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LWolf

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54. Which one?
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 12:48 PM
Mar 2014

I've got a broad selection, ranging from ideal to more likely to happen in the greedy U.S.

Any real answer would involve several of them interacting together; there is no one real "solution." The ACA does not address the root of the issue, which is why it is not a part of a good long term solution. We, unfortunately, ARE a capitalistic nation; that's the root of the problem.

For health care and ALL OTHER VITAL SERVICES, profit has to be removed as the driving factor, or any factor at all, in the equation.

That can be done in a variety of ways. It doesn't have to suddenly turn us into a socialist nation. It does have to take those vital services out of the for-profit sector.

Any good, long-term answer to our health care needs has to be focused on people, health, and care. Not profit. Not the insurance industry.

My ultimate answer is a fully public, universal, national health care system FREE AT POINT OF SERVICE TO ALL and paid for entirely through taxes. Take the insurance industry, and any need for insurance, out of the mix and focus on access to whatever care is needed. Insurance doesn't guarantee affordable care, and the more "affordable" the insurance, the more costly, thus less accessible, the actual care.

Meanwhile, we could be exploring different avenues to get there. Medicare for all is one avenue, although I'd like to see Medicare simplified so that it simply paid for whatever care was needed without requiring people to pay more of their limited SS for extra insurance and still not get needed care because of copays and deductibles. Medicare is helping my senior citizen mom pay for her care, but it AND her supplemental insurance together don't cover all of her costs.

That's how I'm spending today; I'm leaving in a few minutes to provide care-taking for my mom, just released from the hospital yesterday, because everything she had to cover HER part of the expenses for her surgery doesn't leave enough for the extra it costs for after-care. We're taking turns taking days off from work and scheduling shifts to do that for her, each of us eating a loss of income to do so ourselves.

My son, who has insurance acquired through the ACA, is taking the night shifts with my mom. He can't afford to miss any work, because he's trying to pay his own medical bills. Bills that insurance did not cover. So he's working each day and spending each night with her.

We'll never truly "solve" health CARE in the U.S. until insurance and profit are not part of that solution. The primary purpose of insurance is to limit care in service to their bottom line.


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Dear Democrats, [View all] babylonsister Mar 2014 OP
Good advice. polichick Mar 2014 #1
Yes treestar Mar 2014 #2
The perfect is the enemy of the good. Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2014 #3
K&R your comment! passiveporcupine Mar 2014 #7
now that's good! the perfect is the enemy of the good. mountain grammy Mar 2014 #29
'Better' is the enemy of the third way AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #56
Yep. Don't defend it... GoCubsGo Mar 2014 #4
When this first got passed, that was the plan, to babylonsister Mar 2014 #8
If Dems/Liberals just say "It sucks, single payer". That's not helping at all. Pirate Smile Mar 2014 #13
Yep. GoCubsGo Mar 2014 #14
Thank you!!! I'm going to copy and paste on my post what you just said: Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #27
Yes, but ProSense Mar 2014 #5
Stand up for this achievement. The ACA is just the first step.................. wandy Mar 2014 #6
+ Whisp Mar 2014 #11
Absolute agreement, Wandy. Feral Child Mar 2014 #53
Yes indeed, embrace it, damn-it! Run with it. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #9
Great timing. K&R. Whisp Mar 2014 #10
K & R !!! - And... WillyT Mar 2014 #12
My D-i-L just told me last night they (small business owner) saved $700. per month with Obamacare. Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #15
Democrats should run commercials highlighting Obamacare success stories. Terra Alta Mar 2014 #16
re "Democrats should run commercials highlighting Obamacare success stories" ... napkinz Mar 2014 #47
Thanks for posting this snort Mar 2014 #49
Amen and amen! Peacetrain Mar 2014 #17
What does Axlerod say? Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #18
I like him, but I don't know what he says. babylonsister Mar 2014 #19
Huzzah! n/t albino65 Mar 2014 #20
Oh, bullshit... MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #21
Yawn. Would never have been passed. THIS is happening. babylonsister Mar 2014 #35
That might be true, were it 1977... MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #43
+1 red dog 1 Mar 2014 #46
Yes. n/t totodeinhere Mar 2014 #51
In other words ... THANK GAWD for the Heritage Foundation!!! blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #22
Dear Democrats. zeemike Mar 2014 #23
Run from it? No. Embrace it? No. It's not that simplistic. nt LWolf Mar 2014 #24
So what is your solution? nt babylonsister Mar 2014 #33
Single payer. I'm tired of hearing that it can't be passed. It has widespread support among ordinary totodeinhere Mar 2014 #52
Which one? LWolf Mar 2014 #54
God bless you for taking the extra effort to care for your mom. totodeinhere Mar 2014 #55
I did mean what is your realistic solution. I think now this babylonsister Mar 2014 #69
A realistic solution LWolf Mar 2014 #70
People really think it's that simple. Puzzledtraveller Mar 2014 #41
Not all people think much or well, lol. nt LWolf Mar 2014 #50
Republicans don't have workable ideas on how to bring down healthcare costs bluestate10 Mar 2014 #25
Thank you!!! nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #26
thanks babylonsister...k&r... spanone Mar 2014 #28
K & R! Iliyah Mar 2014 #30
Yes, run on Obamacare, run on clean air and water, run on regulating the dirty polluters.. mountain grammy Mar 2014 #31
Yea mountain grammy! nt babylonsister Mar 2014 #40
Dems don't usually do that well running in support of corporate Republican policies Doctor_J Mar 2014 #32
amen sister! pastime Mar 2014 #34
Dear Democrats running for office in 2014. You have to make a choice. Blather about the rhett o rick Mar 2014 #36
It's going to be tough to sell that one Doctor_J Mar 2014 #37
Yes. Sigh. So you're angry about that, I trust. nt babylonsister Mar 2014 #42
*forgot to give props to the Heritage Foundation for the blueprint WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #38
And SO? Yawn. Get a grip. nt babylonsister Mar 2014 #39
Sorry, is that news to you? WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #44
The rumor isn't news, but this might be news to you... babylonsister Mar 2014 #48
The idea of an 'individual mandate' originated with the Heritage Foundation AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #57
This is my favorite rebuttal to you WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #61
I've said this from the beginning, it seperates bosses control over their workers healthcare Rex Mar 2014 #45
In ten years GOPers will claim that ACA was theirs Iliyah Mar 2014 #58
Republicans never admit that they have done something wrong, and Democrats apologize when they do yurbud Mar 2014 #59
and when elected find ways to IMPROVE it LynneSin Mar 2014 #60
I believe, don't defend---brag about ACA! lexington filly Mar 2014 #62
Yeah, so quite trying to kill it with ignorance. Cha Mar 2014 #63
I will not run from it BUT I will acknowledge it is not perfect..... Swede Atlanta Mar 2014 #64
exposing the GOP (Republican governors refusing medicaid expansion = death panels) napkinz Mar 2014 #65
House Republicans still trying to repeal Obamacare, 5 million would lose coverage napkinz Mar 2014 #66
Yep. It's a great stick to beat up Republicans with. gulliver Mar 2014 #67
kick napkinz Mar 2014 #68
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