General Discussion

Democracyinkind

(4,015 posts)

61. He is actually making a vaild point. Supporters of LGTB rights should be criritcal of

Wed Mar 19, 2014, 03:54 AM

Mar 2014

homophobia whether the homophobes serve our strategic interests or not. I know you don't disagree with this, as I don't disagree with the observation that LGTB rights are not treated seriously by some.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

108 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

NOBODY on DU is pro-Putin...nobody here ever has been. [View all] Ken Burch Mar 2014 OP

Nor Is Anyone Pro-War, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2014 #1

Putin kardonb Mar 2014 #18

A more corporate iamthebandfanman Mar 2014 #20

China is better off FreeJoe Mar 2014 #91

at least iamthebandfanman Mar 2014 #92

Don't get me confused with someone that supports the Chinese government FreeJoe Mar 2014 #94

The "rebuilding the old Soviet Union" schtick is ridiculous. Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #68

I think it's fair to say that the US competes vis-a-vis imperialist ventures, since the thirties. delrem Mar 2014 #32

Beside The Point, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2014 #78

My comment was exactly to the point you expressed. nt delrem Mar 2014 #90

Two sides of the coin perhaps? ozone_man Mar 2014 #99

When One Recognizes That, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2014 #105

Single-issue reacting is not the same as thinking. BlueStreak Mar 2014 #2

Nah, they love the guy. name not needed Mar 2014 #3

No, nobody loves the guy. Ken Burch Mar 2014 #4

Those are different sets of people. jeff47 Mar 2014 #7

Um... Both the current President and Prime minister are serious homophobes newthinking Mar 2014 #23

From Russia With Love Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #27

I am simply saying it is dishonest to act like Russia's attitudes towards Gay rights are different newthinking Mar 2014 #42

What I am saying is I am tired of people using my rights as a chess piece. Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #44

Sorry, your position is actually doing what you are accusing others of newthinking Mar 2014 #47

Actually, yours is. Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #49

He is actually making a vaild point. Supporters of LGTB rights should be criritcal of Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #61

His point is shrouded. Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #69

Well, I agree with the last part. Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #71

I agree with you! Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #74

I couldn't agree more. nt Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #75

That isn't what is happening here. Ken Burch Mar 2014 #50

Why do you insist on telling others what the "truth" is? Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #52

Is it "trashing Ukraine" to point out that Crimea WAS historically part of Russia? Ken Burch Mar 2014 #33

Depends On How Far You Go In History, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2014 #88

I appreciate the information. Thank you. n/t. Ken Burch Mar 2014 #95

Are there really people defending Russia's actions on here? cui bono Mar 2014 #6

+1 n/t jaysunb Mar 2014 #8

i don't see any cheerleading, but renegade000 Mar 2014 #30

There's no contradiction between saying that the U.S. has done worse things Ken Burch Mar 2014 #31

it's not a contradiction, it's a red herring renegade000 Mar 2014 #56

It's not a red herring just to point out that the U.S. has no moral authority in world affairs Ken Burch Mar 2014 #62

oh boy... renegade000 Mar 2014 #76

If Dennis was president, he'd make the necessary moral changes in U.S. policy and rhetoric FIRST Ken Burch Mar 2014 #97

Not really. People are trying to shut down discussion around the events that they don't like newthinking Mar 2014 #46

There have been a few. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2014 #86

+1! Cha Mar 2014 #9

+1. William769 Mar 2014 #21

But everyone loves gay rights! Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #28

You don't have to support a confrontational policy towards Russia from outside to be pro-LGBTQ Ken Burch Mar 2014 #34

I didn't say anything remotely close to your strawman. Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #39

YOU said that everyone supports gay rights "when it suits them". Ken Burch Mar 2014 #45

And I meant it....again! Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #48

by "when it suits them" you meant "they DON'T support RUSSIAN LGBTQ people". Ken Burch Mar 2014 #53

Don't call me a liar and don't tell me "what I mean!" Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #59

