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krispos42

(49,445 posts)
39. Oh, sure, my economic argument is nonsense
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:19 PM
Mar 2012

Why, because I can use the public defender? That's like saying everybody has health care because they can go to the emergency room.

However, I've been doing a little research (literally, a little, I'm popping in and out right now) and I think that what we're really trying to discuss is not "Castle Doctrine" in that you're required to retreat in your home.

I think I was mis-using the term, and I apologize for that. "Castle Doctine" specifically also seems to prevent the families of the dead intruder from suing you in civil court.

According to Wikipedia, 44 states do not have a duty-to-retreat in your home. They either have SYG, which is everyplace, or Castle Doctrine, which applies in your home. Six states and DC don't specifically say.

The issue that I'm referring to more specifically, and I admit that I don't know if it considered part of the Castle Doctrine, is the section of the law that states you can't be prosecuted if a certain set of conditions apply.

iverglas discussed this back in 2006 when the law first passed but I forget the term. Presumption? Something like that.

But if certain conditions are met during an in=home self-defense homicide, then the presumption is automatic that it was justified self-defense and the government prosecutor cannot file criminal charges against you.

There is something similar in some states for stand-your-ground as well.


My concern is that the prosecution can choose to file murder charges against you and force you to appear in a public trial to defend yourself, even if it is an pretty open-and-shut case of self-defense against an aggressive attacker in your own home.

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It's enough to make you weep. pscot Mar 2012 #1
it is. barbtries Mar 2012 #7
Weep away... ellisonz Mar 2012 #27
K&R n/t Greybnk48 Mar 2012 #2
As a Floridian, I opposed the so-called "stand your ground" law. 1monster Mar 2012 #3
Well then why the fuck is the Z fuck not in jail while the legal beagles sort it out? xtraxritical Mar 2012 #5
I too will think twice before visiting any of these states. There are an awful lot (23) though. freefall Mar 2012 #8
Because the Sanford Law Enforcement (including the State's Attorney) did not 1monster Mar 2012 #9
Because the Sanford Police Dept is hiding behind the Stand Your Ground law ... spin Mar 2012 #11
Because Sanford Florida has a long history of racism. csziggy Mar 2012 #24
I don't think this is what law makers intended but shitty laws like this can be abused. TNLib Mar 2012 #15
The Horsey 'toon is chilling hifiguy Mar 2012 #4
n2doc- an aside Voice for Peace Mar 2012 #6
These two: BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2012 #10
The Stand Your Ground Against The Stand Your Ground Law is funny. nt ZombieHorde Mar 2012 #12
Black kid + ... demmiblue Mar 2012 #13
KnR for a poignant set of 'toons alittlelark Mar 2012 #14
I see the cartoonists have as clear an understanding of Florida's law... krispos42 Mar 2012 #16
No, they have a better understanding of its application and enforcement n2doc Mar 2012 #17
You mean the cartoonists from Los Angeles, Atlanta, and Savannah? krispos42 Mar 2012 #19
Attacking where somebody is from is weak tea n2doc Mar 2012 #21
And the cartoon doesn't address SYG, but racism. krispos42 Mar 2012 #22
Just admit that you love guns handa Mar 2012 #23
Vice? krispos42 Mar 2012 #25
Your anti-liberal cartoonist bias is showing... ellisonz Mar 2012 #26
On the contrary, you and n2doc and kpete do a great job of finding gems krispos42 Mar 2012 #28
More power to you... ellisonz Mar 2012 #29
No, but they do represent opinions to further political goals krispos42 Mar 2012 #34
I think they understand the law... ellisonz Mar 2012 #35
Do the cursory search and post some cases alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #31
Hmmm... krispos42 Mar 2012 #32
You said alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #36
It's a double-negative krispos42 Mar 2012 #37
The defendant of course had a duty to retreat...into his house alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #38
Oh, sure, my economic argument is nonsense krispos42 Mar 2012 #39
Yeah, and that happens fucking never alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #40
Yeah, a few hundred times a year is never. krispos42 Mar 2012 #41
Or maybe it was, in fact, negligent manslaughter alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #42
California BIG CITY LIE-berals, doncha know! alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #30
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Mar 2012 #18
This one.. cyberswede Mar 2012 #20
The last one, fully agreed nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #33
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