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Kelvin Mace

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49. Depends of the sequence of events

Wed Mar 19, 2014, 03:57 PM

Mar 2014

In an emergency your priorities are:

1) Keep the plane in the air.

2) Find a safe place to land

3) Communicate with the ground

If there is a sudden fire alert, you deal with that first, which in the case of an electrical fire means pull the plug on the suspected circuit.

You then execute a course to the nearest airfield that can handle your situation. If you are on fire, heavy with fuel, you need a runway that can handle your plane. You set your course, then go back to getting the fire under control. If the fire has damaged your communications, then you may not be able to explain your emergency to the ground. If you are then overcome by the emergency, you no longer control the plane and it flies on autopilot until it runes out of fuel or the fire destroys the plane's ability to stay in the air.

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Most rational hypothesis on missing Malaysian 777 so far [View all] Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 OP

It sounds convincing but there are a few issues with it. DanTex Mar 2014 #1

Who cares?? All that matters is....where is the plane?? cbdo2007 Mar 2014 #2

The point is, the theory would give you an indicator of where to look Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #7

Thanks for narrowing it down....have you alerted the news that it might be in the Indian Ocean?? cbdo2007 Mar 2014 #36

Your snark is appreciated by someone Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #70

As an aviation expert on CNN said about this sufrommich Mar 2014 #3

+1 Agschmid Mar 2014 #5

It never made any sense as an explanation. sufrommich Mar 2014 #8

You're right. CANDO Mar 2014 #81

If you electrical system is gone Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #9

The pilots explanation for there being no way sufrommich Mar 2014 #12

Depends of the sequence of events Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #49

I don't buy this scenario 2naSalit Mar 2014 #78

Again Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #79

And I never suggested 2naSalit Mar 2014 #82

Wasn't suggesting you were Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #83

If your electrical system is gone how does the plane fly for 5+ more hours? Agschmid Mar 2014 #14

Depends on which systems are damaged, Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #25

depends Corgigal Mar 2014 #15

"or a meteor hit them" sufrommich Mar 2014 #17

Of course, Corgigal Mar 2014 #22

I like the whole "a rock from outer space sufrommich Mar 2014 #23

'Interesting'? Are you kidding? CNN would interview the fucking rock. randome Mar 2014 #29

I hope it's Wolf who does the interview . sufrommich Mar 2014 #31

They sent a radio transmission 12 minutes after they programmed the course change Recursion Mar 2014 #24

That is what is reported Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #26

But they aren't programmed with a deadman's switch Recursion Mar 2014 #27

No, but the alternate Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #56

I'm pretty sure the order came to "pull 777" and the CIA blew it with thermite. Common Sense Party Mar 2014 #53

You forgot their accompice Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #54

That's the biggest problem Corgigal Mar 2014 #10

It happens Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #30

Why is this "rational"... it does not make any sense? Agschmid Mar 2014 #4

Agreed Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #20

How about a combo of this theory and flamingdem Mar 2014 #6

Possible Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #13

But why did they fly off course for 5 hours with a fire going on? pnwmom Mar 2014 #11

If the crew was incapacitated by smoke Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #18

I thought the auto-pilot had been turned off. And weren't there several changes pnwmom Mar 2014 #28

They could have taken these manuevers then succumbed Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #32

But over all those hours? Hard to imagine, for me at least. n/t pnwmom Mar 2014 #33

I agree... kentuck Mar 2014 #58

I debunked it in another thread Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #16

A link to the thread please Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #19

here... Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #21

A question? kentuck Mar 2014 #34

I wonder if they have "Saucer Separation". longship Mar 2014 #37

Generally not Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #40

The most rational hypothesis is "I don't know" longship Mar 2014 #35

A good chunk of the internets is made up of sufrommich Mar 2014 #38

What does that gain? longship Mar 2014 #39

I don't pretend that commenting on threads sufrommich Mar 2014 #42

You have a point, to some extent. longship Mar 2014 #45

Insufficient data Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #43

A hypothesis must not multiply entities unnecessarily. longship Mar 2014 #47

But we are not discussing efficiency of reasoning Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #48

If one goes beyond the facts, making stuff up, one is not being parsimonious. longship Mar 2014 #50

I don't see the fellow made anything up Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #60

Where is the evidence for a fire? longship Mar 2014 #62

Gosh, why would anyone ponder a possible fire Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #64

All these speculations, and some are pretty damn sick, remind me of the 1989 USS IOWA gun turret... Tikki Mar 2014 #41

I agree Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #44

And I agree with you�it is with the odds and makes the most sense�sad as it may turn out.. Tikki Mar 2014 #46

This story is old and predates the computer direction change information Renew Deal Mar 2014 #51

Past performance is usually a good indicator of future performance XRubicon Mar 2014 #52

And everybody seems to be forgetting Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #55

No... I don't think anyone one of us forget those. Agschmid Mar 2014 #65

As I mention in another post Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #67

Let's put it this way... Agschmid Mar 2014 #68

Yes, but the Boeing 57/67/77 Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #69

A fire in a windshield wiper motor does not... Agschmid Mar 2014 #71

*sigh* Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #72

Yes it would be. Agschmid Mar 2014 #66

So you know how long it flew? XRubicon Mar 2014 #73

Didn't say I did know. Agschmid Mar 2014 #75

I must have misunderstood you XRubicon Mar 2014 #76

Thanks for the apology. Agschmid Mar 2014 #77

you are welcome! XRubicon Mar 2014 #84

I hope you enjoy that feeling you get when you put someone down. Agschmid Mar 2014 #85

Thank you so much XRubicon Mar 2014 #86

If the pilot was turning to head towards a close airport with friendly terrain Glassunion Mar 2014 #57

Maybe if they can find the files that were deleted on the simulator? kentuck Mar 2014 #59

Too soon? Travelman Mar 2014 #61

Yeah, Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #63

If you were writing a movie script... kentuck Mar 2014 #74

We may have to live with the mystery. Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #80