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pnwmom

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359. Does it matter to you that he was getting a lot of recs for repeating a lie?

Fri Mar 21, 2014, 02:29 AM

Mar 2014

His agent-"friend" lied to him when he told him not to "waste his time" checking into the 9 other insurers in NH, saying that all those insurers would reject his wife for her preexisting condition. And then Will flipped out . . . instead of getting the true facts . . . and then he repeated the lie here and got hundreds of recs.

The truth is that under the ACA, no insurer, either on or off the exchange, can reject a customer on the basis of her health, or charge her more, or drop her if she gets sick, or limit annual or yearly benefits.

I think his "friend" was feeling lazy and didn't want to check out the alternatives himself so he told Will there was no point. Some friend. But I really expected Will would have been smarter than that. How could such a smart, well informed man -- someone for whom health care issues were critical -- not understand by now the really basic facts about the ACA? I'm still mystified.

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the pearl clutching going on over someone directing "fuck you" at President Obama [View all] cali Mar 2014 OP

Welcome to hair on fire Underground. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #1

Criticism for: "Fuck you, Mr. President, you piece of shit used-car salesman. " ProSense Mar 2014 #2

Bullshit. "The attack was misguided..." Put yourself in the shoes of someone whose OTHER HALF is cherokeeprogressive Mar 2014 #9

"Bullshit" back at you. It was misguided, and ProSense Mar 2014 #12

So what's your beef? fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #17

Spare me the nonsense. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #18

You're mistaken where the nonsense is. fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #64

More nonsense. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #67

I agree, more nonsense. nt brush Mar 2014 #169

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #148

You know that after a few posts? sheshe2 Mar 2014 #184

What's your "beef"? You're not making any sense. Cha Mar 2014 #117

There's plenty of that going around. ~eom fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #171

I can see that. Cha Mar 2014 #177

Ooops~ sheshe2 Mar 2014 #185

Wow.. musta been a Malicious Intruder. Cha Mar 2014 #199

It's called a Z_O_M_B_I_E ... In_The_Wind Mar 2014 #392

I think that one was a sock hootinholler Mar 2014 #428

But, was it a sock of a PPRed DUer ? In_The_Wind Mar 2014 #493

Where's the beef? sheshe2 Mar 2014 #217

.. Cha Mar 2014 #219

They are flea to be me~ sheshe2 Mar 2014 #237

Bummer, I missed it. fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #261

That's a daily occurrence AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #515

I'm talking about how a person feels when their OTHER HALF is suffering from a terrible disease and cherokeeprogressive Mar 2014 #27

No ProSense Mar 2014 #35

You can't even THINK about posting without including "a vile comment toward the President". cherokeeprogressive Mar 2014 #44

It was vile and misguided. Period. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #50

Seems like you're not getting it brush Mar 2014 #175

To be honest, you don't get it Aerows Mar 2014 #289

So what do you want? brush Mar 2014 #352

So the formularies have always been a problem? Obviously you are right. A Simple Game Mar 2014 #438

It barely got passed brush Mar 2014 #464

It seems the formularies could easily have just been reconfigured. It's done all the time for A Simple Game Mar 2014 #510

bingo questionseverything Mar 2014 #486

I agree 100%. n/t A Simple Game Mar 2014 #511

How about how the 5 million people who just got Healthcare...some maybe right here on this blog VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #61

If you get offended by statements that neither mention you, nor your name, that's YOUR problem. n/t cherokeeprogressive Mar 2014 #62

People WHO just got healthcare would think rather highly of the man that did it for them... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #78

Would you be saying the same if Sarah Palin said it? Liberal Veteran Mar 2014 #81

Yeah, I don't have time for imagination games, and don't give a shit about what people like her say cherokeeprogressive Mar 2014 #84

A simple yes or no would suffice. Liberal Veteran Mar 2014 #102

Thank you, Liberal Veteran.. an apology when one is wrong is the principled thing Cha Mar 2014 #157

So Will Pitt gets a pass in your book? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #142

I don't take it personally, whether from Palin or Pitt. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #173

When someone I respect lashes out in error out against someone I respect, I do take it personally. Liberal Veteran Mar 2014 #189

Being in the military AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #516

Sara represents the STATE. fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #281

Sarah represents herself. She holds no public office. Liberal Veteran Mar 2014 #288

Ted Nugent or Ann Coulter also represent the STATE. fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #454

Obviously, this discussion offends you, though it didn't mention you or your name. phleshdef Mar 2014 #129

No they got health insurance not health care. zeemike Mar 2014 #138

So what? Its MUCH better than what he had before "COBRA". VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #143

