014 #241

It is standard practice of insurance companies to deny medications or claims. Glimmer of Hope Mar 2014 #242

Anybody else would have gotten an instant tombstone. rudolph the red Mar 2014 #243

that is right. special rules apply with this one Whisp Mar 2014 #270

I sold a used car three weeks ago panader0 Mar 2014 #244

The argument I suspect that will be made is the restrictions were hidden or ambiguous. My only lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #252

What? Hissyspit Mar 2014 #276

It's not an analogy--I really did sell a used car panader0 Mar 2014 #289

I'm so sorry Will... KoKo Mar 2014 #248

Try this pharmacy in Canada... Holly_Hobby Mar 2014 #255

Who Was Paying For Your Wife's MS Drug Before ACA? Indykatie Mar 2014 #256

it was covered by a different insurance company/plan magical thyme Mar 2014 #323

MA had "Commonwealth Care"--our local ACA---for years, since the Mittsy days. MADem Mar 2014 #391

ACA is not perfect. Texasgal Mar 2014 #259

People who live in civilized countries don't have to worry about that, bvar22 Mar 2014 #269

+1,000 JEB Mar 2014 #277

+1 leftstreet Mar 2014 #287

+ 10000000000000 woo me with science Mar 2014 #410

Yeah, but we didn't have 99 Democrats in the Senate jsr Mar 2014 #432

Best post on the whole thread. marble falls Mar 2014 #539

Congratulations Mr. Pitt. You are the Free Republic's favorite DUmmie today!!!! Cofitachequi Mar 2014 #271

Yes, that's helpful to post here. Hissyspit Mar 2014 #278

And it's helpful to have a post saying "fuck you Obama?" lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #290

of course it is! that is, if you 'wrote a book', you can say and do Whisp Mar 2014 #294

what would be helpful is if you can bobduca Mar 2014 #305

There have been numerous posts in this thread with suggestions, most not being responded to by the lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #310

The OP has been silenced. LiberalAndProud Mar 2014 #473

Oh lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #478

He has the right to feel horrible about his wife's illness and the difficulties in . . . brush Mar 2014 #493

If it was my wife suffering due to this law AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #314

Nailed It. bvar22 Mar 2014 #320

The ACA has ProSense Mar 2014 #325

You know AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #328

"Good day sir." I'm a woman. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #330

Ironic AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #333

Yes, clearly you're not a "know it all..." n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #337

I don't claim to be AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #341

Your posts are pretty insulting sheshe2 Mar 2014 #359

I will delete nothing AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #371

You did a blatant call out. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #399

Thank you AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #405

Ah, you play games and like to score points. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #409

Apparently, ProSense Mar 2014 #381

So in your mind AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #390

LOL! ProSense Mar 2014 #401

Much more generous and humane response than any insurance fucks JEB Mar 2014 #356

Who CARES what FR thinks? bvar22 Mar 2014 #286

it doesn't bother you that the OP uses FR words insulting the President Whisp Mar 2014 #291

What are FR words? AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #335

the OP did the character assasination on the President. Whisp Mar 2014 #340

Perhaps if the President had offered up a few fights for the middle class on any of the following: truedelphi Mar 2014 #376

I believe that Will found his own words to express exactly what he was feeling... bvar22 Mar 2014 #347

yeh, let's all speak like the OP did/does... Whisp Mar 2014 #348

Exactly my thought, bvar. 1000words Mar 2014 #295

I am sure the over the top post is all over the RW groups. It is really sad that instead of lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #288

Exactly, it could have been a post asking for advice, Whisp Mar 2014 #297

Agreed lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #299

Are you 12? AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #319

Well, he had two options jeff47 Mar 2014 #443

When did links to FR become cool to post on DU? bobduca Mar 2014 #300

Why do some DU members watch faux? To see what the enemy is saying. Saying "fuck you Obama" is lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #306

it seems like a case of strange bedfellows to go scanning FR for what they say about "dummies" bobduca Mar 2014 #317

I don't watch any of that garbage, however, that is the reason I have been told when I inquired. lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #326

FR links have always been allowed here. n/t Whisp Mar 2014 #309

No, they haven't. Hissyspit Mar 2014 #311

FR links have been here as long as I have. LiberalAndProud Mar 2014 #474

Thanks! bobduca Mar 2014 #313

They have been allowed to laugh at Whisp Mar 2014 #315

I can give you somewhat of an answer on your first question. DebJ Mar 2014 #411

Huh! interesting you chose to post that. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #383

Will, here is something you might want to check out passiveporcupine Mar 2014 #272

I would dump that 'friend' of yours who advised you nothing can be done. Whisp Mar 2014 #285

Yup. He's either ignorant of his own product or he just told a big fat fib. n/t pnwmom Mar 2014 #332

Is it too late to switch companies if you can find a better one? pnwmom Mar 2014 #293

This message was self-deleted by its author DebJ Mar 2014 #414

No, but it means it's worth the effort, despite what the agent said, to check the formularies pnwmom Mar 2014 #437

