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cheapdate

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100. I'm with you on that Andy823.

Sun Mar 23, 2014, 02:42 AM

Mar 2014

I wonder the same thing myself. The administration's accomplishments and positive achievements are always dismissed as smoke screens or distractions, or else as inexcusable failures because the problem (discrimination, poverty, unemployment, etc.) didn't vanish completely from the face of the earth.

The president is in many ways a conventional politician with conventional views on banking and finance, national security, trade policy, etc. That's who he is. His perspective and mine are oceans apart in many places.

But time and time again the president's actions give me a smile and I'm reminded of why I admire this president. For example, I smiled big when the president appointed Natural Resources Defense Council President Frances Beineke to the commission on the BP oil spill. If that alone didn't tell you there's a new sheriff in town, nothing will.

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Why I became an "Obamabot" [View all] sheshe2 Mar 2014 OP

K&R! Whisp Mar 2014 #1

Thanks Whisp! sheshe2 Mar 2014 #35

We worship our politicians too much in this country. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #2

"Politicians and diapers must be changed often" Fumesucker Mar 2014 #3

Good post. woo me with science Mar 2014 #10

"The two parties are largely both owned by the same wealthy elite now." baldguy Mar 2014 #17

Absolutely false. Overall, this country is moving relentlessly in the wrong direction. woo me with science Mar 2014 #52

So you think Barack Obama is the same as Dick Cheney. Or worse. baldguy Mar 2014 #79

pathetic grasswire Mar 2014 #82

The previous poster certainly is. baldguy Mar 2014 #84

name-calling. grasswire Mar 2014 #97

disgusting response, but expected. bobduca Mar 2014 #182

Suffering from a little l'esprit de l'escalier, are we? baldguy Mar 2014 #183

No, more like suffering fools gladly bobduca Mar 2014 #184

I agree with you. Feron Mar 2014 #118

+1000000. Awesome and well articulated post woo me. This should be an OP. n/t GoneFishin Mar 2014 #128

Well said! Mojorabbit Mar 2014 #131

"Corporatists have been installed in virtually every area of government by our Democratic president. cui bono Mar 2014 #156

Succintly put,WMWS. Kurovski Mar 2014 #168

Actions speak louder than words. We should well know that by now. nt snappyturtle Mar 2014 #179

This is one of the best, most succinct, on-point posts truebrit71 Mar 2014 #180

In Agreement psiman Mar 2014 #54

Yes. There's no point in arguing with a political nihislist. cheapdate Mar 2014 #93

The Big Lebowski psiman Mar 2014 #169

Agree! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #98

The two parties are more un-alike than ever before... Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #151

Good post. 840high Mar 2014 #22

Great post, thanks! DevineBovine Mar 2014 #29

Excellent post. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #77

ah Libertarians... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #99

Ahhh... corporatist fascisthunter Mar 2014 #152

You do realize that is not the opposite of Libertarian right? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #154

Good post. bigwillq Mar 2014 #177

This is well written. gulliver Mar 2014 #4

K&R Control-Z Mar 2014 #5

Anyone who continues in unwaivering support when a poltician votes to deny Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #6

Who precisely voted to deny rights to others? frazzled Mar 2014 #7

The author flauts unwaivering support for Wellstone and his DOMA vote Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #8

He was my senator frazzled Mar 2014 #12

Gee thanks for the respectful Straightsplaining!!!! Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #123

Gee, your animus is so helpful frazzled Mar 2014 #133

No, she says she still supports the person sheshe2 Mar 2014 #14

She says her support never wavered. You say 'that's not unwavering' but Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #124

The Obamabots have never come across as issue driven... WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #9

I haven't even read the article, but you are full of babylonsister Mar 2014 #11

Backatcha, babyl-on. (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #13

Great comeback. Derp. nt babylonsister Mar 2014 #25

And a hearty whargarrrbll to you... WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #26

+1000 Andy823 Mar 2014 #18

Andy823, you babylonsister Mar 2014 #23

Thank you Andy. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #39

I'm with you on that Andy823. cheapdate Mar 2014 #100

Its just easier to be Contrarian...then you don't have to do anything... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #101

Cynics hate actual progress. I contradicts their world view. KittyWampus Mar 2014 #121