Well so you know, I don't always agree with WP. zeemike Mar 2014 #207

So if Rand Paul came here and said "Fuck YOU" and called him a "piece of shit car salesman" VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #469

That is a straw man argument and you know it. zeemike Mar 2014 #477

How is that strawman...if it is a FACT that if a Republican came here and said those exact words VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #478

Because the argument is NOT about a Republican coming here. zeemike Mar 2014 #485

So you say Will Pitt gets a pass because his has always been so supportive of the ACA and VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #508

Gets a pass on what? zeemike Mar 2014 #512

He said and I quote..."FUCK YOU President Obama" "you piece of shit car salesman" VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #513

I know what he said...I read the post. zeemike Mar 2014 #514

WHAT???? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #522

it's about teamwork -- good vs bad, effective vs not. Voice for Peace Mar 2014 #68

So he has nothing to do with it when it is bad zeemike Mar 2014 #121

Given that it seems like the ACA had nothing to do with the problem mythology Mar 2014 #179

So far every single time someone has claimed harm from it...has been found to be false... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #480

Are you Obama? If not, then get over yourself. nt. NorthCarolina Mar 2014 #425

See that's the problem Egnever Mar 2014 #13

please tell me your joking... daleanime Mar 2014 #19

You think that's funny? Egnever Mar 2014 #25

No, I find it offense... daleanime Mar 2014 #38

Clutch them pearls baby! Egnever Mar 2014 #75

It was, quite so. ~eom fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #298

Do you think that doesn't happen in Canada or Great Brittain or all that other countries with VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #65

You directing that at me? Egnever Mar 2014 #87

Oh here comes the backpedal! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #89

??? I think you are confusing me with someone else Egnever Mar 2014 #94

did you or did you not say you would not buy the insurance at all if you couldn't get that one VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #101

WTF? Egnever Mar 2014 #108

YOU said it I didnt....I understand Formularies.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #110

Good lord you are wacky Egnever Mar 2014 #124

but I am not wacky enough to say I wouldn't buy insurance at all if I couldnt get one drug! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #130

no one said that but you.. Egnever Mar 2014 #134

Best line in the entire thread. (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #309

You didn't qualify it from the start..... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #457

Canada doesn't cover generally cover drugs... SidDithers Mar 2014 #455

Thankfully we subsidize your cost TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #519

so you do without healthcare at all? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #85

No I do research Egnever Mar 2014 #92

then what the hell was the rant about and why are you defending it? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #105

You need to start over Egnever Mar 2014 #111

No I don't I understood it perfectly and You are still defending that misguided VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #115

Holy shit take a breathe Egnever Mar 2014 #131

Oh yes I know this tactic...Page 7 in the handbook isn't it? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #139

lol Egnever Mar 2014 #144

did you not excuse it? Did you not say you would do the same thing... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #145

Never Egnever Mar 2014 #149

then I rest my case..... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #154

lol Egnever Mar 2014 #161

Actually, for this I blame William Pitt and his fellow travelers ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2014 #192

Wrong. We're trying to SAVE the Democratic Party. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #291

I agree. Member since 2003. More issues discussions as I recall and less DebJ Mar 2014 #381

... Rex Mar 2014 #417

Pssst, egnever is on YOUR side! sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #521

I don't think I'm in agreement with you on this topic, but... DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2014 #263

I got to see it Egnever Mar 2014 #265

IMHO, a righteous person would self delete it. ~eom fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #304

I think so too.... Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #147

Thanks Egnever Mar 2014 #170

He's not defending it brush Mar 2014 #187

with specialtiy drugs, you really can not be assured they are covered before you buy questionseverything Mar 2014 #495

Sure you can Egnever Mar 2014 #497

i posted a formulary questionseverything Mar 2014 #500

Honestly? They should've directed the attack where it belonged - at the right wingers who are the Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #42

50 fucking votes to repeal the ACA! Repukes are THE source of all our problems. Rex Mar 2014 #446

Yup. That's why I don't want to hear the BS of attacking our president, when he is not the Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #450

It was very out of line and uncalled for I agree. Rex Mar 2014 #451

I, too, want a sudden change from all this crap that has been going on so long. But the thing is, Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #468

Misguided my ass. I would think he would apologize to all of us who respect Obama if he truly lumpy Mar 2014 #66

and how about the fact that WE worked with the President to get he and his wife that VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #88

No, it was definitely misguided because it wasn't Obama's fault and the problem DID get solved. phleshdef Mar 2014 #127

Why didn't he cuss out the insurance company? Rincewind Mar 2014 #136

Disparage the right target, dammit, the insurance company brush Mar 2014 #165

Is he the only person on DU that has a person suffering in their life? sheshe2 Mar 2014 #182

