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In reply to the discussion: "We Don't Need Two Wall Street Parties" Markos responds to Third Way attack at Politico. [View all]BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)36. I don't really accept that argument
Last edited Tue Mar 25, 2014, 12:41 PM - Edit history (2)
Yes, I agree that the country is not monolithic and we have to be willing to accept some variation in some specific areas. But the fact is that in EVERY CORNER OF THIS COUNTRY, majorities agree with most of our bedrock principles. Tell me what state has a majority against these things (OK, maybe I'll concede Utah, but I'm not even sure about that.):
- An end to the unlimited data collection by the NSA, and real laws, not just Presidential orders, that include protections of the peoples' privacy as an inherent part of any data collection
- No reduction in social security benefits, period.
- Elimination of the loopholes that allow our most profitable corporations to pay no taxes. Not just that, but a return to the situation of 50 years ago where corporations and the wealthy paid their fair share of the cost of having a modern society.
- Elimination of incentives to move jobs overseas, new incentives for creation of jobs employing Americans, elimination of work visas in any industry where there are unemployed Americans qualified to do those jobs
- Completion of the work to get health care coverage for all Americans
- Solid goals for carbon reduction and a move to a renewable energy economy
+++Edited to include one of the most important ones I can't believe I left off+++
- Cut food stamp usage and other public assistance in half, not by cruel austerity, but by ensuring every full-time worker makes a living wage above the poverty level.
It truly is a messaging problem more than the idea that people are too conservative to elect a real Democrat. Most of them have never had the opportunity to vote for a real Democrat in their entire lives. THAT is what needs to change.
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"We Don't Need Two Wall Street Parties" Markos responds to Third Way attack at Politico. [View all]
madfloridian
Mar 2014
OP
Are you suggesting that those who call themselves Third Way are actually lying and are not really
Douglas Carpenter
Mar 2014
#21
Not necessarily, most who disagree with economic populism and favor the financial elite
Dragonfli
Mar 2014
#34
It isn't about throwing people out of the tent. Is it about the tent having a purpose.
BlueStreak
Mar 2014
#11
I'm all for this excellent list of Democrat principles posted by BlueStreak.n/t
Auntie Bush
Mar 2014
#45
Nice post, I would also tell the 3rd way people that our tent is for 99% of the people,
A Simple Game
Mar 2014
#84
With respect, a 32-page white paper is not the same as a list of core principles
BlueStreak
Mar 2014
#91
fabulous!! for far too long - a tiny fringe has been representing mainstream Democrats as the fringe
Douglas Carpenter
Mar 2014
#18
Of all people to attack, Third Way goes after the one with the most integrity.
QuestForSense
Mar 2014
#19
Markos doesn't sound as republican as some suggested on DU just days ago. Hmmm.
adirondacker
Mar 2014
#23
This 3rd way shit has got to go, even more destructive to workers/families than DLC...
pragmatic_dem
Mar 2014
#29
"Most of them have never had the opportunity to vote for a real Democrat in their entire lives"
madfloridian
Mar 2014
#39
Think conservative talk radio. How do we get effective progressive voices into the mix?
JDPriestly
Mar 2014
#76
The reason right-wing talk radio is effective is because the Republican's target demographic
Maedhros
Mar 2014
#89
Ha. In his response at DKos to Third Way he puts a pic of Elizabeth Warren and himself.
madfloridian
Mar 2014
#42
K&R While Markos can be a bit of a putz sometimes. This discussion nails proverbial head (aches).
laserhaas
Mar 2014
#46
We won't HAVE two Wall Street parties. If the (D) continue to pander to Wall St, it will disappear
Doctor_J
Mar 2014
#78
"The fact that the party is in the midst of a dramatic reorientation...
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
Mar 2014
#92