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alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
40. Yeah, and that happens fucking never
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 02:30 PM
Mar 2012

The great lie of all these Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground arguments is that prosecutors were running around sending people to jail for defending their homes and families. And I call a giant and full-throated BULLSHIT on that. They addressed a completely non-existent problem: justified self-defense was sufficiently well-articulated in our laws without these bullshit claims

What really happened is that a bunch of people who killed somebody under dubious circumstances (like our vigilante dickhead in Florida) had defense attorneys argue that it was %REALLY% self-defense, doncha know, and something about that appealed to the law-n-order macho mentality that we've concocted over the last 30 years. So we got these laws, but it was mostly good prosecutions of relatively shady assholes that got us here, not the supposedly thousands of prosecutions of family men merely defending their blond-haired children from home invasion. And yeah, if you kill somebody, and the circumstances are odd, you should have to make a self-defense case in court, and it is of little interest how much it costs you, relative to the cost to the other person of being, well, fucking DEAD.

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It's enough to make you weep. pscot Mar 2012 #1
it is. barbtries Mar 2012 #7
Weep away... ellisonz Mar 2012 #27
K&R n/t Greybnk48 Mar 2012 #2
As a Floridian, I opposed the so-called "stand your ground" law. 1monster Mar 2012 #3
Well then why the fuck is the Z fuck not in jail while the legal beagles sort it out? xtraxritical Mar 2012 #5
I too will think twice before visiting any of these states. There are an awful lot (23) though. freefall Mar 2012 #8
Because the Sanford Law Enforcement (including the State's Attorney) did not 1monster Mar 2012 #9
Because the Sanford Police Dept is hiding behind the Stand Your Ground law ... spin Mar 2012 #11
Because Sanford Florida has a long history of racism. csziggy Mar 2012 #24
I don't think this is what law makers intended but shitty laws like this can be abused. TNLib Mar 2012 #15
The Horsey 'toon is chilling hifiguy Mar 2012 #4
n2doc- an aside Voice for Peace Mar 2012 #6
These two: BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2012 #10
The Stand Your Ground Against The Stand Your Ground Law is funny. nt ZombieHorde Mar 2012 #12
Black kid + ... demmiblue Mar 2012 #13
KnR for a poignant set of 'toons alittlelark Mar 2012 #14
I see the cartoonists have as clear an understanding of Florida's law... krispos42 Mar 2012 #16
No, they have a better understanding of its application and enforcement n2doc Mar 2012 #17
You mean the cartoonists from Los Angeles, Atlanta, and Savannah? krispos42 Mar 2012 #19
Attacking where somebody is from is weak tea n2doc Mar 2012 #21
And the cartoon doesn't address SYG, but racism. krispos42 Mar 2012 #22
Just admit that you love guns handa Mar 2012 #23
Vice? krispos42 Mar 2012 #25
Your anti-liberal cartoonist bias is showing... ellisonz Mar 2012 #26
On the contrary, you and n2doc and kpete do a great job of finding gems krispos42 Mar 2012 #28
More power to you... ellisonz Mar 2012 #29
No, but they do represent opinions to further political goals krispos42 Mar 2012 #34
I think they understand the law... ellisonz Mar 2012 #35
Do the cursory search and post some cases alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #31
Hmmm... krispos42 Mar 2012 #32
You said alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #36
It's a double-negative krispos42 Mar 2012 #37
The defendant of course had a duty to retreat...into his house alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #38
Oh, sure, my economic argument is nonsense krispos42 Mar 2012 #39
Yeah, and that happens fucking never alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #40
Yeah, a few hundred times a year is never. krispos42 Mar 2012 #41
Or maybe it was, in fact, negligent manslaughter alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #42
California BIG CITY LIE-berals, doncha know! alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #30
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Mar 2012 #18
This one.. cyberswede Mar 2012 #20
The last one, fully agreed nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #33
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