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OilemFirchen

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Tue Mar 25, 2014, 08:00 PM

Mar 2014

Jefferson never saw combat and Roosevelt was never in the military.

How did any of these individuals put their fortunes on the line fighting for their principles?

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Obamabots: Not Our Enemy: Cut Them Some Slack [View all] RobertEarl Mar 2014 OP

Well worth considering nt el_bryanto Mar 2014 #1

Worshipping the promotion of the third-way, which causes the degredation of the global environment.. NoOneMan Mar 2014 #2

Worship? RobertEarl Mar 2014 #4

I guess it comes down to how you define "Obamabots" NoOneMan Mar 2014 #9

That is true RobertEarl Mar 2014 #12

So George Washington wasn't "the One"? so Jefferson wasn't "the One"? so Lincoln wasn't "the One"? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #31

Comparing Obama to any of these men is like comparing Justin Beiber to John Lennon... Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #70

^^^ Prime example right there folks... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #71

I would have said the same for your ludicrous claim. Obama might not be another Bush... Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #84

Oh he isn't? Watch and see what happens AFTER his administration ends... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #86

Tell us something we don't know Number23 Mar 2014 #223

Why don't you simply refute it? AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #228

refute what? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #266

...instead of the petty bickering AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #280

Can I refute a analogy between Barack Obama and Justin Beiber? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #267

When someone states an opinion AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #281

How do you refute Obama = Beiber... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #282

With facts AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #283

Correct. nt sheshe2 Mar 2014 #253

D+ OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #123

Had they lost or been captured they would have been executed. nt Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #136

Da fuq? OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #172

I think you have lost the plot. nt Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #185

I think you have lost the debate... LanternWaste Mar 2014 #286

This message was self-deleted by its author VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #139

Did you mean to respond to me? OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #173

Whoops! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #177

Or even had to treestar Mar 2014 #252

You mean those slave owning bastards? phleshdef Mar 2014 #198

Baloney, how did Lincoln put his life on the line? treestar Mar 2014 #251

Washington not only physically put his life on the line, he did something more... Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #261

That was unique to the First President! treestar Mar 2014 #264

We know what they have done. Washington and Jefferson risked their lives, Obama broke promises... Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #275

Oh boy, look at all the fun I missed. Beacool Mar 2014 #273

and your first step is to not refer to all others as "haters" DrDan Mar 2014 #138

its not ALL others is it? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #142

pretty much DrDan Mar 2014 #144

Yeah...that is hating...pretty much isn't it? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #163

The problem is that there is no aggregate progress, through unity or otherwise NoOneMan Mar 2014 #66

That is YOUR cataclysmic interpretation...history of this country does not bear that out. VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #75

Climate change and the environment is my silly pet issue NoOneMan Mar 2014 #88

So fuck EVERYTHING else right? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #91

Everything else is becoming moot real quickly NoOneMan Mar 2014 #94

No it is NOT.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #103

With all due respect, your opinion mean fuck all to matter of science NoOneMan Mar 2014 #117

That is YOUR pet issue...it is NOT the only issue we face Sorry... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #119

That's the political rabbit hole talking NoOneMan Mar 2014 #121

Sorry I disagree with your stance....You want the Green party....they don't mind One issue voters.. VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #135

Existential threats render all other silly pet issues silly. NoOneMan Mar 2014 #196

What threat.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #197

Anthropocene. 6th Extinction. Ocean Acidification. Anthropomorphic climate change NoOneMan Mar 2014 #199

No I didn't but as I said it is not the ONLY thing i am interested in... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #217

Methane is good for the planet. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #249

Mass extinction. Rex Mar 2014 #216

Right wingers don't believe in climate change AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #229

And, not referring to them as "Obamabots" would be a good start. GoCubsGo Mar 2014 #3

I do understand RobertEarl Mar 2014 #7

Why do I dislike it? GoCubsGo Mar 2014 #10

Fair enough. RobertEarl Mar 2014 #14

but you are NOT one so you don't get to decide what THEY want to be called...get it? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #77

I will never understand AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #230

Determining/changing one's position on major issues that affect humanity woo me with science Mar 2014 #193

+1. Ultimately, it's the policies that matter. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #254

possibly they don't like it because it insinuates that they are "robots" duh... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #35

and the term "haters" is not derisive? DrDan Mar 2014 #141

Yes. That, too. n/t GoCubsGo Mar 2014 #158

What do you call those that frequent DU but do not support ANY Democrats at all VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #164

I don't have a name for them. GoCubsGo Mar 2014 #182

Well those described are certainly NOT Democrats.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #195

Why the hell are you asking me all of this? GoCubsGo Mar 2014 #206

What do you call those I JUST described...because LIKE it or not THEY are here.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #218

Yeah, I know "THEY" are here. GoCubsGo Mar 2014 #239

So you believe this site was created to allow people to BASH the Democrats? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #270

