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JoePhilly

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57. Your OP title: "Here's the problem with the ACA. It's simple."

Sun Mar 23, 2014, 09:37 AM

Mar 2014

Then you say this ...

DISCLAIMER: Yes I support the ACA. Yes, I hope it helps a lot of people get needed medical care.

The problem: Insurance companies. They will look for any loophole in order to be more profitable.

See the second sentence there ... the one that says "The Problem: Insurance companies."

This is what YOU wrote. Its not dishonest to quote your own words back to you.

It is dishonest to act like you didn't say them.

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Here's the problem with the ACA. It's simple. [View all] cali Mar 2014 OP

I understand your point, but in a different connotation, the problem is the ACA isn't simple lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #1

This ProSense Mar 2014 #2

of course it makes sense. cali Mar 2014 #8

"what doesn't make sense is your endless adoration and worship." ProSense Mar 2014 #31

+1000 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #38

faith wasn't derogatory in this instance. I think you would be well served to read more critically. Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #20

It's was. ProSense Mar 2014 #33

That's The Point You Took? ProfessorGAC Mar 2014 #66

A lot of people will be dealing w/insurance companies, and their bullshit, for the first time. arcane1 Mar 2014 #3

Are you saying insurance companies are run by piece of shit used car salesmen? JaneyVee Mar 2014 #4

Well that was a helpful post. nt Mojorabbit Mar 2014 #6

It's just one of those "feel good" posts Autumn Mar 2014 #11

C'mon, its Saturday night. Join me in feeling good. JaneyVee Mar 2014 #16

It is a feel good Saturday. A beautiful snowy day Autumn Mar 2014 #19

Thank You. JaneyVee Mar 2014 #18

No, I would not disparage piece of shit, used car salesmen in such a way as to compare them to those TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #15

No Obama does not control the insurance companies. Obama got the ACA passed Autumn Mar 2014 #5

wOOt! What you said! nt babylonsister Mar 2014 #28

Yup. eom uppityperson Mar 2014 #49

As I've said before, this is a game with opponents. phantom power Mar 2014 #7

Even those of us with so called cadillac plans (code for unionized people) tavalon Mar 2014 #48

Single payer one day, hopefully much sooner than later nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #9

True, ACA isn't perfect. DanTex Mar 2014 #10

This is why a public option is absolutely essential. BrotherIvan Mar 2014 #12

Oh, this thread is talking about the Heritage Foundation model that DUers have been... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #13

No Kidding... Jesus Malverde Mar 2014 #52

Well said. nt Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #58

As far as the last sentence of your post: truedelphi Mar 2014 #14

Bottom line: Obama welshed on the public option he promised.. TransitJohn Mar 2014 #17

+1 Octafish Mar 2014 #56

If insurance companies are involved OwnedByCats Mar 2014 #21

There's another huge problem that you can't blame on the insurance companies pnwmom Mar 2014 #22

I firmly believe... Yogi Mar 2014 #23

Not so much actively evil as just amoral but powerful Fumesucker Mar 2014 #39

Several takes the opportunity to complain about ACA and if these same people Thinkingabout Mar 2014 #24

ACA is not perfect Texasgal Mar 2014 #25

I have never understood why..... lastlib Mar 2014 #26

Because they have the money to take the risks and build the systems necessary to pay claims, etc. Hoyt Mar 2014 #27

They were allowed into Medicare on the premise truebluegreen Mar 2014 #36

We don't really know what it would cost if the government did Admin directly. Hoyt Mar 2014 #37

Actually we have very good information on what it costs truebluegreen Mar 2014 #40

Insurance companies handle claims for traditional Medicare and Medicare Advantage. Hoyt Mar 2014 #44

We're uncivilized and stupid tavalon Mar 2014 #43

We know, we know. It's the 1st step toward something that resembles health care for all Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #29

insurance companies were the problem with health care delivery before, so mandate KG Mar 2014 #30

The problem is the absence of state healthcare, not the presence of insurance companies. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2014 #32

There are so many places we've devolved tavalon Mar 2014 #42

No, I think you have that backwards. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2014 #45

I think we're both right tavalon Mar 2014 #50

Good. joshcryer Mar 2014 #34

There's a bigger cadre of people who shit on the POTUS & make shit up about the ACA KittyWampus Mar 2014 #35

Yep, get those leeches out of healthcare tavalon Mar 2014 #41

bigger problem... only sick people are signing up.... quadrature Mar 2014 #46

The ACA didn't create insurance companies. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #47

It didn't create preexisting conditions either but it correctly eliminated them. TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #53

Corrrect, it improved many things, but not everything. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #54

I wasn't remotely blaming the ACA for insurance companies as you fucking well know cali Mar 2014 #55

Your OP title: "Here's the problem with the ACA. It's simple." JoePhilly Mar 2014 #57

The problem with the Wealth care and Profit Protection Act is the basis of its cure is also the TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #59

The big problem was much BIGGER before the ACA passed. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #69

No, I agreed that the insurance cartel was and remains the big problem TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #74

No, but it entrenched them as a middle-man in health care for all time TransitJohn Mar 2014 #60

And I guess not passing the ACA would have removed the insurance companies, right? JoePhilly Mar 2014 #67

.. TransitJohn Mar 2014 #72

"The ACA didn't create insurance companies." Of course not, where did you get that idea? rhett o rick Mar 2014 #63

The OP claims insurance companies are THE PROBLEM of the ACA. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #68

And isnt that true? The problem with the ACA is that insurance companies rhett o rick Mar 2014 #70

That was a problem before the ACA. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #71

I agree with you. I only objected to your Strawman in post #47. rhett o rick Mar 2014 #73

How to strengthen Obamacare, courtesy of the Progessive Caucus. ProSense Mar 2014 #51

WellPoint Raises 2014 Profit Forecast on New Customer Growth (2) xchrom Mar 2014 #61

These ProSense Mar 2014 #64

Aetna profit rises; company forecasts more Medicare customers in 2014 xchrom Mar 2014 #62

But the law caps their profits. They must spend 85% of the premiums on tblue37 Mar 2014 #65