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justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
43. Most of your points are true
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 06:25 PM
Mar 2014

for people that are fortunate enough to have decent paying jobs... however, there's a new sector of homeless and most of it is because or our economy and capitalism... let me explain:

In the 1980's the Reagan Administration began dismantling regulation in industry, thinking a "free" market would be better for the economy--they felt competition between companies, forcing said companies to have better products was bad for business. I'd imagine some pretty serious corporate lobbyists helped with those laws. Now look at all the conglomerate monopolies we have in the US... no price competition (except to see how high they can go before it pisses people off), no competition to offer a better product.

In the 1990's, the Clinton administration signed NAFTA into law, taking the concept of capitalism and the "free" market even further. All the somewhat decent paying jobs in America began to flee to Mexico and India where the corporations could avoid Unions, who fought for fair wages for their workers. Now the Unions are almost dead and most of our manufacturing jobs are in other countries where corporations can charge us 30k for a car that probably cost 5k to build--including wages.

In the 2000's, the Bush administration took us into two wars, one of which was unnecessary and caused a lot of unnecessary death (and debt)... however, friends of the administration in the private mercenary business (and oil industry) made out like bandits--not just in Iraq and Afghanistan but in New Orleans as well. How many people lost their homes in NOLA and were shipped to other parts of the country and offered no way to get back home? Lots. Those people not only lost their homes but their families as well (because they were shipped to other states in this country).

What does this have to do with some stupid graphic and hyperbole? Not much but the picture you're painting does not apply to most Americans. Most Americans don't have savings because they're too busy working two or three part-time jobs and trying to figure out how they're going to feed their families, pay their rent, afford public transport if they don't have a car, afford car insurance in they do have a car, or goodness forbid, if their car breaks down, how they're going to pay for the repairs.

And, oh my, if they can't get to work because they lost their transportation, they'll most likely lose their lousy part-time job which is necessary for their survival because who gives a shit about some part-time employee when we can live in some fantasy world that ALL Americans have the same rights... when clearly they do not.

Another point is about health care. Until recently, there was the worry of a family member getting sick and not being able to get care but of course the people that work 3 part-time jobs to survive can't take sick time 'cause they'll lose their jobs if they do.

Oh, and did I forget to mention this fictional (not-so-fictional) person I'm imagining used to be in middle management and owned a home and leased a new car every few years and sent their kids to private school and bought the kids new shoes whenever they needed them?

What you seem to be missing out on is that all Americans have the right to those rights you speak of but that doesn't automatically mean they have those rights or will ever get to a place where they can have a savings account or own a home or have good credit (because between eating and the electric bill... what choice do they have).

Take a wider look at this country and see that there are people that are struggling and it's because of capitalism that they are. Take a look at the information for CEO's and their golden parachutes and the same CEO's closing companies in the US because it's more important for them to make extra profit so they can get their parachutes.

The irony...so true. nt Mnemosyne Mar 2014 #1
K & R..nt Wounded Bear Mar 2014 #2
Without the Soviets the capitalists lost all reason to model beneficence HereSince1628 Mar 2014 #3
Hyperbole MO_Moderate Mar 2014 #4
Exactly what do you think is being exaggerated TBF Mar 2014 #6
All of it MO_Moderate Mar 2014 #8
You are hilarious, you know that? Tsiyu Mar 2014 #10
So enlighten me MO_Moderate Mar 2014 #14
You seem to live in some other America Tsiyu Mar 2014 #15
Nope, we live in the same America MO_Moderate Mar 2014 #30
Where's my political and personal gain? Tsiyu Mar 2014 #33
What does any of that have to do with the exaggerations in the OP? MO_Moderate Mar 2014 #41
Like I said, you're hilarious Tsiyu Mar 2014 #45
That's just it MO_Moderate Mar 2014 #59
The OP didn't say we'd lost our RIGHT to houses Tsiyu Mar 2014 #65
Your own words justify my claim of hyperbole MO_Moderate Mar 2014 #68
tell that to my father and grandfather druidity33 Mar 2014 #44
Facts: TBF Mar 2014 #17
I believe in flying monkeys mindwalker_i Mar 2014 #23
... Tsiyu Mar 2014 #25
But how many people really have these rights? TBF Mar 2014 #11
Great charts and visuals Tsiyu Mar 2014 #12
They are from a fantastic article in MJ TBF Mar 2014 #13
Gotta love MJ Tsiyu Mar 2014 #16
We all have those rights MO_Moderate Mar 2014 #22
And I suppose you could care less Tsiyu Mar 2014 #26
You sure assume alot MO_Moderate Mar 2014 #34
No, I read your post Tsiyu Mar 2014 #36
This isn't crazy talk - TBF Mar 2014 #31
I'd like to see your response to TBF's posts #11 and #17. nt ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2014 #19
His response is nada - TBF Mar 2014 #32
You only posted that info for your own political and personal gain! Tsiyu Mar 2014 #37
Either that or I am part of his Bilderberg Conspiracy TBF Mar 2014 #38
That's what it was Tsiyu Mar 2014 #39
Not true MO_Moderate Mar 2014 #40
You haven't shown me anything TBF Mar 2014 #42
Want me to also "show you" that the sky is blue? MO_Moderate Mar 2014 #55
"little charts" - TBF Mar 2014 #56
Oh brother MO_Moderate Mar 2014 #60
That is the problem with your words - TBF Mar 2014 #61
165 likes on this OP as of 9:33 am - TBF Mar 2014 #57
Maybe a little modification will make them true. A Simple Game Mar 2014 #53
Oh, it comes down to "discipline." Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2014 #29
Most of your points are true justiceischeap Mar 2014 #43
But all people have access to health care according to our Moderate friend Tsiyu Mar 2014 #46
Nothing is said about the loss of private property - that's YOUR hyperbole Scootaloo Mar 2014 #52
You may not have lost your home fasttense Mar 2014 #54
And what caused the sudden massive collection of bad decisions and bad luck kcr Mar 2014 #62
NC is now forcing landowners to allow fracking. blm Mar 2014 #63
Reminds me of the quote from John Kenneth Galbraith. edbermac Mar 2014 #5
That's a great quote Orrex Mar 2014 #7
Yep Tsiyu Mar 2014 #9
I wish that I could share Name Unpronounceable Mar 2014 #20
I'm not always an optimist, believe me Tsiyu Mar 2014 #24
Actually that's the scary part sunnystarr Mar 2014 #35
After the Soviet Union collapsed, there was a saying in Russia: alcibiades_mystery Mar 2014 #18
Thanks for sharing! Absolutely brilliant! WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #21
Isn't that the truth. Rider3 Mar 2014 #27
A hardy hear hear!!! Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2014 #28
Wow. I'll try to share that on FB, ok? IrishAyes Mar 2014 #47
Can you please provide a link where I can FB share from? IrishAyes Mar 2014 #48
My friend Bobby shared it on mine. sunnystarr Mar 2014 #50
I read your last post first. Thanks again for the link. IrishAyes Mar 2014 #67
Ignore my previous post sunnystarr Mar 2014 #51
Thank you so much! IrishAyes Mar 2014 #66
So true. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #49
Stealing liberalmike27 Mar 2014 #58
Thought provoking graphic, but it is hyperbole. And misleading. hueymahl Mar 2014 #64
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