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42. Irrelevant.

Fri Mar 21, 2014, 02:16 AM

Mar 2014

There is no rule at DU that posting be mature. If there were, many, many Third Way arguments (Ron Paul opposes NSA spying; therefore we should defend it!) would be considered to cross a line. There's a lot of talk on discussion boards that you won't like. Other people will disagree with your perceptions. That's the nature of a political discussion board.

Repeated dark suggestions that it's unacceptable to express anger toward certain politicians - not that you merely dislike or disagree with what the poster wrote, but that the poster somehow *crossed a line* and *owes the community an apology* - is a tactic of authoritarians. That's why you see people answering it and telling you it is full of shit.

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Political discussion in a vibrant, healthy democracy will include anger at politicians, [View all] woo me with science Mar 2014 OP

Without critisism, how can policy be improved? canoeist52 Mar 2014 #1

+100000 It can't. woo me with science Mar 2014 #6

Yeah, ProSense Mar 2014 #2

Sounds like Obama's a salesman for piece-of-shit used cars, OnyxCollie Mar 2014 #9

That was my take on it... malokvale77 Mar 2014 #77

Yes, all true up to a point. cheapdate Mar 2014 #3

So? woo me with science Mar 2014 #13

So the shitstorm that followed and continues on spin-off threads cheapdate Mar 2014 #15

Again....so what? woo me with science Mar 2014 #32

No, Will's expression of anger doesn't warrant an apology cheapdate Mar 2014 #45

+1000 eom. 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #104

What a bunch of crock Sheepshank Mar 2014 #73

Why the need to get personal whenever you don't agree with someone on politics? Why the insults? sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #93

how noble you want to try and be.....while you are doing exactly what you are railing against lol Sheepshank Mar 2014 #112

Actually I was thinking about your OP in which you railed against name calling and insults, which I sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #113

Actually, you misread that op Sheepshank Mar 2014 #123

So you're for what you were railing against? You are FOR name-calling and insults on a political sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #124

*gawd* why don't you try and read without preconceived judgements? Sheepshank Mar 2014 #125

There's a term for that . . . brush Mar 2014 #105

Are you referring to anyone in particular? sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #115

Nothing to do with "psycho" nt brush Mar 2014 #116

This is completely supported by your "understanding" ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #102

It was MUCH more than that....your effort to white wash it is Epic Fail. VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #4

Thing is this, I suspect the whiners would do miserably at the oval office job Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #5

I use a cancer analogy. woo me with science Mar 2014 #17

Hear! Hear! ReRe Mar 2014 #24

I suspect JEB Mar 2014 #26

You're using a cancer analogy? I see it as you leaving the tumor behind to continue to grow. Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #56

He was talking specifically about the Democratic Party Maedhros Mar 2014 #78

To look at your own as a tumor, and ignore the enemy, requires a pathological sort of thinking nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #85

+1, excellent analogy. Marr Mar 2014 #65

Thank you for those links. Sickening to see but explains a whole lot of what is going on. sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #68

+100 nt Mojorabbit Mar 2014 #101

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Mar 2014 #7

Did you miss the Bush years? nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #22

you are right, nadin grasswire Mar 2014 #28

And we used to make fun of it nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #30

it used to make me feel ill.. grasswire Mar 2014 #31

Many of the so called worshipers . . . brush Mar 2014 #109

It's easier to dismiss an argument that you don't agree with cheapdate Mar 2014 #49

It is also a fact the US has always had these cults nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #62

Yes, cults are a real thing. cheapdate Mar 2014 #89

Alas we have evidence of it existing here nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #91

yes, but one can criticize without sounds like an asshat teabagger. aikoaiko Mar 2014 #8

recommended crimeariver1225 Mar 2014 #10

On the other hand, how can we express distaste for the lack of civility in politics these day... Liberal Veteran Mar 2014 #11

That's not what the objections are about. jeff47 Mar 2014 #12

That's not what I got. He blamed Pres Obama for not fighting for a better rhett o rick Mar 2014 #18

I disagree with you mythology Mar 2014 #19

It's not what he said or how he said it that counts.... ReRe Mar 2014 #27

Except he nearly made the situation worse. jeff47 Mar 2014 #57

And you pulled that from where, exactly? jeff47 Mar 2014 #54

"And you pulled that from where, exactly?" Really? You had to say that? rhett o rick Mar 2014 #74

