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29. That article is nearly 20 years old

As for hope... well, like i said, it depends on what sort of "society" you're talking about. So long as there are two humans on hte planet, there will be some sort of human society.

Don't pin your sights on some semi-utopian high tech future, though. The only way to get there is if we throw our remaining fossil fuel energy resources into expanding solar, tidal, and geothermal energy right now. Even then we're going to take a hit when the oil becomes too expensive to pump; our understanding of civilization is as dependent on the by-products of oil energy production as it is on the energy itself.

And of course, it's already too late to stop global warming; that moment came and passed more than thirty years ago. That one's going to hit us, unless some absolute genius comes up with a method of rapid carbon-sinking and storage. Not impossible, of course, but the scale and speed needed mak it an unlikely proposition - like I say upthread, we're not wizards. Climate change is then, pretty inevitable.

We'll live. Lots of other stuff will live too. It'll be a mass extinction, when taken in full... but more akin to the late Pleistocene extinctions; nothing like the K-T event, much less the Permian Event.

If you're asking if out current society, with its nation-states, global trade, electrical and information grids, and all of that will survive? No. In fact the nation-state part of that is already decaying back into tribalism, in large part due to the increasing fragility of oil-based economics and trade - at least in places where nation-sates weren't always a thin veneer over existing tribalism.