Oh so you get to use your OTHER HALF (lol) as an excuse to be illogical? treestar Mar 2014 #311

Of course it was an attack on President Obama. pnwmom Mar 2014 #348

I like this idea that all of us who criticized Will have perfect health and healthy relatives theboss Mar 2014 #441

Any criticism of Obama is unfair and an attack according to you. n-t Logical Mar 2014 #48

Criticism is one thing, slinging hate is another. lumpy Mar 2014 #80

It wasn't the critics that blurred that line. JoeyT Mar 2014 #174

Very true. LuvNewcastle Mar 2014 #430

+100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 stg81 Mar 2014 #483

Ironically most of the criticism on this board is illogical, stupid and unfair treestar Mar 2014 #316

I think that having a wife with MS who is being refused life saving meds, sort of takes precedence sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #343

His wife was not being refused life saving meds Egnever Mar 2014 #498

Ahhhh AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #517

If Obama couldn't handle the criticism, then he shouldn't have ever entered politics. 1monster Mar 2014 #443

+100000000000 stg81 Mar 2014 #481

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #501

I am amazed at this justification that some feel for the over the top hate filled attack personally lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #529

I had no problem with this. TY 840high Mar 2014 #3

Me either Aerows Mar 2014 #6

Pitts remarks were not criticism. They were rantings of a person who shows his obvious lumpy Mar 2014 #86

they act like we don't read Democratic Underground and we have never seen anything else w VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #91

Verily lumpy Mar 2014 #209

Will has also written praise of the president cali Mar 2014 #380

so small as to be invisible to the naked eye... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #458

codswallop. cali Mar 2014 #499

Evidence then..... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #506

I didn't realize that when I voted for President Obama (twice) Aerows Mar 2014 #99

Who says you have to treat Obama like your husband ? What ever that means. lumpy Mar 2014 #214

Not tell tales out of the house. Not reveal their vulnerable intimacy Luminous Animal Mar 2014 #233

Have you visited DU, General Discussion Aerows Mar 2014 #295

HAVE You? Outside the Bog this Democratic President is RARELY given credit.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #461

That is NOT what this is about.....your twisting of it is duly noted. VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #459

We cannot have disdain for Obama! Enthusiast Mar 2014 #377

Actually for the DU Poster in question....quite the opposite is true! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #462

Aerows, that was not criticism, that was full out hate. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #132

It might have been misguided Aerows Mar 2014 #334

When did I ever ask someone to STFU? sheshe2 Mar 2014 #354

It was more than misguided....it was insulting to those others on that thread VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #465

come on now, it's not like anyone threatened to kill him for saying that JI7 Mar 2014 #4

Some posters take criticism of the President personally. I have never understood it. morningfog Mar 2014 #5

They certainly are protective of him - as if he needs them to be... polichick Mar 2014 #7

You would think their Aerows Mar 2014 #8

You would think someone benefitting FROM the ACA AND calling themselves a Democrat... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #104

I'm certainly no Will Pitt fan, but Glitterati Mar 2014 #271

Amazing isn't it. So little compassion for the sick. This has been an eye-opening situation. I am sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #361

Yes, it is amazing. Glitterati Mar 2014 #384

the sick are GETTING more healthcare....some of us worked our asses off for that legislation. VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #466

+1 Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #372

You're right Glitterati Mar 2014 #385

It's shocking. Shocking, I tell you. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #518

So its fine with you when a DU'er calls the Democratic (twice elected by majority) President VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #467

Yes, that was EXACTLY my point. Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #476

I read the word but they have me confused. fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #330

I've never seen anything like it -- EVER. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #23

I think it has to do with him being the first president in the "social media age." morningfog Mar 2014 #30

That seems ProSense Mar 2014 #59

Greenwald often comes across as a total prick. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #82

True. Those pulling the strings don't come across as genuine... WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #73

I just don't get it Glitterati Mar 2014 #77

I agree. I don't get it either. nt laundry_queen Mar 2014 #141

It's really evident with the Crap Blogs that are trotted out here. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #151

What amazes me is the lack of INTELLIGENT conversation Glitterati Mar 2014 #242

That died around 2008... WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #326

+100000000 QC Mar 2014 #386

How right you are Glitterati Mar 2014 #390

The change from DU2 and the elimination of the mod system has a lot to do with it IMO. L0oniX Mar 2014 #407

Sure it does Glitterati Mar 2014 #416

You nailed it. LuvNewcastle Mar 2014 #433

Could be. But I can think of a couple of former mods... WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #509

