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Cali_Democrat

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Sun Mar 23, 2014, 12:30 AM Mar 2014

Is US espionage against China unconstitutional? [View all]

Last edited Sun Mar 23, 2014, 03:34 AM - Edit history (1)

When Snowden first came to the fore, he revealed information about metadata collection by the NSA. Well actually he just revealed the warrant which turned over metadata from Verizon to the NSA. We've known that the metadata collection program had been going on since 2006:

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-10-nsa_x.htm

Even though a Federal judge signs off on these warrants, I think it's overkill. There's simply no need to have all that data IMO.

But pretty much all of Snowden's revelations since then have been disclosing US espionage against foreign countries from Brazil to Germany to China.

Today it has been revealed that the US spied on the Chinese government as well as a Chinese company:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014762667

Is US espionage against foreign countries constitutional? If it is, why is Snowden revealing this information? BTW, Michelle Obama happens to be in China right now on a goodwill mission....what a coincidence.

Snowden consistently says his purpose is to reveal unconstitutional activities by the US govt. He recently made a video appearance at SXSW 2014 and he even appeared in front of the Constitution:



It's well-known that China spies on the US and steals technology. Should Snowden be revealing US espionage activities against China? I'm assuming he thinks it's unconstitutional?

Is US espionage against foreign countries constitutional? And if it is, why would Snowden reveal this information?

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Anybody? Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #1
My first reaction is that the question is a massive red herring. Bonobo Mar 2014 #2
The OP is questioning what whistle blower value there is to revealing our secrets about cthulu2016 Mar 2014 #7
I apologize for any confusion Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #9
You are dodging the question treestar Mar 2014 #13
Which part of the constitution do you think it violates? BainsBane Mar 2014 #3
It probably is constitutional. Or, to put it a better way, it isn't unconstitutional yet. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #4
Of course not. It also isn't against International Law. If it were, we have hundreds of proven cases okaawhatever Mar 2014 #5
I really don't know the inner workings of Snowden's mind. Liberal Veteran Mar 2014 #6
CIA Vision, Mission & Values Katashi_itto Mar 2014 #8
I have been an avid defender of Snowden. This, IMHO, is one step too far. Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #10
"Our corporations"? Fumesucker Mar 2014 #14
You're reading too much into that phrasing. See my sigline. nt Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #15
What did you mean by "our corporations" then? n/t Fumesucker Mar 2014 #17
Corporations operating under our jurisdiction. nt Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #20
He's in Russia, he's working for them, Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2014 #11
No, but espionage against the United States is. gulliver Mar 2014 #12
What gets me is that the Snowden backers don't think their position through to logical ends. randome Mar 2014 #16
Government spying for national security is one thing Fumesucker Mar 2014 #18
Agree there is a difference. It's unethical. randome Mar 2014 #19
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