Thanks for checking me there...you can only change coverage thru the 31st IF the DebJ Mar 2014 #509

The ACA has been saving a lot of lives. So fuck your childish, petty, "fuck you". phleshdef Mar 2014 #298

I would not be surprised if your post gets hidden, while the ops didn't. This is not a constructiv lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #302

Yea, it will probably be the first one I've had hidden in a long time. phleshdef Mar 2014 #303

It seems that way lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #308

Yea, I mean fuck Obama for expanding Medicaid and buying Medicare 8 more years. phleshdef Mar 2014 #312

People do seem to judge things only by how it directly affects them, not unlike 1%ers. Hoyt Mar 2014 #418

Oh, you are so wrong! Raven Mar 2014 #321

Actually, Will blew it. I know why he's panicking but he's been given false information pnwmom Mar 2014 #331

Too many complex variables and deceptions to actually make sense. JEB Mar 2014 #345

Actually the OP didn't say coverage was denied, but the opposite, that coverage was given DebJ Mar 2014 #417

The OP didn't say that. But this later post of his is incorrect: pnwmom Mar 2014 #426

? phleshdef Mar 2014 #336

Raven is Will's mom and therefore has more insight into her daughter in law's situation than you do. JVS Mar 2014 #367

There are plenty of folks out there with MS who are getting their medications covered. phleshdef Mar 2014 #397

Great news, links please! nt Logical Mar 2014 #404

The difference is that his friend the insurance agent gave him false information pnwmom Mar 2014 #431

Understandably disturbed yes. But the rhetoric wasn't really justifiable. phleshdef Mar 2014 #452

No, but M.S. is a really scary disease. I hope Will doesn't give up and gets this solved now. n/t pnwmom Mar 2014 #454

Yes, she is. But apparently they've both been given false information by their friend the insurance pnwmom Mar 2014 #428

Good posts throughout these series of threads... SidDithers Mar 2014 #699

No--it is Will's friend who is wrong. Pwnmom has detailed how Will was given the wrong msanthrope Mar 2014 #572

Ahhh, how adorable! nt Logical Mar 2014 #402

Any "reform" that left the insurance companies in the loop was a loser from the get-go. alarimer Mar 2014 #339

Disaster capitalism is not much fun JEB Mar 2014 #354

This message was self-deleted by its author krawhitham Mar 2014 #355

Would you be better off without the ACA? nt killbotfactory Mar 2014 #388

Wow. So many posters seem more concerned JEB Mar 2014 #406

Some perfunctory words of sympathy for Will Pitt's wife and then the usual PR from the usual people. pa28 Mar 2014 #413

Along with some perfunctory words of Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #507

+1 jsr Mar 2014 #433

Hall of fame bullshit artist. Yes indeed. Obama is just that. pa28 Mar 2014 #408

Ok buddy time out minivan2 Mar 2014 #412

I appreciate your telling the truth, woo me with science Mar 2014 #415

I don't know what's funnier Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #470

Exhibit A woo me with science Mar 2014 #536

My my my.. looky here.. at these ODSers.. using Cha Mar 2014 #416

That's ugly, Cha. Lars39 Mar 2014 #421

Yes, the OP is an Ugly Piece of Hate.. and my pointing it out Cha Mar 2014 #422

Empathy should be learned early. Lars39 Mar 2014 #424

"Fuck you, Mr. President, you piece of shit used-car salesman. From my heart and soul, fuck you." Cha Mar 2014 #427

Can you not even understand that his wife's health is at stake? Lars39 Mar 2014 #429

This post said it best.. Cha Mar 2014 #442

You are getting feedback that you don't like. Lars39 Mar 2014 #457

I'm getting a lot of Great Feedback.. thank you! Cha Mar 2014 #461

Have you actually USED your insurance yet? Aerows Mar 2014 #643

he's the Magic Man rudolph the red Mar 2014 #425

Yeah, the OP got a pass but a post in the thread got a Hide. Cha Mar 2014 #430

he is probably upset he can't profit off a disaster presidency like during Bush's days JI7 Mar 2014 #438

I do have "empathy" for his wife.. but, that does not excuse a raging Cha Mar 2014 #448

if the ugly was for the first time then I could pass on it Whisp Mar 2014 #450

Unfortunately yes.. but, this one was so ignorantly over the top .. Cha Mar 2014 #451

I find it ironic that all his hate & anger is focused towards giftedgirl77 Mar 2014 #518

A lot of ugly posts and lack of empathy in this thread. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #434

For once we agree completely AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #653

WilliamPitt, as I understand it you live in MA, so direct your outrage to Gov. Romney. ucrdem Mar 2014 #436

according to other posts he lives in New Hampshire now JI7 Mar 2014 #440

they said "it'll be fixed, don't worry": now they're telling us to not even acknowledge MisterP Mar 2014 #441

I can't afford what the government ohheckyeah Mar 2014 #447

Live in a Red state I presume??? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #453

Purple.... ohheckyeah Mar 2014 #593

What initiative did you take? Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #460

Hours on hold only to talk with some underling with canned answers while a loved on is ill JEB Mar 2014 #463

