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In reply to the discussion: Here's the problem with the ACA. It's simple. [View all]Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)32. The problem is the absence of state healthcare, not the presence of insurance companies.
As far as I can tell, there's not all that much difference between insurance companies in the US and here in the UK.
But here, it's entirely clear that they're a sophisticated form of bookmaking, not a social service; the entity with responsibility for caring for the sick is the NHS. They're trying to make a profit in an entire legitimate business, and there's nothing unethical about this; it doesn't cause problems because people who aren't happy with what's on offer from the insurance companies can still get perfectly good health care on the NHS.
In the USA, however, you've devolved what should be some of the responsibilities of the state onto private businesses, which are there to make a profit, not to provide a social service - and you're then angry and in some cases bewildered when this doesn't work, and they don't fulfill those responsibilities.
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I understand your point, but in a different connotation, the problem is the ACA isn't simple
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#1
faith wasn't derogatory in this instance. I think you would be well served to read more critically.
Ed Suspicious
Mar 2014
#20
A lot of people will be dealing w/insurance companies, and their bullshit, for the first time.
arcane1
Mar 2014
#3
No, I would not disparage piece of shit, used car salesmen in such a way as to compare them to those
TheKentuckian
Mar 2014
#15
Oh, this thread is talking about the Heritage Foundation model that DUers have been...
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
Mar 2014
#13
Several takes the opportunity to complain about ACA and if these same people
Thinkingabout
Mar 2014
#24
Because they have the money to take the risks and build the systems necessary to pay claims, etc.
Hoyt
Mar 2014
#27
Insurance companies handle claims for traditional Medicare and Medicare Advantage.
Hoyt
Mar 2014
#44
We know, we know. It's the 1st step toward something that resembles health care for all
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#29
The problem is the absence of state healthcare, not the presence of insurance companies.
Donald Ian Rankin
Mar 2014
#32
There's a bigger cadre of people who shit on the POTUS & make shit up about the ACA
KittyWampus
Mar 2014
#35
It didn't create preexisting conditions either but it correctly eliminated them.
TheKentuckian
Mar 2014
#53
I wasn't remotely blaming the ACA for insurance companies as you fucking well know
cali
Mar 2014
#55
The problem with the Wealth care and Profit Protection Act is the basis of its cure is also the
TheKentuckian
Mar 2014
#59
And I guess not passing the ACA would have removed the insurance companies, right?
JoePhilly
Mar 2014
#67
"The ACA didn't create insurance companies." Of course not, where did you get that idea?
rhett o rick
Mar 2014
#63