Again, please show me how I "have nothing at all good to say about Democrats". GoCubsGo Mar 2014 #272

LOL, why are THEY above have a group name treestar Mar 2014 #256

It's purely descriptive treestar Mar 2014 #255

what a load DrDan Mar 2014 #260

What's an "Obamabot"? n/t zappaman Mar 2014 #5

Indeed ... it appears to be frazzled Mar 2014 #22

+++1000!!! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #37

+1000000 treestar Mar 2014 #258

Why don't you ask someone that started a thread on it and is proud of being one? Rex Mar 2014 #28

that was "owning the term...even though it is used as a perjorative... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #79

There are also some people in the middle. CJCRANE Mar 2014 #6

Get over this idea that all Dems who support Obama are Obamabots who have a 'singular vision of lumpy Mar 2014 #8

Well said. n/t GoCubsGo Mar 2014 #11

The problem is RobertEarl Mar 2014 #19

Being called an Obamabot is not a bad thing? I see. What can make it bad are nasty reactions lumpy Mar 2014 #21

I am open to a new term RobertEarl Mar 2014 #23

The only thing I wish to be labled is 'a Democrat'. lumpy Mar 2014 #26

This. Skidmore Mar 2014 #29

+ 10 billion. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2014 #30

A Quick Hello... KharmaTrain Mar 2014 #90

Hi and you've got that right! greatauntoftriplets Mar 2014 #92

I Hear Ya... KharmaTrain Mar 2014 #102

Nice to see you. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2014 #107

I Lost My Star... KharmaTrain Mar 2014 #116

I think there are a lot of members doing that lately. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2014 #122

You brought it back home RobertEarl Mar 2014 #42

Sorry if you thought my 'assumption' was my questioning your Demo creds. Of course I know lumpy Mar 2014 #61

then STOP calling them that....that might be a good place to start.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #83

+1000 Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #62

+1000 maddezmom Mar 2014 #100

a Democrat is the proper term.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #43

Thank you! babylonsister Mar 2014 #131

Don't think that was insinuated LibAsHell Mar 2014 #205

And considering those "bots" make up anything from 65-90% of the Dem base Number23 Mar 2014 #225

... woo me with science Mar 2014 #13

The RW and the Kochs also use propaganda and disinformation CJCRANE Mar 2014 #15

Nobody buys the garbage anymore. woo me with science Mar 2014 #17

IMO there are two propaganda crews* here on opposite poles. CJCRANE Mar 2014 #18

These have got to be the saddest, most desperate talking points of all. woo me with science Mar 2014 #20

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone RobertEarl Mar 2014 #25

Uh, huh. Keep trying to sell that garbage. woo me with science Mar 2014 #33

Well, here's the thing... CJCRANE Mar 2014 #39

and then claim "They are the true Progressives" and they are the "real DU'ers" VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #45

"generally approve of President Obama and the Democratic Party." woo me with science Mar 2014 #67

They are the majority of Democrats and liberals. CJCRANE Mar 2014 #74

The majority of Democrats and liberals oppose these POLICIES. woo me with science Mar 2014 #81

by the way...Bernie Sanders supports President Obama.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #106

"supports President Obama" woo me with science Mar 2014 #111

Yes he does....do you have a problem with your exhibit A? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #113

"that the president did not renew his proposal to cut Social Security benefits." woo me with science Mar 2014 #143

He said much MORE than that...if THAT is the only thing you saw....then there is your problem VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #146

PLUS A BRAZILLION! Enthusiast Mar 2014 #259

Horseshit. A large majority of self-identified liberals and democrats have voiced their approval ... 11 Bravo Mar 2014 #126

+ a GOZILLION more! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #149

+ a gazillion. nt Mojorabbit Mar 2014 #137

((raises hand)) I know! I know! Number23 Mar 2014 #227

+1 Marr Mar 2014 #99

Perhaps a little less ODS ODS screeching Glitterati Mar 2014 #16

I've decided to give the bots a free pass, after much thought Rex Mar 2014 #41

Not when they abuse those on the same side Glitterati Mar 2014 #44

I mean here on DU, where everyone is already going to vote for a Dem anyway. Rex Mar 2014 #47

I just ignore the RAH RAH posts Glitterati Mar 2014 #52

Only bashing the President and all Democrats except for Elizabeth Warren... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #150

Awwww, you poor thing Glitterati Mar 2014 #152

OOOPS .....must have struck a nerve....you just let down the curtain... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #155

You should try some research Glitterati Mar 2014 #156

I asked a question....which democrats do you support? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #160

And, tell me, exactly Glitterati Mar 2014 #161

"Can't we all just get along?"� Rodney King, ca. 1992 nt brush Mar 2014 #130

It was the young Obamacrats who didn't show up to vote in 2010 dflprincess Mar 2014 #212

