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Feron

(2,063 posts)
96. I have both Indoor & Outdoor cats
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 04:08 PM
Mar 2014

Right now I have two indoor cats and one indoor/outdoor cat.

The eldest cat is only indoor/outdoor because she is the oldest and has always been that way. Rosie is only a threat to lizards and doesn't go out much anyway. I'm hoping to gradually ease her into being indoor only as she ages.

Wildlife concerns aside, indoor cats are a lot less stress and cost less to keep healthy.

You don't have to worry about (which have all happened to me/my family):

-An asshole shooting your cat with a pellet/BB gun and giving your cat an infected wound.
-Neighborhood dog mauling your cat to death
-Your cat getting into the trash after the possums finished pawing through it and getting sick because of it.
-Your cat getting into a fight. And then getting an abscess which takes off a large chunk of your cat's flesh. This happens repeatedly.
-Your neutered male cat encounters another male. Must. Spray.Everything.
-Waking up at 3 am to the sweet sounds of dueling cat falsettos.
-The goddamned cat door which is no more. And having to wrestle away prey my cat has delivered inside. Worst: live baby copperhead. How my cat didn't get injured I don't know. Weirdest: A live crawfish. Most disgusting: A decapitated and half-eaten squirrel I found in my bedroom. Got the most exercise trying to catch it: toss up between the garter snake and the mouse my cat dropped in the dining room unscathed.
-Uninvited cats coming in through the cat door. I did catch the neighborhood stray when the cat door malfunctioned and it got stuck in my house. Animal control picked him up.
-Sick cat wandering off. One came back and was euthanized after a month of unsuccessful treatments for what we believe was probably a hereditary liver problem. The other cat, Kramer, wandered off never to return. He was elderly and was going down from old age issues. In hindsight I think his life inside would have been better and a lot less stressful. FWIW, he was 16.
-Wild animals attacking and/or killing your cat.

Anyhow I think that a better approach for bird enthusiasts is to educate cat owners on how to enrich your indoor environment. It's a least a start.
I don't think that the knee jerk "cats bad" approach some overzealous birders have is productive. It just puts cat owners on the defensive and nothing changes.