Call it immature if you want . . . brush Mar 2014 #194

I called it juvenile Glitterati Mar 2014 #235

Good grief, you call 'the DU rant' holding Obama's 'feet to the fire' ? lumpy Mar 2014 #256

No, I call it a human being in pain Glitterati Mar 2014 #267

You use Pitt's rant as 'putting Obamas feet to the fire' in your previous post. lumpy Mar 2014 #277

Here's a clue Glitterati Mar 2014 #282

Damn. I am so sorry for your loss, Glitterati. Lars39 Mar 2014 #274

Thank you, Lars Glitterati Mar 2014 #275

He's a writer for God's sake brush Mar 2014 #357

And, therein lies your problem Glitterati Mar 2014 #397

Guess you haven't been paying attention brush Mar 2014 #440

ROFL, paying attention? Glitterati Mar 2014 #442

Like I said, guess you haven't been paying attention . . . brush Mar 2014 #460

If you don't get it, you might have a lot to learn yet. lumpy Mar 2014 #239

ROFL Glitterati Mar 2014 #245

Sweety, I am probably old enough to be your great aunt. Old age hasn't affected my abilities lumpy Mar 2014 #270

Bwahahahahahaha Glitterati Mar 2014 #272

Yes you too, wave those pom poms for your Democratic hero Mr. Pitt. lumpy Mar 2014 #280

You really are a classic example Glitterati Mar 2014 #283

Not sure what you're talking about. lumpy Mar 2014 #303

Good n/t Glitterati Mar 2014 #305

Oh FUCK YEAH This Exchange Is Hilarious HangOnKids Mar 2014 #323

LOL Glitterati Mar 2014 #383

Juvenile is blaming the President for your personal problems treestar Mar 2014 #324

Well, we did blame Reagan for his ignoring AIDS, but a different thing entirely. Liberal Veteran Mar 2014 #356

Even if they DID blame Bush Glitterati Mar 2014 #387

DUers did defend Bush on some things. CJCRANE Mar 2014 #389

Thank you. I think it's immaturity plus: snappyturtle Mar 2014 #378

All excellent points! Glitterati Mar 2014 #391

Back in the day...ha! nt snappyturtle Mar 2014 #412

It's the American Idol viewer type of people. Some people feel the need to... L0oniX Mar 2014 #405

Someone needs to clue them in to the fact Glitterati Mar 2014 #424

Indeed. "Obama already won the race". L0oniX Mar 2014 #432

Eternal vigilance is the price of something jsr Mar 2014 #482

Maybe the same 35 posters bobduca Mar 2014 #26

Yup. woo me with science Mar 2014 #484

Identity politics. [n/t] Maedhros Mar 2014 #28

And some people take criticism of certain DUers personally and post multiple threads Blaukraut Mar 2014 #41

And some people post multiple threads trolling that person Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #43

Not disagreeing with you. But it does cut both ways, and if you're honest Blaukraut Mar 2014 #51

It makes no difference to me, but at least on DU, posters actually know each other. morningfog Mar 2014 #58

My gauge is simple: Blaukraut Mar 2014 #72

I can't speak for others, but I feel a strong affection towards Obama despite a lot of stuff I could Voice for Peace Mar 2014 #107

this was not a simple criticism....no matter how hard you sing that song... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #119

Here's a dog for you: it doesn't fucking matter. morningfog Mar 2014 #375

Yes by that standard ALL republicans are welcome to come here and vent their anger right? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #470

You don't understand and I think it is on purpose. morningfog Mar 2014 #473

You support it....therefore it must be fine with you if a republican came to DU to say.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #474

Alright, I am going to try to explain to you before I put you back on ignore. morningfog Mar 2014 #475

A President is a legitimate source of political support treestar Mar 2014 #320

Even those who support Will Pitt can admit Glitterati Mar 2014 #394

Useless treestar Mar 2014 #400

You see, there's your issue Glitterati Mar 2014 #403

OMG! ProSense Mar 2014 #45

mostly just this president Puzzledtraveller Mar 2014 #74

You'll notice how many have Obama family avatars LittleBlue Mar 2014 #83

I am laughing at this post specifically. I don't think I've seen DU'ers using Obama family avatars KittyWampus Mar 2014 #258

Venture into the BOG some time and check out the avatars LittleBlue Mar 2014 #312

I don't understand it either. It's unhealthy, tbh. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #90

Its NOT about the President per se....HE is now going to benefit from the very program VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #95

That was criticism? treestar Mar 2014 #319

I've never understood it either. City Lights Mar 2014 #434

Reverse pearl clutching? cheapdate Mar 2014 #10

Maintain - see #9 fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #14

I followed the enture Pitt debacle and posted a few myself. cheapdate Mar 2014 #54