No we don't think that treestar Mar 2014 #24

There it is: RobertEarl Mar 2014 #27

but the real truth IS he IS doing everything he can....he is not "the One" there is no One perfect VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #48

I don't know, back in the day we called them Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #134

You did not respond to the point treestar Mar 2014 #200

Your posts are most often well reasoned, thanks. lumpy Mar 2014 #36

Oh ffs, how many times do we have to say it... cui bono Mar 2014 #53

If they don't use that narrative, they have nothing to be outraged about. Rex Mar 2014 #57

And every single one, too treestar Mar 2014 #201

I will bet you that I use any derogatory terms far less than you do. cui bono Mar 2014 #219

Boring. treestar Mar 2014 #250

Then stop complaining about it. Better yet, stop doing it. cui bono Mar 2014 #288

You lost me with "haters". 840high Mar 2014 #125

What do you call those that hate all Democrats except for Elizabeth Warren VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #154

And, I call that a childish lack of critical thinking n/t Glitterati Mar 2014 #159

then please enlighten us about the Democrats that you support..... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #162

ROFL, repeating Glitterati Mar 2014 #165

Yes I am repeating....and calling a woman honey is sexist too by the way VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #166

Sure I could Glitterati Mar 2014 #168

I don't believe you..... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #170

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #171

For the last time...I am NOT your "honey"... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #174

Classic n/t Glitterati Mar 2014 #175

You damn skippy I am! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #179

In case you don't understand yet Glitterati Mar 2014 #184

Of Course not.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #194

Might as well give up on this dual conversation. She is not an adult anymore than the rest lumpy Mar 2014 #204

Who do you actually support? treestar Mar 2014 #202

Someone didn't get far in trying to shut you off. hobbit709 Mar 2014 #32

ROFL, and 0-6 Glitterati Mar 2014 #38

I think it means they can't alert for 24 hours. n/t Whisp Mar 2014 #187

Awww, too bad! n/t Glitterati Mar 2014 #189

Awww someone got a sadz! Rex Mar 2014 #49

Actually it's interesting Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #34

Precisely...we aren't the ones claiming PBO can fix everything with a stroke of the pen. nt msanthrope Mar 2014 #54

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #60

Ya... Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #72

This! mcar Mar 2014 #64

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Mar 2014 #40

This is the wrong tactic to take. cui bono Mar 2014 #46

^^^ THAT is pure unadulterated BUNK! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #50

That is rich. hobbit709 Mar 2014 #51

What an articulate, well thought out, reasoned and detailed response. cui bono Mar 2014 #55

that is all the words necessary for that boatload of tripe! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #63

No it's not. Scootaloo Mar 2014 #68

Yes it is....see the next post...perhaps it covers you too! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #69

Thank you. woo me with science Mar 2014 #97

I'm Cornholio! LOL! neverforget Mar 2014 #129

I need TP for my bunghole. n/t QC Mar 2014 #213

Are you threatening me? hehehe neverforget Mar 2014 #215

I never "compared" anyone to Lyndon LaRouche. VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #167

those are not links to OP's I have ever written.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #169

Yeah, I could link to individual posts Scootaloo Mar 2014 #233

And claims there are lots of duers who "hate every democrat except Elizabeth warren" Doctor_J Mar 2014 #222

This message was self-deleted by its author Marr Mar 2014 #108

Thank you! Excellent synopsis! Glitterati Mar 2014 #58

Or HATE HATE HATE! Rex Mar 2014 #65

Irony completely unrecognized Glitterati Mar 2014 #78

A conversation cannot be had when one side(?) screams Bots, pompom wavers or uses lumpy Mar 2014 #235

You said it very well. nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #73

I know the way I'm going about changing it Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #85

The only problem with mass ignore woo me with science Mar 2014 #87

That was a line I walked for a while Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #89

+1, This has become the emblem of the Obamabots for a reason: Marr Mar 2014 #105

You do not have permission to use that emoticon Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #115

Pardon me-- I should've added the legal notations. Marr Mar 2014 #118

... woo me with science Mar 2014 #210

Hehe... cui bono Mar 2014 #220

LOL Oilwellian Mar 2014 #263

Yeah right treestar Mar 2014 #257

Then argue the policy. It's very simple. cui bono Mar 2014 #285

You owe Obama an apology Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #287

I.O.Obama. cui bono Mar 2014 #290

cui bono is not an apologist. n/t QC Mar 2014 #291

This post would have been more believable without the gratuitous insults. (nt) Skinner Mar 2014 #56

This sad meme of there are more Obama haters on this site than Obama supporters Rex Mar 2014 #59

I have to check the name on the glass door at the entrance many days! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #93

88.999% of liberals approve of Obama Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #96

You know, I've read that over the years and it is one reason I cannot swallow Rex Mar 2014 #98

