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Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
29. We know, we know. It's the 1st step toward something that resembles health care for all
Sat Mar 22, 2014, 08:33 PM
Mar 2014

It's not the final product. This is the first step. Single payer would NEVER and I do wish to repeat that, NEVER have been approved with the predatory Republican assholes in Congress. EVER. This approximates it. IN fact, I think it's amazing that even this got passed, really. I'm still in shock. I mean, for the first time all those people with pre-existing illnesses can get insured. There are a lot of firsts.

Now it will have to be tweaked until it functions properly

Once it is tweaked (and it will take time) it will be OUR TURN to slowly turn this into a fully single-payer system and take it from the insurance companies. We first need to change the country's mind, turn it from right wing (which it still is - it entered some really sick right wing nightmare in the 80s and it's still very much there).

I totally agree with you that he doesn't control the insurance companies, but he got the darn thing set up, and now we have to move forward with it.


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I understand your point, but in a different connotation, the problem is the ACA isn't simple lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #1
This ProSense Mar 2014 #2
of course it makes sense. cali Mar 2014 #8
"what doesn't make sense is your endless adoration and worship." ProSense Mar 2014 #31
+1000 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #38
faith wasn't derogatory in this instance. I think you would be well served to read more critically. Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #20
It's was. ProSense Mar 2014 #33
That's The Point You Took? ProfessorGAC Mar 2014 #66
A lot of people will be dealing w/insurance companies, and their bullshit, for the first time. arcane1 Mar 2014 #3
Are you saying insurance companies are run by piece of shit used car salesmen? JaneyVee Mar 2014 #4
Well that was a helpful post. nt Mojorabbit Mar 2014 #6
It's just one of those "feel good" posts Autumn Mar 2014 #11
C'mon, its Saturday night. Join me in feeling good. JaneyVee Mar 2014 #16
It is a feel good Saturday. A beautiful snowy day Autumn Mar 2014 #19
Thank You. JaneyVee Mar 2014 #18
No, I would not disparage piece of shit, used car salesmen in such a way as to compare them to those TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #15
No Obama does not control the insurance companies. Obama got the ACA passed Autumn Mar 2014 #5
wOOt! What you said! nt babylonsister Mar 2014 #28
Yup. eom uppityperson Mar 2014 #49
As I've said before, this is a game with opponents. phantom power Mar 2014 #7
Even those of us with so called cadillac plans (code for unionized people) tavalon Mar 2014 #48
Single payer one day, hopefully much sooner than later nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #9
True, ACA isn't perfect. DanTex Mar 2014 #10
This is why a public option is absolutely essential. BrotherIvan Mar 2014 #12
Oh, this thread is talking about the Heritage Foundation model that DUers have been... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #13
No Kidding... Jesus Malverde Mar 2014 #52
Well said. nt Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #58
As far as the last sentence of your post: truedelphi Mar 2014 #14
Bottom line: Obama welshed on the public option he promised.. TransitJohn Mar 2014 #17
+1 Octafish Mar 2014 #56
If insurance companies are involved OwnedByCats Mar 2014 #21
There's another huge problem that you can't blame on the insurance companies pnwmom Mar 2014 #22
I firmly believe... Yogi Mar 2014 #23
Not so much actively evil as just amoral but powerful Fumesucker Mar 2014 #39
Several takes the opportunity to complain about ACA and if these same people Thinkingabout Mar 2014 #24
ACA is not perfect Texasgal Mar 2014 #25
I have never understood why..... lastlib Mar 2014 #26
Because they have the money to take the risks and build the systems necessary to pay claims, etc. Hoyt Mar 2014 #27
They were allowed into Medicare on the premise truebluegreen Mar 2014 #36
We don't really know what it would cost if the government did Admin directly. Hoyt Mar 2014 #37
Actually we have very good information on what it costs truebluegreen Mar 2014 #40
Insurance companies handle claims for traditional Medicare and Medicare Advantage. Hoyt Mar 2014 #44
We're uncivilized and stupid tavalon Mar 2014 #43
We know, we know. It's the 1st step toward something that resembles health care for all Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #29
insurance companies were the problem with health care delivery before, so mandate KG Mar 2014 #30
The problem is the absence of state healthcare, not the presence of insurance companies. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2014 #32
There are so many places we've devolved tavalon Mar 2014 #42
No, I think you have that backwards. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2014 #45
I think we're both right tavalon Mar 2014 #50
Good. joshcryer Mar 2014 #34
There's a bigger cadre of people who shit on the POTUS & make shit up about the ACA KittyWampus Mar 2014 #35
Yep, get those leeches out of healthcare tavalon Mar 2014 #41
bigger problem... only sick people are signing up.... quadrature Mar 2014 #46
The ACA didn't create insurance companies. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #47
It didn't create preexisting conditions either but it correctly eliminated them. TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #53
Corrrect, it improved many things, but not everything. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #54
I wasn't remotely blaming the ACA for insurance companies as you fucking well know cali Mar 2014 #55
Your OP title: "Here's the problem with the ACA. It's simple." JoePhilly Mar 2014 #57
The problem with the Wealth care and Profit Protection Act is the basis of its cure is also the TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #59
The big problem was much BIGGER before the ACA passed. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #69
No, I agreed that the insurance cartel was and remains the big problem TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #74
No, but it entrenched them as a middle-man in health care for all time TransitJohn Mar 2014 #60
And I guess not passing the ACA would have removed the insurance companies, right? JoePhilly Mar 2014 #67
.. TransitJohn Mar 2014 #72
"The ACA didn't create insurance companies." Of course not, where did you get that idea? rhett o rick Mar 2014 #63
The OP claims insurance companies are THE PROBLEM of the ACA. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #68
And isnt that true? The problem with the ACA is that insurance companies rhett o rick Mar 2014 #70
That was a problem before the ACA. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #71
I agree with you. I only objected to your Strawman in post #47. rhett o rick Mar 2014 #73
How to strengthen Obamacare, courtesy of the Progessive Caucus. ProSense Mar 2014 #51
WellPoint Raises 2014 Profit Forecast on New Customer Growth (2) xchrom Mar 2014 #61
These ProSense Mar 2014 #64
Aetna profit rises; company forecasts more Medicare customers in 2014 xchrom Mar 2014 #62
But the law caps their profits. They must spend 85% of the premiums on tblue37 Mar 2014 #65
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