We can be better than that. ~eom fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #201

As if pearl clutching isn't a DU pastime Egnever Mar 2014 #11

Well, I do declare! Kurovski Mar 2014 #16

LOL, 'nough said. fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #211

Yeah.... but Will Pitt was mean to President Obama Autumn Mar 2014 #15

Some people have a tendency to criticize vile comments. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #21

He's a big ole meaniebutt!!! QC Mar 2014 #22

It's very sad and traumatic. Autumn Mar 2014 #32

I know the president must break down in tears QC Mar 2014 #37

My thoughts exactly QC. That's the main reason I find this so unsettling. Autumn Mar 2014 #57

I, too, lie awake nights worrying about this. QC Mar 2014 #76

It's going to be a long hard week, many tears will be shed Autumn Mar 2014 #106

Let us lift him up in prayer! QC Mar 2014 #140

Amen Brothers and Sisters. Let us join hands and get down on our knees Autumn Mar 2014 #159

This is definitely my favorite sub-thread. Iggo Mar 2014 #445

Come, won't you join us in prayer? Autumn Mar 2014 #452

Oh gawd yes!!! Iggo Mar 2014 #453

This is definitely my favorite sub-thread. Iggo Mar 2014 #444

Hope he doesn't put us on the Terror Tuesday kill list. OnyxCollie Mar 2014 #122

Cue the Mikado Chorus! Lars39 Mar 2014 #137

you win, for the Gilbert and Sullivan reference! grasswire Mar 2014 #218

Lol...Thankee Lars39 Mar 2014 #224

yes, me too... grasswire Mar 2014 #255

Thanks, grasswire! Lars39 Mar 2014 #259

Shit, that DUer wasn't anonymous we all know who it was. Autumn Mar 2014 #234

I guessed I missed something. nt ZombieHorde Mar 2014 #20

Will got pissed off and called the POTUS some pretty foul stuff. Rex Mar 2014 #114

Aha! ZombieHorde Mar 2014 #156

NP. Rex Mar 2014 #167

It's a conservative criticism ... Something "progressives" should stay far from no? uponit7771 Mar 2014 #24

Anybody who has dealt with a chronic complex disease has had insurance/formulary issues. Liberal Veteran Mar 2014 #29

Exactly Egnever Mar 2014 #34

Amen uponit7771 Mar 2014 #46

Bingo! Well said. brush Mar 2014 #198

Hope you are doing well, Liberal Veteran. Number23 Mar 2014 #284

Thank you. That is very kind. I am doing pretty well all in all. -nt Liberal Veteran Mar 2014 #297

So true. Thing is, some of us believe Pitt has lost all respect for the Prez and that is why he lumpy Mar 2014 #293

His booboo? HangOnKids Mar 2014 #336

yeah, it's almost like the FDR pearl-clutching. JaneyVee Mar 2014 #31

Spot fucking ON cali. n/t cherokeeprogressive Mar 2014 #33

it's all understandable but in my opinion it makes for poor teamwork. Voice for Peace Mar 2014 #36

Sorry, I disagree. He's our Democratic president. If the fuck you came from a right winger Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author albino65 Mar 2014 #49

I'm not entirely sure what you're referring to. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #56

I'm sorry. I'll delete it. I don't need to get in the middle n/t albino65 Mar 2014 #63

No, honestly, I didn't understand. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #70

*******Right On****** uponit7771 Mar 2014 #52

That is correct. Talk like a winger, you get the same amount of respect from me Whisp Mar 2014 #118

You got that right....I have been saying that for months! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #123

LOLOL nt grasswire Mar 2014 #225

so easy, this black and white world you must live in Puzzledtraveller Mar 2014 #365

You're not living in Europe, where one can work with shades of gray. Here? The system is Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #447

Goddamn it! albino65 Mar 2014 #40

Let Skinner know in ATA that your ignore is broken Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #53

I have albino65 Mar 2014 #55

Apology accepted Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #47

Here, take my apology. Autumn Mar 2014 #200

That was uncalled for Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #382

Do you want my apologies to everyone too? This could be Autumn Mar 2014 #422

Not sure how much they're worth Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #423

If someone on DU really said that about Obama, they should be banned. Renew Deal Mar 2014 #60

lmao Puzzledtraveller Mar 2014 #79

Yeah, this is the wrong thread for that, RD.. this is the.. Cha Mar 2014 #109

I got mixed up again Renew Deal Mar 2014 #120

.. Cha Mar 2014 #162

Can you please point out the posts in this thread where Obama has been called names with impunity? Autumn Mar 2014 #276

Oh believe it...They did say it! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #128