The hate Obama crowd is pretty slim here Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #101

Very good point. Rex Mar 2014 #104

Look at the responses to any of Manny's threads Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #109

It would be nice if we could stop using Third Way framing woo me with science Mar 2014 #110

Oh no....they are around.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #120

+10000 JoePhilly Mar 2014 #114

it would be a nice idea to get together at least to fight ALEC G_j Mar 2014 #76

I get what you are saying, BUT!!! WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #80

Definite gang behavior. Glitterati Mar 2014 #82

lol Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #124

Not what I said or did Glitterati Mar 2014 #147

Overblown condescension, etc... Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #176

OK, sure Glitterati Mar 2014 #178

Quite. nt Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #191

Irony Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #207

You know what I'm thinking ? You just love to keep using the Obamabot reference against lumpy Mar 2014 #236

If I am called an Obamabot, it will not upset me, do I think everything he does is right and without Thinkingabout Mar 2014 #95

All us Obamabots will be voting straight Dem tickets. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #112

And Some Of Us Who Are Not Will Be Too ... WillyT Mar 2014 #128

Indeed. Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #133

key word: "some" JoePhilly Mar 2014 #148

Let Me Make It Clear For Ya... I Will Be... But Everybody's Voting Frachise Belongs To Them... WillyT Mar 2014 #153

What threat did I make? JoePhilly Mar 2014 #180

More Carrots... Less Sticks... WillyT Mar 2014 #243

Be sure to apply that advice to your OPs. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #245

I Know And Realize That Sometimes The Truth Feels Like A Stick... WillyT Mar 2014 #247

LOL ... JoePhilly Mar 2014 #248

And some of us don't HAVE a Democrat on the ballot Glitterati Mar 2014 #183

Then help out somewhere that does. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #244

I don't do 'the Straight' anything, I vote for Democrats in a decidedly gay way Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #265

Or you just go down the ticket and fill in all the Dem boxes you can. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #269

Indeed. Those of us who exhibit 'critical thinking'. lumpy Mar 2014 #208

Irrational thinking and politics just don't mix. Or rather, they shouldn't. DireStrike Mar 2014 #127

If you ask me, hero worship Glitterati Mar 2014 #188

Yeah, I can't really think of a USE for it. There is apparently a need, though. DireStrike Mar 2014 #190

I think we can probably use Bush as an epithet Glitterati Mar 2014 #192

I think the 'Obamabots" are dangerous in that they work to prevent the type of self-reflection the Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #132

I think you are flat out wrong. Skidmore Mar 2014 #145

So what, do they criticize in private? Where is the self-reflection occurring? When does Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #151

Also, not to be too adversarial, but I find the implication that one who is critical of the Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #157

Most of us could not voice our criticisms with enough vitriol to be interesting here. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #186

Accurate JoePhilly! flamingdem Mar 2014 #231

Excellent posts. nt woo me with science Mar 2014 #211

They are also hastening the demise of the party by cheering for or excusing Doctor_J Mar 2014 #224

Which explains Obama's 2012 lanslide. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #240

Obama supporters on this site range from Vattel Mar 2014 #140

The tone of your OP: we, the supporters of the Democratic President are the 'others' Whisp Mar 2014 #181

"Obamabots" has no place in civil discourse, cheapdate Mar 2014 #203

Exactly. This only causes resentment as is to be expected. I am convinced people this sort of lumpy Mar 2014 #209

Do you think that's why people use ODS, hater, Paulbot, firebagger or emoprog? n/t cui bono Mar 2014 #221

Perhaps lumpy Mar 2014 #232

What makes you so certain of one but not the other? cui bono Mar 2014 #237

A Rec for One of the Funiest Threads fascisthunter Mar 2014 #214

He could have stood on his head for 8 years and still been better than mcnut or prancy horseface rom lonestarnot Mar 2014 #226

Randroid Libertarian Putinista K&R Fumesucker Mar 2014 #234

obamabots are those that condemned Bush but support Obama on the same policies. politicman Mar 2014 #238

Can you imagine ProSense Mar 2014 #241

Good reference Pro flamingdem Mar 2014 #271

An Incoherent Harper's Essay Suggests There's No Difference Between Obama and Republicans ProSense Mar 2014 #242

What cute little word would you use to describe yourself in the political arena? NCTraveler Mar 2014 #246

This post was hidden by jury decision L0oniX Mar 2014 #262

I get what you mean, but most of the time, its the Obama bots who swarm and attack other duers, not quinnox Mar 2014 #268

Not even close.... Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #274

Thanks for this. nt peace13 Mar 2014 #278

Yep, enough is enough. nt Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #279

WOW..... peace13 Mar 2014 #277

Congratulations.... peace13 Mar 2014 #276

Mirror mirror on the wall RobertEarl Mar 2014 #284

Nice call out! peace13 Mar 2014 #289