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Harmony Blue

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174. Shaming tactics don't work

Sun Mar 23, 2014, 09:30 AM

Mar 2014

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/05/18/336051/-Prominent-NEOCON-endorses-Hillary-Clinton

Just because one holds a political position does not mean it extends to all issues.

Clinton is considered a Neo Con or more accurately a center left Democrats of the DLC. And yet she is 100% for women's rights.

Lack of critical thinking skills is so evident it is quite sad.

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It�s Time to End �Rape Culture� Hysteria [View all] AngryAmish Mar 2014 OP

This JustAnotherGen Mar 2014 #1

Typical, isn't it? nt redqueen Mar 2014 #14

Yep. theHandpuppet Mar 2014 #21

angry is letting us women know how hysterical we are talking about the rape culture? nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #29

People need to see marions ghost Mar 2014 #156

Yeppers! JustAnotherGen Mar 2014 #23

our basic right to be free from BainsBane Mar 2014 #58

Oh, my. You, my dear JustAnotherGen, deserve a star. nt Zorra Mar 2014 #33

I'd like to know why such fascist garbage is posted on DU Warpy Mar 2014 #78

I think the OP was dissing... malokvale77 Mar 2014 #86

^this^ JustAnotherGen Mar 2014 #87

Would be better to make it more obvious. cui bono Mar 2014 #139

I know... malokvale77 Mar 2014 #168

Hello! noiretextatique Mar 2014 #106

Exactly! Nothing else need be said. She's a neo-con supporting her misogynist RW pals nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #144

"Time" and other MSM will support capitalism and the patriarchy. Ron Green Mar 2014 #2

�Rape is as American as apple pie,� add ala mode. too clever, and we are only talking rape. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #3

Wow, you couldn't get a more right-wing source gollygee Mar 2014 #4

Um, no. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2014 #5

Define "drunk" derby378 Mar 2014 #7

Here we go again. redqueen Mar 2014 #16

All I know as the husband of a rape survivor is that if she doesn't consent, then that's that derby378 Mar 2014 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author Squinch Mar 2014 #76

Just saw your other post, so I'm self deleting comments trying to get you to rethink this position. Squinch Mar 2014 #82

legally no it isn't qazplm Mar 2014 #26

You've (unwittingly?) provided chervilant Mar 2014 #151

I don't blame survivors or victims. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2014 #152

You might appreciate chervilant Mar 2014 #153

Rape is not an act of passion, it is an act of violence. Thinkingabout Mar 2014 #6

Not violence, but power derby378 Mar 2014 #8

You're kidding right? ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #11

See #7 (n/t) derby378 Mar 2014 #17

I'll repeat .. 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #34

These kinds of threads never fail redqueen Mar 2014 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author Squinch Mar 2014 #79

Shit like Derby's post almost makes me ashamed to post on DU Scootaloo Mar 2014 #130

derby has seen the light and made a public acknowledgment of it. Please see link: cui bono Mar 2014 #150

I can't do it ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #159

+1 ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #20

Yes there are .. 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #32

Oh... wow... I thought I was on DU! cui bono Mar 2014 #141

Let me explain something to you... one_voice Mar 2014 #37

Well, goooooolly, as if I couldn't have figured that out by myself derby378 Mar 2014 #40

You keep believing that... one_voice Mar 2014 #41

Sorry, but as I said many times before, I'm not politically correct derby378 Mar 2014 #42

You can leave out "politically". You're simply "not correct". nt Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author LanternWaste Mar 2014 #54

It's violent to stick your body parts into the body parts of a passed out person. cyberswede Mar 2014 #47

You are right derby378 Mar 2014 #49

I appreciate your reply. cyberswede Mar 2014 #60

... redqueen Mar 2014 #62

That opportunist punk kid is a violent predator BainsBane Mar 2014 #73

violence.. to impose your will on another is violence SQUEE Mar 2014 #50

Well said - and you might want to read this derby378 Mar 2014 #52

I did SQUEE Mar 2014 #53

Rape is not a violent act? You seriously believe that? Spazito Mar 2014 #59

Rape is an act of violence BainsBane Mar 2014 #70

I think you're late catching up - best take a look at this thread on GD derby378 Mar 2014 #96