AGREED 100% brush Mar 2014 #203

Can we do the same to SwankyXomb Mar 2014 #243

Hear, hear! Puzzledtraveller Mar 2014 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #71

It's the same people who clutch those pearls, too. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #93

"Little criticism".. rofl. there was "pearl clutching" but it wasn't from those who won't Cha Mar 2014 #216

Trying to change the tacit rules for political discourse... woo me with science Mar 2014 #96

I think I need to timeout on DU for a bit. This is turning into suckville. PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #97

it is indeed steve2470 Mar 2014 #220

My personal "pile of shit" moment. PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #379

I'm going to hit the sack. lumpy Mar 2014 #296

Fuck you Bernie Sanders, FUCK YOU!! Whisp Mar 2014 #98

Bernie Sanders.. who voted for that Cha Mar 2014 #113

You forgot he is a "piece of shit car salesman" to boot! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #133

We know That would be totally unacceptable. Whisp Mar 2014 #164

EXACTLY.....I keep repeating ...if a Republican came here and said those things....they would VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #472

Could you imagine someone posting that after the food stamp vote? n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #153

Well you just did. zeemike Mar 2014 #196

depends, whisp. I know what I wouldn't do- try and have the person banned or cali Mar 2014 #388

Holy fucking shit on a stick postatomic Mar 2014 #100

I just read that thread. I guess it was more about calling him crimeariver1225 Mar 2014 #103

Some here are in permanent attack mode. Question Obama, and you must be desroyed. Skip Intro Mar 2014 #112

I'm tired Aerows Mar 2014 #116

Yeah, me too. Those are trolls, and that's exaclty what they are, because Skip Intro Mar 2014 #152

So says the troll. ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2014 #240

As if to prove my point. n/t Skip Intro Mar 2014 #249

Haven't you noticed? Glitterati Mar 2014 #278

Huh? Good grief. ProSense Mar 2014 #125

Spin it baby! Skip Intro Mar 2014 #155

You have nothing. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #158

Rofl. Were your ears burning, Prosense? Skip Intro Mar 2014 #166

Do you? n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #168

Tsk, tsk... greytdemocrat Mar 2014 #178

What facts? jeff47 Mar 2014 #172

I have to agree with the OP. Bernie2016 Mar 2014 #126

I agree about the freedom of speech. but the immeasurable cost to reputation crimeariver1225 Mar 2014 #135

Whose? truebluegreen Mar 2014 #369

anyone's. a person has a right to speak freely in this country. but there are still consequences crimeariver1225 Mar 2014 #487

Try "piece of shit" not just "fuck you" brush Mar 2014 #146

What kind of site do you want this to be? ecstatic Mar 2014 #150

People don't have to like it. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #160

That's not what the pearl-clutching is over. jeff47 Mar 2014 #163

Fat chance ProSense Mar 2014 #176

Doesn't mean we can't explain it to them. jeff47 Mar 2014 #181

At least we now know he's not an investigative journalist. n/t Whisp Mar 2014 #186

When was the last time a President was disrespected, attacked, slandered, etc, like PBO? phleshdef Mar 2014 #180

The Clintons were accused of murder. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #188

you are correct about the Clintons but we don't need to toughen up steve2470 Mar 2014 #190

Not on the D.U. Trolls like that were Tombstoned. ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2014 #195

Anyone who uses "the D.U." should be tombstoned. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #205

You seriously think he wasn't using deliberately inflammatory rhetoric? ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2014 #212

Well, "mission accomplished" if he were. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #221

I don't think he should be banned and I was one of the harshest critics of that post. phleshdef Mar 2014 #231

Actually, I don't either ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2014 #247

Right on, completely valid point. phleshdef Mar 2014 #252

You are bang on. The ones making that asinine argument don't even seem to understand what they Number23 Mar 2014 #315

Sounds reasonable. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #248

What I read was written out of despair and frustration. Taken in that context it's wholly and cherokeeprogressive Mar 2014 #241

DU did not exist during the Clinton years. Autumn Mar 2014 #208

So there were no discussions about the Clinton years after DU's inception? phleshdef Mar 2014 #210

I'm sure there were discussions but we were all kind of licking our Autumn Mar 2014 #230

There has been a lot of discussion over the years laundry_queen Mar 2014 #408

By Democrats? Ted Nugent called the President a POS ProSense Mar 2014 #197

They went after Clinton hard but still not nearly as hard as they have Obama. phleshdef Mar 2014 #202

+1 nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #206

I don't feel Obama represents me as well as (a dwindling number of) others in the Democratic Party. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #286