There are multiple avenues one can take... Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #464

Here in Oregon, it is not that easy. JEB Mar 2014 #468

Lots of bugs, but this isn't one of 'em... Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #471

No, I think he wants his very ill wife JEB Mar 2014 #542

Unfortunately, some drugs cost tens of thousands of dollars a year. pnwmom Mar 2014 #490

As someone who peddles the ACA daily Puzzledtraveller Mar 2014 #466

Why didn't you explain to him that his agent-friend gave him the wrong information pnwmom Mar 2014 #487

Yeah, you need to explain that.. are not people getting good benefits? You make it sound Cha Mar 2014 #494

Will, here's my suggestion Glitterati Mar 2014 #500

You know Will, SomethingFishy Mar 2014 #511

I am SO sick and tired of the apologists Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #519

Why? ProSense Mar 2014 #520

Because I'm "stupid and I don't understand the ACA." Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #521

Your words. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #522

This was nothing more than a great big wet kiss to the health insurance companies... truebrit71 Mar 2014 #584

Mr. Pitt, I am truly sorry about your situation.... NCTraveler Mar 2014 #524

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This message was self-deleted by its author Hissyspit Mar 2014 #547

Pure bullshit character assassination post. Hissyspit Mar 2014 #549

Eh, I'm just glad I'm not on his ignore. joshcryer Mar 2014 #552

That's over the line. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #563

Ugly post. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #568

Wow. nt TBF Mar 2014 #570

Troubling. fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #534

try cannabinoids, even Nat. Cancer Inst. admits they work in multitude of med conditions wordpix Mar 2014 #545

Goodness Will. You have caused an angst filled shit storm of epic proportions. Autumn Mar 2014 #556

this joint rtracey Mar 2014 #560

Your pain and frustration is understandable. LexVegas Mar 2014 #562

This is a very long thread. AngryAmish Mar 2014 #566

What could be worse than the ACA? ramapo Mar 2014 #567

Sorry Will. We'll keep working toward single payer or better. grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #573

Is this one of those Will Pitt rants that will be completely retracted in two days? theboss Mar 2014 #574

I doubt it. This thread should have never been allowed because of the disgraceful names the lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #701

It's sad but I have to agree with you Will. unionguy Mar 2014 #589

the drug corps price gouge in the USA on long term treatment, all meds. Same thing with aids meds. Sunlei Mar 2014 #594

Always check the formulary. Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #597

Have YOU tried to purchase insurance on the HealthCare.Gov website? bvar22 Mar 2014 #627

People with chronic conditions know what "check the formulary" means REP Mar 2014 #629

Of the 5 Million or so MANDATED New "Customers" that have signed up... bvar22 Mar 2014 #645

Call the company. Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #631

You basically just said "Let them eat cake". (Updated) Zorra Mar 2014 #651

Let me assure you that the cake is considerably tastier and more nourshing Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #655

You missed my point. I believe the ACA is beneficial to many, including myself. Zorra Mar 2014 #679

But this thread is a rant Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #681

I'm very sorry for your many years of having to work the system when dealing with for profit Zorra Mar 2014 #692

Why YES I have, and I was able to find the The Formulary list for all 5 companies on the exchange krawhitham Mar 2014 #688

Could you please post a link to the page with the formularies, if Zorra Mar 2014 #695

The crowning achievement of our fearless leader. chompers Mar 2014 #599

PRIVATE insurance LOVES finding loopholes. pansypoo53219 Mar 2014 #600

I'm so sorry Will Catherina Mar 2014 #611

Now where have we seen this kind of language before: Whisp Mar 2014 #612

I feel sorry for Pitt having to resort to this kind of hate at the wrong person.. "anger" Cha Mar 2014 #630

Just sad. A total self-involvement tailspin. gulliver Mar 2014 #634

William, I know how that's like LittleBlue Mar 2014 #647

It is a rotten disease. truedelphi Mar 2014 #662

I don't know why Freeper trash like this is tolerated. tritsofme Mar 2014 #650

Wait a minute. so the Insurance company YOU picked jazzimov Mar 2014 #668

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Let's skip over the fact that in NH more then half the hospitals Riftaxe Mar 2014 #670

Still feeling that way, Will? MineralMan Mar 2014 #689

Why? The Drug Company solved the issue, not the insurance company. nt Logical Mar 2014 #693

And either way, President Obama had nothing to do with it MineralMan Mar 2014 #694

overhauling the healthcare/insurance system questionseverything Mar 2014 #704

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #690

Momentarily Cirque du So-What Mar 2014 #691

I'm glad your wife will be getting her meds afterall itsrobert Mar 2014 #698

it is amazing this has over 100 recommends crimeariver1225 Mar 2014 #700

Calling the President a piece of shit used-car salesman very much should be allowed. donheld Mar 2014 #703

Ted Nugent and his fan base approve your message. n/t Whisp Mar 2014 #705

you most likely riversedge Mar 2014 #707

My sympathy for your family's dilemma Babel_17 Mar 2014 #710

Who is William Pitt? BoulderNative Apr 2014 #712