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This is a thing? Agschmid Mar 2014 #1
Can't see why cats would want to go outside Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #22
Simple answer...there's a door, see? brooklynite Mar 2014 #35
I have owned nine cats since I was 12 Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #76
I have had similar results. The last two cats that have lived with me as INDOOR cats MADem Mar 2014 #81
As Mr. Spock said Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #91
Sounds like a fun house to me! nt MADem Mar 2014 #93
Both of our former cats died of internal complications having nothing to do with going outdoors. brooklynite Mar 2014 #86
That may well be Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #90
k&R. nt raccoon Mar 2014 #2
I think birds kill smaller birds. warrior1 Mar 2014 #3
I see this all the time. Red Tails go after the doves and pigeons, which Cleita Mar 2014 #6
Hell, didn't we just see Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #23
Birds kill cats too Rumold Mar 2014 #84
I fully admit to extreme bias in this regard.... mike_c Mar 2014 #4
righteous post. +1000. nt navarth Mar 2014 #12
It is possible people are a issue and cats also. No one says it is only cats. n-t Logical Mar 2014 #14
Hmmmm. Do cats kill billionaires? Something about that just doesn't seem right. Kurovski Mar 2014 #83
Yes, cats are an introduced species and the DO have an impact. alarimer Mar 2014 #63
Having witnesses countless numbers of my human friends whose windows 'do in' birds every truedelphi Mar 2014 #82
Coyotes and raptors in my neighborhood do a far more efficient job than any cat. Cleita Mar 2014 #5
Yes, we have coyotes galore -- and we live within city limits. Arugula Latte Mar 2014 #19
We have lots of urban coyotes Texasgal Mar 2014 #69
Never trust a cat named Doc world wide wally Mar 2014 #7
It's almost like animals eat other animals. progressoid Mar 2014 #8
I don't have a problem with cats killing things. LuvNewcastle Mar 2014 #9
Feral cats AND dogs are a menace Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #24
That's terrible. LuvNewcastle Mar 2014 #40
Perhaps a bounty would expedite removing the feral dogs seveneyes Mar 2014 #58
The cats will benefit from a trap, roody Mar 2014 #33
Yes, at the very least they need to be neutered. LuvNewcastle Mar 2014 #38
+++++ Yes! BrotherIvan Mar 2014 #42
The proper way to take care of feral cats is not killing them tabbycat31 Mar 2014 #46
Mine used to hunt because she was starving. Aerows Mar 2014 #10
Mine just tortures them to death AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #13
Mine is six years old Aerows Mar 2014 #15
Made me laugh... TeeYiYi Mar 2014 #17
I would think that lizards and mice are more likely Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #26
The amount of shrews she killed and brought home to feast on ... Aerows Mar 2014 #31
Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics... JCMach1 Mar 2014 #11
Disagreements with scientific studies should be based on better science. Cassidy Mar 2014 #16
Cat should be kept in doors Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #28
Cats should without question be spayed and neutered Aerows Mar 2014 #32
People who argue that cats should be allowed to roam free XemaSab Mar 2014 #18
Dogs hunt too. Cleita Mar 2014 #20
Yup. Texasgal Mar 2014 #72
My neighbors dogs love killing baby rabbits. B Calm Mar 2014 #85
Gosh, don't see any arguments that cats SHOULD Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #21
+1. We had barn cats all the time I was growing up, and no one Zorra Mar 2014 #25
+1000. nt NickB79 Mar 2014 #27
except that the basis for our argument is the happiness and welfare of the cats themselves.... mike_c Mar 2014 #29
My female cat freaks out when she can't go outside for at least a little while Aerows Mar 2014 #37
Apparently you don't have neighbors who have gardens. Demit Mar 2014 #45
you're right, none do.... mike_c Mar 2014 #47
Well, it sounds like you're all of a mind, so that's nice. Demit Mar 2014 #64
A cat is a cat Aerows Mar 2014 #68
Then keep them in your house, if you want a companion. Demit Mar 2014 #74
Of course, nobody that would do that has a garden, either. Aerows Mar 2014 #65
Same with people that argue Wolves can run free while felines can't seveneyes Mar 2014 #54
All of my cats are spayed/neutered, well fed Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #88
First, 80 million dead animals is no small number NickB79 Mar 2014 #30
So far I haven't seen anyone Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #34
Okay...it's perfectly fine for my cat to wander outdoors. brooklynite Mar 2014 #36
I think many people seem to forget that the entire reason cats were domesticated Aerows Mar 2014 #39
I think the jury is still out on who domesticated whom, LOL.... mike_c Mar 2014 #50
"Purr when you see them" Aerows Mar 2014 #52
Our cat is welcome to any mouse dumb enough Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #77
Not to get into a big disagreement over this Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #75
Bubonic Plague was demonstrably spread throughout Europe Aerows Mar 2014 #41
Yes, and cats help keep vermin at bay to this day seveneyes Mar 2014 #55
I'm living proof of that Aerows Mar 2014 #56
They are wrong to do that seveneyes Mar 2014 #59
I don't have a raccoon issue anymore Aerows Mar 2014 #61
People also need to remember cats kill other predators as well. scarletlib Mar 2014 #43
my cat will never get out MFM008 Mar 2014 #44
Luring raccoons near your home is a recipe for disaster. Aerows Mar 2014 #60
Cats born and raised indoors are inefficient hunters Warpy Mar 2014 #48
A bird got into the house once Aerows Mar 2014 #49
I had one huntress Warpy Mar 2014 #51
I've rescued three birds from mine just that way. Aerows Mar 2014 #53
My thoughts Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #78
I posted the abstract on this subject from a scholarly journal in Science topics HereSince1628 Mar 2014 #57
Perhaps Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #79
I questioned those reports too. dem in texas Mar 2014 #62
It seems to me this is a plausible explanation for a lot of bird kills. idendoit Mar 2014 #66
I get a large amt of baby cottontails each year that are cat caught. nt Mojorabbit Mar 2014 #67
Did you prefer them attacking your garden? Aerows Mar 2014 #70
I have a large garden and they don't do much in the way of damage. Mojorabbit Mar 2014 #71
My five are house cats and they kill sweet fuck all dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #73
Oh, one does not know what an adrenaline surge is Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #80
European starlings reddread Mar 2014 #87
I share my life with 2 cats who never go outside justiceischeap Mar 2014 #89
I posted a link to a 2011 NYT story elsewhere in the thread Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #92
It's easier to create a study that blames something else justiceischeap Mar 2014 #94
In my area, LWolf Mar 2014 #95
I have both Indoor & Outdoor cats Feron Mar 2014 #96
Am I an "overzealous birder?" XemaSab Mar 2014 #97
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