You're serious, aren't you? Scootaloo Mar 2014 #131

Sounds like the same bullshit our local MRA's spread Ohio Joe Mar 2014 #9

Yep. Iggo Mar 2014 #12

Totally agree. nt laundry_queen Mar 2014 #148

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ redqueen Mar 2014 #18

i agree ohio joe. thank you for pointing this out. again. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #22

so true La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2014 #171

"Censorship and hysteria." Brickbat Mar 2014 #10

"Hysteria"? Iggo Mar 2014 #13

my first thought as well. PeaceNikki Mar 2014 #93

And a mighty whistle blows... myrna minx Mar 2014 #15

fail G_j Mar 2014 #24

What a pile of horseshit Blecht Mar 2014 #25

Lol, what rape culture? Lunacee_2013 Mar 2014 #27

"Time" apparently thinks it can provide a sheen of respectability bullwinkle428 Mar 2014 #28

do you support this article angry? is that why you posted it? if you do not come back on the OP seabeyond Mar 2014 #30

I don't appreciate the innuendo AngryAmish Mar 2014 #35

Your comment at the end does not stand out redqueen Mar 2014 #39

No innuendo. I flat out asked. I feel it is better to ask than blindly accuse. seabeyond Mar 2014 #46

Actually, it wasn't clear to those of us Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2014 #67

First time I looked at the OP I thought it was a serious post in agreement of the oped posted. cui bono Mar 2014 #145

Why are RW memes being pushed here? hlthe2b Mar 2014 #31

Rhetorical question? Zorra Mar 2014 #36

Giving... hlthe2b Mar 2014 #44

The end of his OP SQUEE Mar 2014 #51

Apparently edited to add from original posting... hlthe2b Mar 2014 #56

not to pick nits, SQUEE Mar 2014 #57

edit history no longer shows up if edited in the first 1/2 hour (or longer) of posting. hlthe2b Mar 2014 #61

I stand corrected. SQUEE Mar 2014 #65

no problems... hlthe2b Mar 2014 #66

Yes it, does, it just doesn't display the red edited text PeaceNikki Mar 2014 #101

Try it on your own posts... In reality if you edit within the 30 min window hlthe2b Mar 2014 #110

giving it a go, here. now editing. meh... i am not seeing anywhere it is showing i can see seabeyond Mar 2014 #114

Bottom of the page... countryjake Mar 2014 #116

Thank you. I thought I had seen it in the past. But I could not find it anywhere on my post. seabeyond Mar 2014 #119

OT.... hlthe2b Mar 2014 #117

Hl, it was so much fun I am gonna have to take another trip. seabeyond Mar 2014 #118

there were no edits AngryAmish Mar 2014 #154

Trolls R Us. Squinch Mar 2014 #120

Yep. Men don't become rapists, they're born rapists. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #45

Do you know jamzrockz Mar 2014 #128

Soccer coach convicted raping an unconscious 16 yr old in California, 1 yr. Montana, seabeyond Mar 2014 #133

I would like to see links to the original stories if you have it jamzrockz Mar 2014 #140

You sound a tad sincere in a whole lot of unaware and uneducated in this subject. ALL these seabeyond Mar 2014 #142

What is your intention with this OP? cyberswede Mar 2014 #48

Don't forget, everyone has an agenda jollyreaper2112 Mar 2014 #55

Nope, it's still time to end RAPE CULTURE. nt LumosMaxima Mar 2014 #63

More complaining that the feminists are winning treestar Mar 2014 #64

Ah, the world must've settled down enough so that it's time to flood GD with rape shit eom TransitJohn Mar 2014 #68

That is a good article Harmony Blue Mar 2014 #69

It is an extreme RW article from the right-wing Enterprise Insitute BainsBane Mar 2014 #71

+100 theHandpuppet Mar 2014 #81

I stand with RAINN Harmony Blue Mar 2014 #108

Since when? BainsBane Mar 2014 #111

So you are against RAINN Harmony Blue Mar 2014 #173

Agreed. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #74

Which has been said by nobody here, ever. Squinch Mar 2014 #121

Right. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #146

Link or sink, my friend. I've never seen her say anything of the sort. Squinch Mar 2014 #155

link it.... should be simple enough. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #157

