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gulliver

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51. The ACA reality is just starting to dispel the Republican bullshit.

Sun Mar 23, 2014, 05:17 PM

Mar 2014

It's early. The ACA just needs to keep saving lives and keeping families out of the poor house. I don't have statistics, but it seems like the media aren't giving the "people don't like Obamacare" angle as much time in the rehash rotation lately. It won't be long before everyone is one or two bacons away from a positive Obamacare story. The negative stories are dropping like flies.

I plan on contributing and doing my part for GOTV efforts. I'm looking for upside. We could really start getting people back to work if we overwhelmed the Republican austerity machine with Democrats. With the Republicans in charge, we could expect a surge against marijuana legalization and, of course, more economic obstruction. I'm sick of Republicans getting away with crap like that, so I'm going to do as much as I can to take away their fun.

We outnumber them. We just need everyone to get off their asses. We need to make it easier to vote too. If people could vote at the grocery store, there would be no more need to worry about a Republican Party.

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Nate Silver: GOP favored to win Senate [View all] BrentWil Mar 2014 OP

if that happens we might as well just flush 2pooped2pop Mar 2014 #1

We will win it back in 2016... The map BrentWil Mar 2014 #5

Yeah sure..... Historic NY Mar 2014 #7

they will push through so much bullshit that it won't be worth living here 2pooped2pop Mar 2014 #9

fear not d_b Mar 2014 #53

Dems will filibuster and Obama will veto the crazy shit in the budget... Hippo_Tron Mar 2014 #91

Filibuster what? Beacool Mar 2014 #117

They ended it for nominees, not for legislation... Hippo_Tron Mar 2014 #151

Thanks for the clarification. Beacool Mar 2014 #154

We are at serious risk for decades because of the gerrymandering pnwmom Mar 2014 #24

Bullshit observation. We MUST hold the Senate and try to win the House. bluestate10 Mar 2014 #40

Except that it takes two-thirds of the Senate to convict the President on impeachment. TexasTowelie Mar 2014 #95

The GOP will NEVER try to impeach Obama. DetlefK Mar 2014 #132

Believe that if you want to. Chisox08 Mar 2014 #147

No. The Republicans will have most races fixed by then unless Team Koch makes ballyhoo Mar 2014 #62

And Koch _WILL_ overplay their hand Timez Squarez Mar 2014 #68

That's the spirit! ballyhoo Mar 2014 #76

No, the President has the veto pen and they won't have a two thirds mandate seveneyes Mar 2014 #39

If republicans control the House and Senate, with their current mindset, they bluestate10 Mar 2014 #43

I think they learned their lesson about impeachment customerserviceguy Mar 2014 #102

No one is going to impeach Obama. Beacool Mar 2014 #120

Nate Silver ...shilling for the GOP? L0oniX Mar 2014 #2

As saying shit isn't good analysis doesn't make it so BrentWil Mar 2014 #6

In 2012 he called all 50 states. former9thward Mar 2014 #41

Ok ...so never mind voting then. Thanks for the pep talk. L0oniX Mar 2014 #85

The poster I was replying to said Silver was shit. former9thward Mar 2014 #87

To be fair, he only had to call nine states Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #99

Who else did? former9thward Mar 2014 #123

I didn't say that, did I? Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #131

Actually, many other websites and statisticians were even more accurate. Dawgs Mar 2014 #136

So did just taking an average of all of the final polls. Dawgs Mar 2014 #111

Why don't you get in the business then? former9thward Mar 2014 #122

Actually, I'm working on it right now. Dawgs Mar 2014 #135

Well good luck to you. former9thward Mar 2014 #138

I'll let the chicken little gang enjoy snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. L0oniX Mar 2014 #84

LOL, we love Nate when he says dems will win. We hate him other wise. So stupid. n-t Logical Mar 2014 #18

I'm pretty sure there will be plenty here rubbing their hands will glee over that prediction n/t Sheepshank Mar 2014 #29

Cheering for the negative? Are you sure you are on the right site? L0oniX Mar 2014 #82

Cheering his accuracy. You can be in denial all you want. n-t Logical Mar 2014 #88

So yea ...don't bother to vote. So we loose and you would be happy that the pollster was right. L0oniX Mar 2014 #106

I don't think that is what Logical is saying. Beacool Mar 2014 #121

+1 Agschmid Mar 2014 #126

Lol, temper temper, who said not to vote? Are you mad bro? nt Logical Mar 2014 #134

Yea ...I am angry that Dems didn't get out and vote for Alex Sink ...maybe they saw Nate's poll... L0oniX Mar 2014 #141

Nate had a poll for that special election? Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #144

Well, then they are stupid I agree, but Nate will predict based on facts.... Logical Mar 2014 #149

I hate that stupid, reflexive response that any pollster bearing bad news... Silent3 Mar 2014 #23

So true! nt Logical Mar 2014 #31

Imagine carrying this response out in other areas Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #37

+1 L0oniX Mar 2014 #80

The "Pure" crowd has planted their flag. You see them repeatedly on DU bluestate10 Mar 2014 #46

nailed it nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #103

Rushing into defeat ...huh. Are you sure you are on the right site? L0oniX Mar 2014 #81

You somehow equate what I said with "rushing into defeat"? Silent3 Mar 2014 #92

Most teams have cheerleaders. Nate is right? ...ok ...so don't bother to vote. Got it! L0oniX Mar 2014 #109

No one said that. Agschmid Mar 2014 #127

All except for the fact that I said the exact opposite about voting. Silent3 Mar 2014 #139

So polling legitimacy is based demwing Mar 2014 #101

Are you trying to depress us and trying to make people not vote? WTF L0oniX Mar 2014 #105

Perhaps these polls should encourage Democrats... NobodyHere Mar 2014 #113

That's a much better way to use the poll. Saying Nate's always right is saying don't bother to vote. L0oniX Mar 2014 #116

No, it isn't saying that at all demwing Mar 2014 #119

You're fucking welcome demwing Mar 2014 #118

..and enjoy your Dems are going to loose fucking poll. L0oniX Mar 2014 #140

You've lost it in this sub thread. Agschmid Mar 2014 #130

...^ that 840high Mar 2014 #94

Silver is a Statistician, he calls it as he sees it. We must prove him wrong. We bluestate10 Mar 2014 #44

Prove him wrong or never mind voting. Take your choice! L0oniX Mar 2014 #86

Some of us have no one to vote for for some races Art_from_Ark Mar 2014 #100

That's a really ProSense Mar 2014 #3

Yes but... BrentWil Mar 2014 #8

Landrieu is leading her likely Rethug opponent by 7 points. Dawson Leery Mar 2014 #13

she leads her likely opponent in a jungle primary dsc Mar 2014 #49

There will be NO 'poorly-financed tea party upstart' with Koch dollars in play. n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #66

Actually, every Koch dollars will be exposed as dirty Timez Squarez Mar 2014 #69

What Wilburforce will do this? freshwest Mar 2014 #79

Meh. Let's just focus on 2016 Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #4

Nope. Rex Mar 2014 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #11

repubs already control the senate, this will be a mere formality nt msongs Mar 2014 #12

+1000 Tom Ripley Mar 2014 #14

ouch d_b Mar 2014 #54

Yep. Pretty much.......... ballyhoo Mar 2014 #59

It might be a bad year for Democrats rumdude Mar 2014 #15

Uh no. Democrats only need 17 seats to take the House BumRushDaShow Mar 2014 #16

About time someone said it! philosslayer Mar 2014 #57

Does any forecaster predict that Democrats will come close to picking up 17 seats? Pepper Cat Mar 2014 #146

During the gov't shutdown BumRushDaShow Mar 2014 #156

Bullshit. Saying the mid-terms aren't important is a giveaway to the republicans. arcane1 Mar 2014 #30

There are some "There is no difference between Democrats and republicans" bluestate10 Mar 2014 #48

2014 is just as important nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #104

I take him at his word Kild the Radio Star Mar 2014 #17

49.2 (D) - 50.8 (R) this far out isn't bad. Motown_Johnny Mar 2014 #19

Georgia looks promising. Dawson Leery Mar 2014 #20

the Moral Monday movement spilling over there may help turnout too n/t Motown_Johnny Mar 2014 #22

In particular that it is in the South. Seats in Georgia, Louisiana, bluestate10 Mar 2014 #50

How promising? Pepper Cat Mar 2014 #145

Favored, yes, but not by such a margin that it can't be turned around Silent3 Mar 2014 #21

It is important that Democrats GOTV, if that happens, Democrats bluestate10 Mar 2014 #55

It's too early to just give up because of that treestar Mar 2014 #25

Silver is making a prediction based upon historical trends. No time is bluestate10 Mar 2014 #56

+1 treestar Mar 2014 #96

Perhaps it is meant to put a little fire under our asses to GOTV! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #26

It definitely Should Put a Big Ol Fire Under our Asses! Cha Mar 2014 #71

This is good news at this point in the year. stopbush Mar 2014 #27

I predict Nate Silver will be wrong Politicalboi Mar 2014 #28

Me, too. GoCubsGo Mar 2014 #36

I hope you're right. But you have to acknowledge that Nate's track record has been fairly Number23 Mar 2014 #45

Nope. On crack. Timez Squarez Mar 2014 #72

No we don't have to accept Nate's shit poll. I am going to vote anyway. Fuck Nate! L0oniX Mar 2014 #110

I am doing to assume (for your sake) that you responded to the wrong person Number23 Mar 2014 #148

we need to drive the GOTV effort. We can't assume anything. bluestate10 Mar 2014 #60

Nate Silver is on crack, as usual. Timez Squarez Mar 2014 #70

^^^this^^^ will make some DU members sad I guess. L0oniX Mar 2014 #108

Nates not perfect MFM008 Mar 2014 #32

If historical true, the final count at the voting booth with have nothing to do policy, Sheepshank Mar 2014 #33

i trust Nate's math, but it can change this far out. JaneyVee Mar 2014 #34

^^^ this^^^ TDale313 Mar 2014 #98

I find the responses in this thread to be way too freeperish. L0oniX Mar 2014 #107

Polls mean absolutely positively NOTHING right now. NOTHING. RBInMaine Mar 2014 #35

Worrying, but not immensely so. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2014 #38

Democrats tend to have poor turnout when the presidency isn't at stake davidn3600 Mar 2014 #42

Although when pissed enough, they can come out like in 2006 BumRushDaShow Mar 2014 #47

Yeah, but Bush was president davidn3600 Mar 2014 #58

Right and wrong. What turned Democrats out in 2006 was the behavior bluestate10 Mar 2014 #64

Not lately MFrohike Mar 2014 #90

The ACA reality is just starting to dispel the Republican bullshit. gulliver Mar 2014 #51

Republicans are going to make it as hard as possible to vote, so don't count on bluestate10 Mar 2014 #65

Any attempt to suppress should be immediately stopped, and then the perpertrator Timez Squarez Mar 2014 #73

what color is the sky on your planet? Richardo Mar 2014 #77

Well, if democrats stay at home and don't vote in November, no_hypocrisy Mar 2014 #52

...and some here are praising Nate. Message: Don't bother to vote. L0oniX Mar 2014 #114

Silver is the best I've ever seen at prognostication. With what I think will happen prior to ballyhoo Mar 2014 #61

The Rethuglian Party will be dead or set aside as a regional party Timez Squarez Mar 2014 #74

So... butterfly77 Mar 2014 #63

Nate Silver is on crack, as usual. Timez Squarez Mar 2014 #67

As usual? ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2014 #83

...or the one before that? Richardo Mar 2014 #89

Let's hope Grimes' 0.5% lead in Kentucky holds nt Pepper Cat Mar 2014 #124

It will be hard but we can still hold onto it but we need to get our base out. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #75

If that happens, this country is doomed liberal N proud Mar 2014 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author Cal33 Mar 2014 #112

Problem with Nate is lancer78 Mar 2014 #93

much harder Shivering Jemmy Mar 2014 #97

A "SLIGHT" CHANCE! Andy823 Mar 2014 #115

The good news is that Silver is only as a good as the polls he uses theboss Mar 2014 #125

How anyone can vote for a Republican after the stench of the Bewsh years is beyond me completely. HughBeaumont Mar 2014 #128

*******************"Slight Favorite in Race for Senate"********************** uponit7771 Mar 2014 #129

No matter Who says What fredamae Mar 2014 #133

Nate also ways polls this far out are not very predictive. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #137

Polls are not the only factor Nate considers, when making his forecast Pepper Cat Mar 2014 #142

I've read his book. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #143

Polls are not the only thing Nate bases his forecasts on Pepper Cat Mar 2014 #150

Polls combined with some basic common sense this far out are very predictive Hippo_Tron Mar 2014 #152

The Nate Silver who just hired a climate change denier for his new website? KamaAina Mar 2014 #153

Bwahahahahah ...nailed it! L0oniX Mar 2014 #155

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