Not a strawman...the logical surmise from your post. Ken Burch Mar 2014 #67

You did call me a liar; now twice. Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #70

The second is a "No True Scotsman" uriel1972 Mar 2014 #73

BTA is right though... uriel1972 Mar 2014 #72

Could've fooled me. NuclearDem Mar 2014 #5

Exactly.. and saying it isn't so doesn't change what's been going on. Cha Mar 2014 #10

What HAS been going on, as you see it? Ken Burch Mar 2014 #58

No "We" aren't all anti-Putin.. you're wrong. here's a thread just last night with Putin Propaganda Cha Mar 2014 #63

Is Russia entitled to Eastern Ukraine? -nt Anansi1171 Mar 2014 #83

Good points flamingdem Mar 2014 #11

I think Snowden and Greenwald itsrobert Mar 2014 #12

These "no body" says (fill in the blank) posts are ridiculous BainsBane Mar 2014 #13

Well Said, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2014 #14

I actually find the "NO ONE HERE SUPPORTS PUTIN!1" posts almost as hilarious as the actual Number23 Mar 2014 #16

There are no Pro-Putin posts and you know it. Ken Burch Mar 2014 #37

So if there are no pro-Putin posts, why do we keep seeing posts denying their existence? Number23 Mar 2014 #38

Because false accusations must be denied. Ken Burch Mar 2014 #41

This subthread is seriously orwellian newthinking Mar 2014 #51

Accusations of "falseness" must be denied over and over and over again Number23 Mar 2014 #64

THAT post must indeed win the Orwell Award! Bravo! nt Bonobo Mar 2014 #57

Bizarre! It's like .. Cha Mar 2014 #55

Thank You! Tarheel_Dem Mar 2014 #17

+1000(nt) LostOne4Ever Mar 2014 #35

I oppose ANYBODY militarily intervening anywhere. Ken Burch Mar 2014 #40

Well said BB! Cha Mar 2014 #54

Crimea River mackerel Mar 2014 #15

Yeah, I usually alert only for egregious posts Warpy Mar 2014 #19

Some people seem to have learned international affairs from "Game of Thrones". Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2014 #22

Robert Parry is right. vlakitti Mar 2014 #24

Putin has the power not to invade the Ukraine... uriel1972 Mar 2014 #25

A question would be, if Crimea wants to be part of Russia, and Russia wants Crimea Skip Intro Mar 2014 #26

Putin... bpollen Mar 2014 #29

There were people giving him credit for the Syria settlement treestar Mar 2014 #36

not so simple politicman Mar 2014 #66

Love the sin. Hate the sinner. mathematic Mar 2014 #43

You might want to talk to the people on MIRT instead of making "pronouncements" MADem Mar 2014 #60

This is, I think, a lost cause. Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #65

Most of that I agree with, but not "all of us here stand with LGBTQ people in Russia and etc" Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2014 #77

"My last territorial demand in Europe."? uriel1972 Mar 2014 #79

The "I don't know what" is universal. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2014 #80

The least awful option... uriel1972 Mar 2014 #81

That only counts when voting, silly! djean111 Mar 2014 #82

Not *quite* true. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2014 #84

Could you at least wait a couple months before you try snooper2 Mar 2014 #85

You should try speaking for yourself and only yourself. My other advice is this: do not Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #87

I'm pro-putin JJChambers Mar 2014 #89

I'm not even pro-poutine KamaAina Mar 2014 #93

And more: Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2014 #96

With regard to the Pro-Putin wars Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #98

Well, yes, except for the ones who have actually praised Putin. nt Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2014 #100

Yes, the huge contingent of DU Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #101

The OP claimed there were no Putin apologists on DU whatsoever. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2014 #106

I have no shot at winning my office pool Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #107

True. However, my eyes are on the U.S.'s penchant for paying for coups, as was done to my country Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #102

"NOBODY"? Seriously? so you're ready to vouch for every single DUer? jazzimov Mar 2014 #103

NOBODY uses declaratives on DU. OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #104

..... Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2014 #108