Yep. Are we going to the fainting couch now? jeff47 Mar 2014 #75

And you just continue to be rude. rhett o rick Mar 2014 #76

And he left out ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #106

Yes, I see your point. Once again the buck doesnt stop with the President. nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #108

The buck has never stopped with any President, expect this President. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #110

Maybe we differ on what "the buck stops here" really means. nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #122

Politicians are grown up boys and girls with a thick skin. pa28 Mar 2014 #14

Well, ProSense Mar 2014 #16

Scapegoating for everything that goes wrong treestar Mar 2014 #40

Irrelevant. woo me with science Mar 2014 #42

and blaming the POTUS for our personal problems treestar Mar 2014 #43

The speed towards an authoritarian state nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #20

I think you may be right. polichick Mar 2014 #71

What? You are saying you are in a vibrant and healthy democracy? Whisp Mar 2014 #21

No, we're certainly not, woo me with science Mar 2014 #35

But your title said we are. You just did a 2 + 2 = 5. n/t Whisp Mar 2014 #37

... woo me with science Mar 2014 #39

well we do have a lot of anger toward a (particular) politician, Obama... Whisp Mar 2014 #41

. ProSense Mar 2014 #48

Claim it, Whisp. 'Cause you just won it Number23 Mar 2014 #86

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Mar 2014 #23

Has the White House apologized to us for calling our ideas "fucking retarded"? MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #25

Tsk, tsk, Manny. No White House official EVER called liberals fucking retarded. jsr Mar 2014 #33

Such as you "truncating" the objections? jeff47 Mar 2014 #58

Rahm sort of apologized....link. madfloridian Mar 2014 #34

whine, whine, whine treestar Mar 2014 #38

Obama hasn't apologized for winning the election either. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #44

He didn't "win" - WE elected him. That's why we expect him to work for us... polichick Mar 2014 #107

We includes some 48 million people treestar Mar 2014 #114

That's a tired argument. Putting corporations before people and planet... polichick Mar 2014 #117

But why is Congress going to care what you think is OK? treestar Mar 2014 #118

Most members of Congress don't care what voters want... polichick Mar 2014 #119

They do too, very few of them don't want to be re-elected. treestar Mar 2014 #120

Congressional job approval is at 15% for a reason... polichick Mar 2014 #121

Too bad DU locks threads that feature clips from "unacceptable" people. reformist2 Mar 2014 #29

It will also include people who push back at that if they think it is unjustified treestar Mar 2014 #36

Breaking news progree Mar 2014 #46

I have no idea what your point is... TreasonousBastard Mar 2014 #47

Thanks for the textbook example nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #70

This post deserves hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Mar 2014 #50

K&R Scuba Mar 2014 #51

So, Mr. Pitt's wife is a personal pony, people whose replies often consist of djean111 Mar 2014 #52

So much to like in this post, woo me with science Mar 2014 #61

will's op led to so much new info for me questionseverything Mar 2014 #83

Please post your findings as an OP! Lars39 Mar 2014 #90

Very illuminating post. Autumn Mar 2014 #95

I honestly don`t get it. democrank Mar 2014 #53

Vitriol and Anger Are Not Synonyms (eom) ProfessorGAC Mar 2014 #55

DURec leftstreet Mar 2014 #59

Anger is okay if it is based on facts theboss Mar 2014 #60

Anger is okay. woo me with science Mar 2014 #63

I don't think mindless anger is acceptable theboss Mar 2014 #64

Yes, I know. woo me with science Mar 2014 #66

You get to decide that? nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #69

Facts are facts theboss Mar 2014 #79

Ah the condescension drips nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #80

I would like to see single payer too theboss Mar 2014 #81

Free clue nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #82

I know WP will most an angry, factless rant again theboss Mar 2014 #84

Anger is part of American politics nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #87

So editorial writers can just make stuff up? theboss Mar 2014 #88

People who are scared shitless nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #92

Oh...well...then the lies were okay theboss Mar 2014 #94

Some people do that indeed. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #99

Nope theboss Mar 2014 #100

Two things, I don't like MIRT being used for person gain and I have to AGREE Rex Mar 2014 #67

If I lash out in anger at someone, I typically apologize once I calm down. PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #72

So Ted Nugent is simply engaging in a political discussion randome Mar 2014 #96

no! only adulation. how else can we critically think? NuttyFluffers Mar 2014 #97

Agreed... NaturalHigh Mar 2014 #98

There certainly are a lot of threads ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #103

Why are negative emotions fine treestar Mar 2014 #111