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rhett o rick

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38. In 2002 Bush/Cheney were blatantly lying to get us in a war. Anyone with half

Sun Mar 23, 2014, 10:35 AM

Mar 2014

a brain could see thru the lies. Ms. Clinton is very intelligent and not fooled by the very clumsy attempt. At the time I was counting on Democrats to stand up for reason. Instead 29 Democratic Senators groveled before King Bush and gave him authority to go to war. The result may never be cleansed from our collective souls. How many tens of thousands of innocent children were brutally killed. Thousands of our soldiers lives were taken or ruined. It was a tool the 1% used to transfer trillions of the wealth from the lower classes to themselves. Why did these 29 Senators abandon their principles and their constituents and betray us? If you have an answer better than political expediency let me know. We knew Bush was lying and we relied on Democrats to at least speak out.

In any event I made a pledge then that I would never support those that betrayed their principles, their constituents, their country, their troops, the innocent people of Iraq, even if I am offered candy or a Supreme Court Justice. One has to hold to their principles at some point.

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What troubles me most about a Hillary Clinton Presidency, is foreign policy [View all] cali Mar 2014 OP

A hawkish stance in D.C. toward Iran only emboldens the hawks in Teheran. K&R. Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #1

I just don't want to go further down said road. cali Mar 2014 #2

Yes, because allowing them to continue with their nuclear plans is a good option. Beacool Mar 2014 #66

The people of Iran have given peace a chance by electing Rohani. Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #74

Their stance is the same. Beacool Mar 2014 #75

Not really. The OP kind of demonstrates that. Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #77

In my personal opinion, truebluegreen Mar 2014 #79

I am not enthused by her potential candidacy at all. mazzarro Mar 2014 #3

K&R. JDPriestly Mar 2014 #4

Don't repeat the mistakes of Republicans Trust Buster Mar 2014 #5

Oh, I agree with you that the SCOTUS is vitally important cali Mar 2014 #6

So you're willing to accept a Republican President resetting the Court are you ? Trust Buster Mar 2014 #7

The topic of this thread is Hilary Clinton, foreign policy & war. Divernan Mar 2014 #8

Perhaps you should read more carefully..... Trust Buster Mar 2014 #12

She voted for Iraq. Her record and her words contradict YOU cali Mar 2014 #15

What part of "I'll hold my nose and vote for her if she's the nominee" is cali Mar 2014 #13

giggle fadedrose Mar 2014 #57

That's an absurd question. nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #31

...because "Democrats - We Suck Less" makes for such a nice bumper sticker. L0oniX Mar 2014 #35

No, being a pragmatist enables me to recognize....... Trust Buster Mar 2014 #39

...and it's always dark just before the light too. Pffft L0oniX Mar 2014 #41

Welcome back! morningfog Mar 2014 #83

Rang your bell, too...eh? bullwinkle428 Mar 2014 #88

cali stated unambiguously that if Clinton is the nominee she will vote for her. 11 Bravo Mar 2014 #65

Thank you Trust Buster. The felonious five think asjr Mar 2014 #23

Like Right wing extremists...... Trust Buster Mar 2014 #30

At some point we must stop "settling" for the lesser of evils. The middle class can not survive rhett o rick Mar 2014 #25

''I think a women's mentality is quite different than that of a man with regards to matters of war.' Whisp Mar 2014 #97

12 seconds that define Secretary of State Clinton Jesus Malverde Mar 2014 #9

That is so creepy, so unsettling. Whisp Mar 2014 #33

She was being sarcastic. Beacool Mar 2014 #68

Where Hillary lost me was right after she was elected Senator. zeemike Mar 2014 #10

Amen, Amen yellowwoodII Mar 2014 #11

She voted for the IWR 90-percent Mar 2014 #14

I wish Hillary was the right candidate. She would win easily. But she is wrong for the nation. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #16

I won't criticize you for that decision cali Mar 2014 #18

Whatever......... Beacool Mar 2014 #69

seeing as it's only Hillary that is supposedly running now, of course the numbers will be with her Whisp Mar 2014 #99

A lot of blah, blah that go against the facts on the ground. Beacool Mar 2014 #101

of course, Whisp Mar 2014 #103

Because you people keep repeating yourselves. Beacool Mar 2014 #106

You People... Whisp Mar 2014 #107

Today Hillary was praising Jeb Bush for the job he has done on education. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #108

DLC ellennelle Mar 2014 #17

Indeed ...it is pathetic. L0oniX Mar 2014 #34

The Hitler Thing nationalize the fed Mar 2014 #19

Hello, nationalize the fed. While I was typing my respnse to the OP (below)... truth2power Mar 2014 #24

Welcome to DU ...and ^^^this^^^ should be its own op. L0oniX Mar 2014 #32

Comparing ProSense Mar 2014 #37

The analogy was correct. Beacool Mar 2014 #70

+a zillion Thank you! truebluegreen Mar 2014 #80

From her own mouth, "We came, we saw, he died. *cackle, cackle*."... truth2power Mar 2014 #20

yes. a heartsick yes cali Mar 2014 #21

One thing does not negate the other. Beacool Mar 2014 #71

so the fuck what. as if she hasn't supported monsters. as if the U.S. hasn't supported cali Mar 2014 #81

Your rudeness bores me. Beacool Mar 2014 #87

I have no patience for anything but facts and opinion based on facts. cali Mar 2014 #90

Yeah, go with the adoration nonsense. Beacool Mar 2014 #94

What troubles me is that we need to worry about 2014, not 2016 Glitterati Mar 2014 #22

We need to worry about both. It is not too soon to try to derail the Clinton-Sachs train. nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #27

I think I addressed that in the OP cali Mar 2014 #28

I don't think you did Glitterati Mar 2014 #29

Just what we need.... a Walmart Board Director. Fuddnik Mar 2014 #26

There is a lot of pick from, but for me it was Tuzla Whisp Mar 2014 #36

A lot of B.S. in what you wrote. Beacool Mar 2014 #93

if she is, I'll show up at the polls to vote down the ballot, but I'll leave that one unmarked. 2banon Mar 2014 #102

In 2002 Bush/Cheney were blatantly lying to get us in a war. Anyone with half rhett o rick Mar 2014 #38

Absolutism has always been a losing proposition in the political arena.... Trust Buster Mar 2014 #40

I am not sure if you are calling me an extremists or not and it isnt a fact that rhett o rick Mar 2014 #42

Really ? Trust Buster Mar 2014 #44

Well I didnt miss it. I was there. Hundreds of thousands marched in protest in cities like NY rhett o rick Mar 2014 #45

Check out my Pew Research link Trust Buster Mar 2014 #46

72% sounds like a bogus high number. Whisp Mar 2014 #105

Hahaha. ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2014 #49

You ignore the fact that 72% of Americans Trust Buster Mar 2014 #53

2/3 of Americans also supported segregation...... ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2014 #59

Oh for fucks, sake. 21 dems in the senate voted against the IWR. go educate yourself cali Mar 2014 #82

Perhaps you're the one that needs to educate yourself..... Trust Buster Mar 2014 #85

I suggest you look at WHO voted for and against it. Corporate pigs, warmongers cali Mar 2014 #91

I don't like her domestic policy either LittleBlue Mar 2014 #43

That stands true with any politician.... Trust Buster Mar 2014 #47

Well then what's the point of electing anyone? ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2014 #48

You can't blame an individual for a systematic problem. Trust Buster Mar 2014 #54

If its systematic then what's the point? ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2014 #58

I'm just talking reality to you. Trust Buster Mar 2014 #60

So in the mean time settle for the status quo? ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2014 #72

As we've witnessed recently, a President can't do it alone. Trust Buster Mar 2014 #78

What troubles me about a Hilary Clinton presidency is the fact that nothing will change. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #50

That's because you expect change to happen from the top-down...... Trust Buster Mar 2014 #61

It's going to be intact no matter who wins - TBF Mar 2014 #62

It'll start to change if we voice our opinion. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #63

That's what I just said - TBF Mar 2014 #67

So you wish to adopt the Right wing strategy ? Trust Buster Mar 2014 #84

Woah. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #89

She was just playing to her audience Kild the Radio Star Mar 2014 #51

Will she be wearing cowboy boots at her inauguration and saying "Mission Accomplished"? Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #52

I'm looking forward to all this being thrashed out in the primaries. Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #55

She's floating issue points to see how 'the people' react lunatica Mar 2014 #56

To de paywall WSJ links copy & paste URL in Archive.is alp227 Mar 2014 #64

It's Her being a Third-Way Dem fascisthunter Mar 2014 #73

What troubles me the most is having Bill Clinton back in the White House tularetom Mar 2014 #76

Fake foundation? Beacool Mar 2014 #98

plus don't forget her blatant unwillingness to apologize for the vote for war on Iraq in 2008 Victor_c3 Mar 2014 #86

I will never forget or forgive it. she's a warmongering hawk. I trust her on NOTHING cali Mar 2014 #92

if she gets America in a war, Chelsea will be pressured to sign up. Whisp Mar 2014 #95

Indeed Puzzledtraveller Mar 2014 #96

I agree. Vattel Mar 2014 #100

That, and C Street KamaAina Mar 2014 #104