By Dems? Cha Mar 2014 #204

^^The $64,000 question^^ Whisp Mar 2014 #253

I know it's hard for some to accept... WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #264

Well then they were stupid. Cha Mar 2014 #266

Well. LOL That settles that! WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #268

Clinton was not "accused of murder" by Democrats. The murder accusation was your point. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #317

Don't put words in my mouth. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #332

Well, ProSense Mar 2014 #338

LOL I'm not your trained seal... WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #340

You don't need to click on the links. Its a direct transcript of your own discussion. phleshdef Mar 2014 #342

And nowhere did I state that Democrats accused the Clintons of murder. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #346

All the denial in the world isn't going to change what you said. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #353

Keep fucking that chicken, Pro. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #355

Do you deny ProSense Mar 2014 #360

Why not share the entire post? WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #366

LOL! Thanks for the link. ProSense Mar 2014 #368

omg, that link is BLUE!!!!! Whisp Mar 2014 #398

No, but by your responses to her questions, you insinuated an equivalence. phleshdef Mar 2014 #358

I can't control what others infer from my posts. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #362

LOL! ProSense Mar 2014 #344

LOL! Hey this is fun! WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #350

+++Great post, I especially relate to this part: Whisp Mar 2014 #191

it's amazing that a site like DU is so negative towards the President steve2470 Mar 2014 #193

Hate sells and it's apparently contagious. Cha Mar 2014 #290

yes steve2470 Mar 2014 #292

.. Cha Mar 2014 #300

always my pleasure ! nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #302

Thank you. Honestly that might've been the most vindicating thing I've wrote in a long time. phleshdef Mar 2014 #227

Bravo! Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #226

The answer to this question is always going to be... egduj Mar 2014 #228

I address that and its simply not true. phleshdef Mar 2014 #229

You're right. That couldn't be the answer for George Washington. egduj Mar 2014 #232

Actually lets just go as far back as Bush. phleshdef Mar 2014 #238

Thank you betsuni Mar 2014 #337

That was well written. I thank you and wish you'd consider as an OP. KittyWampus Mar 2014 #489

I second that! betsuni Mar 2014 #523

another rec for an OP nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #524

cali I respect your opinions steve2470 Mar 2014 #183

Call it misguided, call it whatever you want. But focusing on that single phrase misses the point nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #371

I truly do have compassion for them steve2470 Mar 2014 #373

Yeah, we wouldn't want anyone to ever overreact to something posted in GD, would we. Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #213

And you just love to see all the attacks on him. You always have. kestrel91316 Mar 2014 #215

I have noticed that also. lumpy Mar 2014 #328

that's absurd. A) I was one of his earliest supporters here cali Mar 2014 #396

Ha! You didn't know that you would be accused.... ReRe Mar 2014 #222

"Trolling for Obama" Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #409

agreed Niceguy1 Mar 2014 #223

I don't think its about the president as much as it is about who we are. aikoaiko Mar 2014 #236

In the BOG Obama IS a deity. DesMoinesDem Mar 2014 #244

Obama is a man. No one here is stupid enough to think of him as "deity." ProSense Mar 2014 #246

I get a much different impression from the BOG. DesMoinesDem Mar 2014 #254

We have respect for the Prez and we support him on the whole and those who just can't get that.. Cha Mar 2014 #287

Outside of the BOG, defending or praising Obama is some sort of blasphemy. phleshdef Mar 2014 #257

Some of the angry folks on DU live in a black and white world. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #411

It's the yin to the yang of GD steve2470 Mar 2014 #262

Question: Is a Democrat "allowed" to hate a Democratic president? grasswire Mar 2014 #250

You echo my exact feelings Puzzledtraveller Mar 2014 #367

"And what I DO dislike is Obama's squad of fluffers. I hated the Bushbots and I dislike the djean111 Mar 2014 #404

There is no worse heresy than that the office sanctifies the holder of it. Lord Acton Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #251

lol @ pearl clutching, did someone go off message? Good. Honesty wins over corporate pragmatic_dem Mar 2014 #260

I understood why he was so fired up and I felt bad for his wife. What bothered me pnwmom Mar 2014 #269

It was a dishonest post Whisp Mar 2014 #273

I also was working, at first, with a broker recommended by a relative. pnwmom Mar 2014 #279

you do know that Pitt is a NYT best selling author... grasswire Mar 2014 #285

so? Whisp Mar 2014 #301

just want to make sure you are clearly aware.... grasswire Mar 2014 #321

That's rich. pnwmom Mar 2014 #341

He does damage to himself. Good lord just because he wrote a book Whisp Mar 2014 #395

so is Ann Coulter treestar Mar 2014 #327

there you go again.....nt grasswire Mar 2014 #331

How you speak to others. Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #419

I'm waiting for her response Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #421

*Crickets* Rex Mar 2014 #507

And the relevance of this is what? He didn't do all the research in this case. pnwmom Mar 2014 #339

Which leads me to think maybe the book isn't all true? Whisp Mar 2014 #399

Wow....that is a staggeringly ignorant statement! Lars39 Mar 2014 #488

apparently he isn't very good at looking into facts Whisp Mar 2014 #490

You know, going after someone's livelihood is pretty goddammed low. Lars39 Mar 2014 #491

oh yeh, I forgot about another time of poor fact checking - Karl Rove Indictment Whisp Mar 2014 #494

The posts in this subthread are beyond low Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #496

I wouldn't draw that conclusion. I just think that his emotions got the better of him pnwmom Mar 2014 #503

then he doesn't even need the ACA treestar Mar 2014 #347

Which makes his inability to do basic research on #1. choosing an insurance plan and #2. how to get KittyWampus Mar 2014 #471

The investigative journalists are a rare breed.. like Steve Benen, Rachel Maddow, Cha Mar 2014 #299

The Click Garners... Whisp Mar 2014 #306

LOL.. I think that was the old days Cha Mar 2014 #308

i wish i had pearls MFM008 Mar 2014 #294

It was an unfair attack treestar Mar 2014 #307

An apology of misdirected anger would be appropriate. A lot of people have bad things happen to lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #310

so so true nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #313

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #314

I won't alert on you, but I'd advise you to delete that LittleBlue Mar 2014 #318

That is, well, ridiculous... Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #322

Obama isn't even reading this LittleBlue Mar 2014 #325

Who says cali is reading it? Maybe I'm blocked... Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #333

Tough shit treestar Mar 2014 #329

Sheesh... fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #335

I'm usually on William Pitt's side donheld Mar 2014 #345

Calling someone a POS is more than a rant lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #351

in your opinion truebluegreen Mar 2014 #370

Calling the President a piece of shit is not a big deal. donheld Mar 2014 #526

Calling anyone a POS is a big deal, and if you don't see that isn't my problem lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #528

Does it matter to you that he was getting a lot of recs for repeating a lie? pnwmom Mar 2014 #359

it could also be an imaginary friend. Whisp Mar 2014 #401

I think his 'friend' didn't exist. randome Mar 2014 #402

I know Will went through hell this week over his wife's meds. donheld Mar 2014 #525

My concern was that we were in the last days of sign-up and he's an influential person. pnwmom Mar 2014 #527

Every fact he stated in that post was false theboss Mar 2014 #449

When you get too comfortable Aerows Mar 2014 #349

I think I'm going to faint Douglas Carpenter Mar 2014 #363

when GW Bush was called nasty things on here the moral squad raised few objections nt msongs Mar 2014 #364

we criticize Obama because he we think he is capable of more than what he settles for politicman Mar 2014 #374

K&R! Our only hope to change the President's position is to criticize his position. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #376

DU was the reason that back in 2003 I actually got up off my butt, out of my shyness and isolation DebJ Mar 2014 #393

Exactly! Thanks Glitterati Mar 2014 #410

"Your job is to hold my feet to the fire... jsr Mar 2014 #406

You don't hold anyone's feet to the fire by throwing juvenile insults around. randome Mar 2014 #413

Well, then Glitterati Mar 2014 #414

Well, I did ignore the original thread. I'm surprised to see so many threads about the thread. randome Mar 2014 #418

For you, I sincerely hope Glitterati Mar 2014 #420

Used to happen to my neice all the time before the ACA. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #426

Still happens to some Glitterati Mar 2014 #427

I do have empathy for them. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #429

Perhaps a virtual hug Glitterati Mar 2014 #431

I did not alert. I never do. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #436

So sad Glitterati Mar 2014 #437

I think you responded to the wrong person. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #479

Well, Thank you for explaining that ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #415

Grow some skin DU randr Mar 2014 #435

It's pretty frightening isn't it? Glitterati Mar 2014 #439

Well, Ted Nugent would approve, that's for sure. n/t Whisp Mar 2014 #448

I feel the same way about TPP LordGlenconner Mar 2014 #456

Maybe it's considered OK for the majority sufrommich Mar 2014 #463

"Pearl clutching". Hardly. DanTex Mar 2014 #492

Poor cheerleaders, someone was mean to their messiah RetroLounge Mar 2014 #502

He is also very good at dealing with hecklers. liberal N proud Mar 2014 #504

PO, way to insult everyone who doesn't think name calling=policy criticism n/t Sheepshank Mar 2014 #505

Lol! n/t sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #520