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Octafish

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66. Catch-22

Mon Mar 24, 2014, 10:01 AM

Mar 2014

"Major Major had been born too late and too mediocre. Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them. With Major Major it had been all three. Even among men lacking all distinction he inevitably stood out as a man lacking more distinction than all the rest, and people who met him were always impressed by how unimpressive he was." ― Joseph Heller, Catch-22

After the restoration of justice, what I had hoped to see change most was the "money trumps peace" thing.

Like any good catch, justice and peace are inter-related; and like any good catch in the money-trumps-peace world, mutually exclusive.

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White House withholds thousands of documents from Senate CIA probe, despite vows of help [View all] Octafish Mar 2014 OP

It would be helpful to know WHO in the WH is involved. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2014 #1

Agree. Democracy requires accountability. Octafish Mar 2014 #6

Cheney Watch.org k&r bobthedrummer Mar 2014 #59

My guess is David Margolis. OnyxCollie Mar 2014 #11

The name Margolis sounds vaguely familiar. 2banon Mar 2014 #16

Here's a link to a paper I wrote about US Attorneys OnyxCollie Mar 2014 #20

"None Dare Call it Treason"... 2banon Mar 2014 #44

I thought we were supposed to transparent? Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2014 #36

Transparent, translucent, opaque, whatever. progressoid Mar 2014 #41

Indeed. woo me with science Mar 2014 #72

I'm gonna say it, this needs to be investigated and not just Autumn Mar 2014 #2

Absolutely. Perhaps a federal Grand Jury led by an Independent Prosecutor? Octafish Mar 2014 #7

This cannot stand. It needs to be done . NOW. Autumn Mar 2014 #8

"The president has stated an unequivocal commitment... ProSense Mar 2014 #3

Definitely. Otherwise, there's a real problem. Octafish Mar 2014 #9

Since they can't release the report til the WH turns over the documents riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #10

Cool, now where is he on making the documents available to them to effectively make the report? TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #21

lol. look how the poster ran, ran away. cali Mar 2014 #74

Best to depart in quiet than to keep rattling on until some wonder if such is a pattern. TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #75

Talk is cheap. nt NorthCarolina Mar 2014 #31

But there is a catch in that. zeemike Mar 2014 #40

Disinformation Ichingcarpenter Mar 2014 #51

Recommend. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2014 #4

Thanks, Jefferson23! Octafish Mar 2014 #14

That's because those tactics are not a form of a legitimate democracy..you're correct imo. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2014 #19

Transparency only applies to documents that aren't noteworthy. LuvNewcastle Mar 2014 #5

Catch-22 Octafish Mar 2014 #66

it's a safe bet to say that the American people will NEVER see the report nt G_j Mar 2014 #12

No, the obvious intent is a report that has enough data withheld to paint a false impression of TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #24

good point, and then there were the documents which the CIA destroyed nt G_j Mar 2014 #28

Yup, this is willful. TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #42

rec 840high Mar 2014 #13

This is internal and has nothing to do with national security. L0oniX Mar 2014 #15

Big Kick and Rec! 2banon Mar 2014 #17

If the top levels of our government have a secret government rhett o rick Mar 2014 #18

I agree with your assessment of the Bush administration, but the unchecked LuvNewcastle Mar 2014 #23

I dont disagree. I was just making the case that they had cart blanche from 2000 - 2008. nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #25

Remember that fire in Cheney's office? 2banon Mar 2014 #27

I think he is on a short leash. He knows a lot, maybe too much. Just sayin. nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #29

hmm, interesting point. It's hard not see his hand on the levers on the game board though. n/t 2banon Mar 2014 #55

I think his usefulness to the PTB has waned. nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #62

I forgot about the fire. OnyxCollie Mar 2014 #32

Why is the WH afraid of blowing it open Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2014 #37

Maybe it would reveal Enthusiast Mar 2014 #43

I wish I knew. n/t 2banon Mar 2014 #47

Blowing it open would result in complete chaos. The President rhett o rick Mar 2014 #63

Maybe they're still trying to sort things out. GoCubsGo Mar 2014 #65

We the people need to know Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2014 #69

I think most people already knew that. n/t GoCubsGo Mar 2014 #70

The informed people do Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2014 #77

And the shredding truck... dgauss Mar 2014 #54

did you see this excerpt on that blog: ? 2banon Mar 2014 #57

That caught my eye too, the expectation of investigations. dgauss Mar 2014 #61

Not impossible but hard because to press the issue one must be willing to accept TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #30

You know considering the NeoCons chest thumping, and belittling President Obama's anti-aggressive 2banon Mar 2014 #58

Absolutely, an interview with Cheney should be exactly like an interview with Manson. TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #68

Senator Udall pressed for answers.. 2banon Mar 2014 #22

They realized they revealed a little too much in their document dump, LuvNewcastle Mar 2014 #26

"The Panetta Review" was apparently the red flag 2banon Mar 2014 #52

Here is Udall's statement ProSense Mar 2014 #53

If they have nothing to hide about torture then they have nothing to worry about. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #33

big K and R. bbgrunt Mar 2014 #34

Obfuscation trumps transparency pscot Mar 2014 #35

Could the information be leaked. Not a Fan Mar 2014 #38

weren't the Pentagon papers read into the Congressional record? grasswire Mar 2014 #48

The Obama administration chose to cover up the crimes of Bush/Cheney Oilwellian Mar 2014 #39

Accountability ended with the 2000 election. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #45

Kicked and recommended a whole bunch. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #46

big important kick nt grasswire Mar 2014 #49

what might be their reasons? n/t wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #50

The Senate should hire Snowden so they could find out what the CIA does. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #56

But they are helping...just very slowly. Rex Mar 2014 #60

I'm going to kick this thread until it confesses. Jesus Malverde Mar 2014 #64

It's IS sad that the so called South American "banana republics" have done a better job ... MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #73

"more than one quarter of all footnotes in the 9/11 Report refer to CIA interrogations" johnnyreb Mar 2014 #67

K&R woo me with science Mar 2014 #71

Kick!!! Great information. haikugal Mar 2014 #76