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In reply to the discussion: Why I became an "Obamabot" [View all]calimary
(89,654 posts)I say again - I'll take a shitty Democrat over ANY republi-CON - ANY day. Yes. It does come down to that. I do NOT want ANY republi-CON in the White House. I do not want ANY republi-CON slithering in because our side couldn't get it together and conquer as a united front. I do NOT want ANY republi-CON picking the next Supreme Court justices. How'd the last couple of rounds work out for everybody, 'eh? You want ANOTHER scalia or thomas or roberts or alito? You REALLY want to risk that? Those bastards are appointed for life, so we're STILL suffering under antonin scalia and fucking damn reagan appointed him! You want the PNAC back in the Defense Department or the National Security Advisor's office? You want the lovers of strip-mining and unrestrained oil drilling and clear-cutting back in the Interior Department? The ramifications of ANY candidate with an "R" after his/her name getting into the Oval Office terrifies me! And if some independent or protest candidate's gonna try to get in there and muck up the works, and thereby take votes away from the leading candidate with the "D" after his/her name and make it more likely that an "R" can slither in, I'm NOT gonna play along!!!! NO MATTER HOW MUCH I ACTUALLY MIGHT LIKE the protest candidate! Yes, like a Bernie Sanders.
All ralph nader did was peel off enough votes from Al Gore here and there to make it close enough for bush/cheney to steal it. THAT is what happened. I don't care how it's rationalized or excused way. THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED. Ross Perot did it to the CONS twice - in 1992 and 1996, taking enough votes away from bush1 and then from Bob Dole so that Bill Clinton won. John Anderson did it to our side when he ran as an independent in the Carter vs reagan election, and that screwed Carter. reagan didn't win by a landslide the first time.
We have to stick to a sure bet if we're gonna keep the White House and protect everything we've all worked for and all the gains we've made over the years. Unfortunately, we don't have a choice. Because the alternative is splintering our voting bloc so the bad guys can slither in while we're busy fighting one another.
Hey, I wish it were different, too! But it isn't. I'm just being realistic. That's what we're stuck with, and that's how we have to win it.