+2000 treestar Mar 2014 #108

They vote for fail, babylonsister. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #33

I live in North Carolina. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #42

you're going to hate this, but BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2014 #46

Why would I hate that? I want to see him... WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #51

my apologies, then. I misread you. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2014 #71

No apologies necessary, but thanks. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #145

Gotta say sheshe2 Mar 2014 #53

"Negative"? Realistic. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #63

Sadly you misunderstand the "obamabots" sheshe2 Mar 2014 #73

You need to learn to do Obama cheerleading treestar Mar 2014 #110

Why are you assuming I "don't want to talk up ... Obamacare"? WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #146

Are you going to rely on Obama alone? treestar Mar 2014 #167

You need to be making Obamacare positive treestar Mar 2014 #109

I don't and won't. I remember dimson. I am babylonsister Mar 2014 #48

I'd go further. Skidmore Mar 2014 #120

+1000 Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #38

LOL, not reading is your trademark! n-t Logical Mar 2014 #158

Excuse me? Why? You have no babylonsister Mar 2014 #170

Never issue driven? sheshe2 Mar 2014 #16

+1000 nt Andy823 Mar 2014 #19

LOL @ "cry, whine, weep and wail." WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #21

You are correct sheshe2 Mar 2014 #28

Don't waste your time; that babylonsister Mar 2014 #50

Okay, breath out. Sigh~ sheshe2 Mar 2014 #55

Make a new thread for this one-perfect!! DU can do a lot of good, and babylonsister Mar 2014 #57

I think I will, I found a few others to add! sheshe2 Mar 2014 #60

That poster is mistaking themself for others. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2014 #24

Try to understand and get the nuance on the issue treestar Mar 2014 #111

The blogger never said she would support issues that she otherwise would not support DebJ Mar 2014 #89

As it said, no two people agree about everything treestar Mar 2014 #106

K & R Iliyah Mar 2014 #15

Blah. blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #20

Yup! sheshe2 Mar 2014 #74

Not just that. We already tried the "Nader tactic" - voting against the Democrats Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #27

Blaming those who voted for Nader is such a tired trope. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #31

Are you kidding? It's deja vu all over again. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #32

Party loyalty only matters if the party is reflecting your values. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #34

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #36

Doing the right thing and expecting others to join you is not a sign of mental disturbance... Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #40

Again, doing the failed thing a second time, is just stupid and damaging. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #44

So if doing the right thing fails, according to your logic, it was the wrong thing? That's absurd. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #45

Sorry, I'm not willing to sacrifice my country. Your desire to put Repukes in office out of spite Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #62

Are you accusing me of trying to put Republicans in office? Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #64

GravityCollapse, with all due respect.... I've seen you on here a lot and though DebJ Mar 2014 #90

That will be a question that I can only answer next election cycle. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #92

Thanks for an honest answer! More participation in the primaries is definitely a needed focus. DebJ Mar 2014 #95

That's what you have to do in politics treestar Mar 2014 #116

You are dodging the issue by playing the victim treestar Mar 2014 #115

I could only play the victim card if I supported Nader. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #162

Accusing? I'm telling you that's what the Naderite tactic did, and this is Part 2 of Naderiting Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #140

People who voted for Nader wanted him to win. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #160

preposterous assertion. nt grasswire Mar 2014 #94

Not at all. The Naderite tactic has been tried and brought us nothing but crap Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #139

I think this conversation would work better if you weren't so condescending. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #163

And gets you a republi-CON back in the White House. calimary Mar 2014 #59

I agree. Any Democrat, any day. The Repukes created a horror in this country Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #61

Politics is about coalitions treestar Mar 2014 #114

Thread win. nt Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #41

Exactly, the Democrats do not adquately reflect the values of a group of voters Fumesucker Mar 2014 #107

Notice how pompous that post was treestar Mar 2014 #113

Okay, explain in detail please. There's clearly something I'm missing. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #138

Right not I'm not sure what I meant treestar Mar 2014 #166

Everyone has values which they vote by. Republicans and Tea Partiers... Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #164

Gore had to reflect their values? treestar Mar 2014 #112

Britney was a Bushbot WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #30

Used to mean something like being a mindless worker. Lars39 Mar 2014 #43

It's a pet name that the right and a few here have given us. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #49

I'm not an Obamabot! WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #56

Oh, I dunno.. Glenn Greenwald started hurling that at Obama Supporters and Cha Mar 2014 #69

Obama is better than the alternative, much better. I do not regret my vote. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2014 #37

Well, you have to call us as you see us, guess Obamabot for me. Thinkingabout Mar 2014 #47

That's called trust; I have it also, and it's a fine thing. nt babylonsister Mar 2014 #58

Fair enough. Call me an Obamabot, too. calimary Mar 2014 #66

smartypants Nails It, she! Cha Mar 2014 #65

Thank you so much Cha. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #76

Yeah, all they have are little snerk bombs.. talking about "admitting it is the first step" when Cha Mar 2014 #83

This is my last post! sheshe2 Mar 2014 #86

Good NIght, she! Cha Mar 2014 #88

''Bots'' by its very name means to...... DeSwiss Mar 2014 #67

Good post. (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #68

Well good for you for supporting that statement. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #75

From the first big speech Obama made at the convention, I concluded a few things. DebJ Mar 2014 #91

When making a tough call, like assassinating US citizens overseas. PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #70

Admitting the problem is the first step. U4ikLefty Mar 2014 #72

The suffix "-bot" is akin to someone who doesn't think. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #78

Like the automatic criticism of everything our Democratic President does? baldguy Mar 2014 #80

If you're talking about me, you're mistaken. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #81

True, and they'd probably be displeased if we came up with a name for them! treestar Mar 2014 #117

or knee jerk reactions to criticism fascisthunter Mar 2014 #155

or sourcing that criticism verbatim from extremist RW libertarians baldguy Mar 2014 #157

A good example of how a sheep-like obedient and trusting bot thinks: quinnox Mar 2014 #85

Sadly you missed the point entirely. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #87

Did the blogger get her fairy wand yet? nt grasswire Mar 2014 #96

LOL She sounds like she's sitting around the lunch table... WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #149

I have never been able to take that blogger seriously... grasswire Mar 2014 #150

Ah. I forgot about that. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #159

I missed that one. grasswire Mar 2014 #165

Actually she did get her wish. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #171

to improve things, vote for something, not just to keep the opposite party out of office. politicman Mar 2014 #102

That comes from having the attitude that votes are a resource to be harvested, Maedhros Mar 2014 #181

My problem is that unlike the author, I am aligned on very little with the President cali Mar 2014 #103

Accepting the "bot" label is not a smart move. Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #104

Exactly treestar Mar 2014 #105

Spoken like a true repuke "what are their values, what is their decision-making process" Corruption Inc Mar 2014 #119

Not really. Who is your favorite politician? CJCRANE Mar 2014 #173

Fully agree!! philosslayer Mar 2014 #122

The 'bots' were the folks who were againt marriage equality when Obama Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #125

Exactly. Puglover Mar 2014 #127

+1 Marr Mar 2014 #130

Amen! QC Mar 2014 #132

Exactly. I'll never forget those "evolution" threads. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #147

I will never understand why someone would be proud of refusing to use critical thinking skills. Rex Mar 2014 #153

Good post. bigwillq Mar 2014 #178

k&r... spanone Mar 2014 #126

"...they think we support the President solely based on his position on issues". Nnnno. Marr Mar 2014 #129

Sounds like the Snowden/Greenwald worshippers. nt BumRushDaShow Mar 2014 #134

Hmm. Marr Mar 2014 #135

They don't "support". They worship. nt BumRushDaShow Mar 2014 #136

That makes even less sense. Marr Mar 2014 #141

Correct. BumRushDaShow Mar 2014 #142

A clique that formed around a nameless, wholly unspectactular IT guy. Marr Mar 2014 #143

Exactly right. Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #144

Translation: When actions cannot be reconciled with my values I dig for excuses and declare them TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #137

Apparently 'cults of personalities' are allowed for other personalities but not the Pres. Whisp Mar 2014 #148

well, then, Mr. Pitt must deserve a protected forum of his own. grasswire Mar 2014 #161

How did I miss this thead? Reporting for the list! n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #172

Thanks Freshwest! sheshe2 Mar 2014 #175

Wow - and to think I almost missed this. Thanks for the OP and link. IrishAyes Mar 2014 #174

Luv ya Irish! sheshe2 Mar 2014 #176