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totodeinhere

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92. No, you are twisting my words. I said that e-cigs have not been adequately studied yet

Sun Mar 23, 2014, 02:06 PM

Mar 2014

but ingesting nicotine has been shown to be harmful to the body. There is no question about that. Just Google "the harmful effects of nicotine" and see how many hits you get.

The reason I brought up the fact that e-cigs have not been adequately studied yet is to raise another red flag about their use. Myself, I would not want to use anything that hasn't been studied enough yet to know if it might be harmful or not. Until we know based upon peer reviewed scientific studies of e-cigs that it is not harmful then I would not want to use them.

And after all, as a progressive I have always believed in science. It's the right wing that often rejects science. I will rely upon scientific information about e-cigs and nicotine rather than anecdotes from users.

I also find it notable that when I comment about the possible harmful effects of e-cigs I get snarky responses back. I wish we could have a civil discussion about this without all of the snark.

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Just tried my first e-cigarette [View all] Prophet 451 Mar 2014 OP

I hope you didn't exhale. ..A danger to society and all that. . pipoman Mar 2014 #1

it's water vapor... RoccoR5955 Mar 2014 #25

It is second hand water vapor then...you are contributing to the black mold pipoman Mar 2014 #30

True, but when the aliens from the movie Signs land, e-cig users are going to kick ass. Liberal Veteran Mar 2014 #84

It isn't only water vapor. It's water plus whatever other ingredients, including toxins pnwmom Mar 2014 #105

It's water vapor plus various other ingredients, some of which are toxic. pnwmom Mar 2014 #104

Good for you! Glitterati Mar 2014 #2

Good move. Hope it works out for you think Mar 2014 #3

One thing to be aware of Mariana Mar 2014 #4

The place I ordered from does sample bottles cheap Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #9

I'd get the ones you can refill meow2u3 Mar 2014 #5

That's the ones I've gone for Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #7

I got glass tanks and a device you can charge your cell phone from, too meow2u3 Mar 2014 #10

What's the cost for those? eom. 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #26

Great that you are tryting to quit smoking. pangaia Mar 2014 #6

I'm not actually trying to quit smoking Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #8

You probably won't want to smoke while vaping meow2u3 Mar 2014 #11

And if that happens, that's fine Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #38

If you do switch to using only the e-cigs Mariana Mar 2014 #12

The cost homegirl Mar 2014 #22

It's a price I don't care about n/t Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #39

Why not quit? Too addicted to nicotine? nt Logical Mar 2014 #23

Partly Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #40

Good points. I agree that this will be much safer for you. Good luck! n-t Logical Mar 2014 #63

well PatrynXX Mar 2014 #13

Not a good idea for me Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #14

You might want to consider asking a doctor Half-Century Man Mar 2014 #20

I'm British Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #41

I have family members who are manic depressive. Half-Century Man Mar 2014 #75

Couldn't agree more Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #100

How do you figure it's more nicotine? Mariana Mar 2014 #16

You use far less nicotine Oilwellian Mar 2014 #44

Warning from a licensed respiratory therapist, if I may... MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #15

I told my doctor I had quit smoking 3 weeks earlier... Ino Mar 2014 #31

Some people can't resist the opportunity to criticize, Ilsa Mar 2014 #34

FFS... MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #115

I think docs are poorly trained in promoting health, and more trained in disease treatment... MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #35

I think that's largely true Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #43

Couple of things Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #42

Lots of people who truly enjoyed smoking Mariana Mar 2014 #53

That might well be the case Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #54

i haven't thrown out the last of mine fizzgig Mar 2014 #83

I guess we'll both have to wait and see... MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #55

They still make those? Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #101

Pittsburgh�. MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #114

An interesting observation Egnever Mar 2014 #60

I'm British Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #102

Independent researchers have also measured formaldehyde, nano-particles of metal, pnwmom Mar 2014 #107

Did everyone in your vicinity have asthma attacks and die? PeaceNikki Mar 2014 #17

Congrats! Oilwellian Mar 2014 #18

Indulge my wargaming hobby! Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #45

We've saved enough for a trip to California Oilwellian Mar 2014 #48

My wife hasn't had a real cig since before Christmas. riqster Mar 2014 #19

I guess that's where I want wrong ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #28

I had the same issue DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2014 #36

I use a smok ego winder battery with a kanger clearomizer. boston bean Mar 2014 #56

It takes practice, that's a fact. Mariana Mar 2014 #57

My current setup is a bit pricey LadyHawkAZ Mar 2014 #76

Instead of going through all that, why not just quite tobacco altogether? totodeinhere Mar 2014 #21

Too hard for them I assume. n-t Logical Mar 2014 #24

Why all the snark? pipoman Mar 2014 #32

No snark, same reason I can't lose 20 pounds. Too hard to stop eating too much. n-t Logical Mar 2014 #65

As I understand it, the electronic cigarettes contain no tobacco. Pterodactyl Mar 2014 #27

I swear some would rather see people continue to smoke Mariana Mar 2014 #61

You're still getting the nicotine. riqster Mar 2014 #72

There are people who would rather she kept on smoking Mariana Mar 2014 #73

Progress is a good thing. riqster Mar 2014 #86

Two things Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #46

But they do contain nicotine which is the active ingredient in tobacco that causes totodeinhere Mar 2014 #59

Nonsense Egnever Mar 2014 #64

The health effects of e-cigarettes have not been adequately studied yet. Some countries, including totodeinhere Mar 2014 #85

"No, getting a nicotine fix with e-cigs is not a good idea". Egnever Mar 2014 #87

How come these people never throw fits Mariana Mar 2014 #88

One would think so Egnever Mar 2014 #89

Using nicotine patches and gum in consultation with a physician is one thing, totodeinhere Mar 2014 #94

Kinda like medicating oneself... beevul Mar 2014 #96

Actually there are plenty of studies about the health benefits of pot. totodeinhere Mar 2014 #98

How many on the effects of non-combusted nicotine in typical dosages? beevul Mar 2014 #120

What physician? Mariana Mar 2014 #97

Yes you can get such products OTC. But nevertheless it is always totodeinhere Mar 2014 #99

No, you are twisting my words. I said that e-cigs have not been adequately studied yet totodeinhere Mar 2014 #92

Ingesting nicotine is NOT always harmful to the body. Google 'beneficial effects of nicotine' Demit Mar 2014 #113

That doesn't change the fact that there are many known harmful effects. n/t totodeinhere Mar 2014 #116

Oh, yes? Do tell. What are the harmful effects of nicotine? Demit Mar 2014 #121

I already addressed that upthread. Why are you asking me to repeat myself? totodeinhere Mar 2014 #122

You already addressed that? What are you, a lecturer giving a class? Demit Mar 2014 #123

LOL'ing at Democrats being swayed by big tobacco about the safety of their number one threat... n/t ReverendDeuce Mar 2014 #91

Nicotine is the addictive substance..... Mustellus Mar 2014 #29

Thank you for that guilt trip. CFLDem Mar 2014 #33

Do you realize... Oilwellian Mar 2014 #37

And in due course, I may well go the same way Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #50

That's why I continue to vape Oilwellian Mar 2014 #70

"the greater addiction is the motions we go through" fizzgig Mar 2014 #79

Don't you know that's not good enough? Mariana Mar 2014 #62

No these folks are just on some weird crusade Egnever Mar 2014 #66

Thank you for telling me things I have heard literally hundreds of times Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #47

Thanks for the information, Cotton Mather. Tom Ripley Mar 2014 #51

Great news...you'll never go back... Tom Ripley Mar 2014 #49

Hopefully, I shall go the same way Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #52

Some of my coworkers were talking about their favorite flavors. ZombieHorde Mar 2014 #58

My husband likes Pina Colada and Watermelon Oilwellian Mar 2014 #67

There are so many different flavors it is just nuts Egnever Mar 2014 #68

This week my favorite flavor is blueberry. Mariana Mar 2014 #69

I picked up a Cinnamon Red Hots flavor the other day LadyHawkAZ Mar 2014 #77

I ordered half-a-dozen sample bottles Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #106

Good Beringia Mar 2014 #71

today is day eight for me fizzgig Mar 2014 #74

Awesome! Egnever Mar 2014 #80

yeah, i could go without some of those smells fizzgig Mar 2014 #82

Give it three days of just the e-cig LadyHawkAZ Mar 2014 #78

I was the same Egnever Mar 2014 #81

good luck, honey. Half my family died of cancer from cigs. I wish you well roguevalley Mar 2014 #90

Ignore the haters, enjoy your vapors. Throd Mar 2014 #93

Good for you War Horse Mar 2014 #95

I started Wed. demtenjeep Mar 2014 #103

I hope it works out well for you Warpy Mar 2014 #108

I ordered a bunch of sampler bottles... Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #109

And, no nasty smoke right? I don't know that much Cha Mar 2014 #110

Nope, no smoke Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #111

Yummm Cha Mar 2014 #112

I am smoke free thanks to vaping. Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #117

I can't wait until they come out with e-joints. edbermac Mar 2014 #118

You know that's coming Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #119

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