Saving this post in case: Starry Messenger Mar 2014 #75

I think you mean "The Bell CURVE" PassingFair Mar 2014 #80

Thank you! Goodness, I always do that and usually catch it. Starry Messenger Mar 2014 #95

an article BainsBane Mar 2014 #84

That would be consistent and the two that jumped on is just par. Nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #85

Well... malokvale77 Mar 2014 #88

Why do you care where "rape culture" originates from when you don't care that this article cui bono Mar 2014 #138

You typed "hysteria" at the end of the header for some reason. KamaAina Mar 2014 #72

Right wing garbage. Jamastiene Mar 2014 #77

Yesterday, Time gave us some bullshit piece about "welfare queens." Today Time gives us Squinch Mar 2014 #83

I believe the point is to inform... malokvale77 Mar 2014 #89

True. Sometimes that is the point. But sometimes the point Squinch Mar 2014 #94

The phrase "rape culture" is a misnomer. WatermelonRat Mar 2014 #90

Very good point. Rape enabling culture. Very good way at clearing a visual of what is being said seabeyond Mar 2014 #91

I think that's a much better description Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #92

I agree with this 100%, to be honest. AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #103

If this culture gave a shit about rape BainsBane Mar 2014 #112

Unrec. cui bono Mar 2014 #97

Why does it have to be either/or? Can't it be both cultural factors *and* individuals nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #98

Really? "Meanwhile, a growing number of young men find themselves charged with rape, named publicly Iris Mar 2014 #99

Shhh. Mariana Mar 2014 #104

Calling it "rape culture" avoids the root causes davidn3600 Mar 2014 #100

I think I see where you're coming from. AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #102

Feminists like to link the ideas of rape and sex noiretextatique Mar 2014 #109

you sure mercuryblues Mar 2014 #115

Ya. I wasn't gonna waste the time but, wrong wrong wrong pretty well says it. seabeyond Mar 2014 #122

Wow. You know absolutely nothing about this, don't you? Squinch Mar 2014 #123

Actually I do... davidn3600 Mar 2014 #125

. Squinch Mar 2014 #126

Whatever... davidn3600 Mar 2014 #127

Your posts continually attack feminists. Consistently. Don't bother wrapping it up in academics. seabeyond Mar 2014 #129

I criticize a certain type of feminism that is quite prevalent here davidn3600 Mar 2014 #132

Nothing is a surprise in your post. Feminist bad. No rape culture. We get it seabeyond Mar 2014 #134

Like I said... everyone has a different opinion... davidn3600 Mar 2014 #135

You are a man.... That can not see. True enough. Nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #136

Do you have a citation for "Feminists like to link the ideas of rape and sex"? cui bono Mar 2014 #137

Like I said..... davidn3600 Mar 2014 #147

I agree rape is violence. That doesn't negate that there is a rape culture. cui bono Mar 2014 #149

cui. excellent post. i go so tired of continually breaking down what is put out. but... seabeyond Mar 2014 #158

How many murder cases do you suppose have evidence just rotting away untouched on the shelves? rrneck Mar 2014 #160

"Percent of Offenses Cleared by Arrest or Exceptional Means" cui bono Mar 2014 #162

I expect that evidence was collected rrneck Mar 2014 #164

I still don't see the connection. cui bono Mar 2014 #165

As is a lot of evidence of other crimes. rrneck Mar 2014 #166

That's what the rape kit is, evidence. cui bono Mar 2014 #167

That's a lot of words that boil down to, "No, I have no citation for feminists linking rape and sex" Squinch Mar 2014 #172

Yet another reason mythology Mar 2014 #105

What in THE hell? n/t Aerows Mar 2014 #107

This is rape culture BainsBane Mar 2014 #113

"To fix the problem you have to name the problem..." rrneck Mar 2014 #124

What would you name it? cui bono Mar 2014 #161

I haven't decided yet. rrneck Mar 2014 #163

She did: Rape culture BainsBane Mar 2014 #169

Ply us not with youth tautology. rrneck Mar 2014 #170

The writer of this article, Caroline Kitchens, is a NEO-CON Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #143

Shaming tactics don't work Harmony Blue Mar 2014 #174

The need right now is to rid ourselves of Republicans, and weakening them. Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #175