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In reply to the discussion: You are either a Freeper or a Purity-Test Democrat [View all]woo me with science
(32,139 posts)55. Another attempt to make "Third Way" an epithet, I see.
I've written about this tactic before. There have been repeated attempts here to recast both the words "authoritarian" and "Third Way" as epithets, rather than the clearly defined and useful adjectives they are. Of course the goal is to discredit their accurate use to describe both policies and political views on this board. As a matter of course, those who reliably espouse both authoritarian and Third Way policies don't like that fact pointed out.
The attempt to discredit useful terms: "authoritarian" and "Third Way"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3171893
...Authoritarians don't like being called what they are, and since they can't yet prohibit words and restrict others to an approved Newspeak Dictionary, they settle for flailing at and attempting to discredit the individual words they dislike.
This tactic...is most amusing in one-to-one settings. When someone uses an accurate word to describe what you are doing or advocating, just put the word in quotation marks, add some exclamation points, and try to neutralize it by pretending it's an epithet instead of an accurate descriptor. We have all seen it here 1,000 times. A person's politics are described as Third Way, and he or she rears up in indignation, expressing shock at the "namecalling."
Well, no. "Third Way" means something. It is not an epithet, but rather descriptive shorthand for a clear and specific set of political values and policies. You can see what "Third Way" means by going to the Third Way website, where the goals and policies - liberal on the social issues unimportant to the One Percent but corporate and authoritarian on virtually everything else - are clearly delineated.
Those who embrace and defend Third Way policies don't want to admit it, so they try to make the term an epithet...something to be dismissed as namecalling or even banned by a jury so that it can't be accurately applied to them on the forums. And now we are hearing the same sort of defensive attempts to discredit the word when authoritarianism is called "authoritarianism."
Of course "authoritarian" means something. Brazen defense of a government's spying on its own citizens is indisputably authoritarian.
I always picture an indignant poodle rearing up in outrage and exclaiming, "What?! You called me a DOG?!"
Orwell was right. Defending against authoritarianism *requires* defending language, because authoritarians will try to twist, discredit, or take away the words that are necessary for us to describe what is being done to us.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3171893
...Authoritarians don't like being called what they are, and since they can't yet prohibit words and restrict others to an approved Newspeak Dictionary, they settle for flailing at and attempting to discredit the individual words they dislike.
This tactic...is most amusing in one-to-one settings. When someone uses an accurate word to describe what you are doing or advocating, just put the word in quotation marks, add some exclamation points, and try to neutralize it by pretending it's an epithet instead of an accurate descriptor. We have all seen it here 1,000 times. A person's politics are described as Third Way, and he or she rears up in indignation, expressing shock at the "namecalling."
Well, no. "Third Way" means something. It is not an epithet, but rather descriptive shorthand for a clear and specific set of political values and policies. You can see what "Third Way" means by going to the Third Way website, where the goals and policies - liberal on the social issues unimportant to the One Percent but corporate and authoritarian on virtually everything else - are clearly delineated.
Those who embrace and defend Third Way policies don't want to admit it, so they try to make the term an epithet...something to be dismissed as namecalling or even banned by a jury so that it can't be accurately applied to them on the forums. And now we are hearing the same sort of defensive attempts to discredit the word when authoritarianism is called "authoritarianism."
Of course "authoritarian" means something. Brazen defense of a government's spying on its own citizens is indisputably authoritarian.
I always picture an indignant poodle rearing up in outrage and exclaiming, "What?! You called me a DOG?!"
Orwell was right. Defending against authoritarianism *requires* defending language, because authoritarians will try to twist, discredit, or take away the words that are necessary for us to describe what is being done to us.
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Hillary did. That is my reason for never supporting her. My conscience wouldn't allow it. There are
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#90
This garbage again, implying that putting SS cuts on the table has done no harm?
woo me with science
Mar 2014
#69
Or temporarily removing them during election season because they are so UNPOPULAR with voters
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#82
This site was started to fight Republicans. Why did Obama appoint so many Republicans to his cabinet
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#26
I have not read it. But I know what it is about. Lincoln appointed some of his rivals to his
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#50
No, it is not within the power of the President to add more justices to the SC. Congress,
kelly1mm
Mar 2014
#49
It's the *definition* of guilt by association. What's your smear here, Josh?
woo me with science
Mar 2014
#65
You cannot be discredited here by ANYONE calling themselves a Democrat so I wouldn't worry about it,
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#80
Do Purity-Test Democrats have to attend some kind of a Ball? If so, do they have a choice who
adirondacker
Mar 2014
#30
the third way wants unicorns and ponies, all manufactured in low wage Asian sweatshops
pragmatic_dem
Mar 2014
#86