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In reply to the discussion: Jimmy Carter says he would consider pardoning Edward Snowden [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)24. You're right
"They were not symbolic at all."
They weren't symbolic. The pardons applied to certain persons who were convicted of draft-evasion.
President Carter, by Proclamation of January 21, 1977, pardoned certain persons who, during the Vietnam War era, violated the Military Selective Service Act by draft-evasion acts or omissions committed between August 4, 1964 and March 28, 1973. If you believe your conviction is covered by President Carters Proclamation and you can provide the required documentation from your criminal case that will enable us to verify that you are covered by the Proclamation, you may obtain an individual certificate of pardon evidencing the fact that this Pardon Proclamation applies to you. The certificate will be issued only if you were convicted of such an offense. If you were arrested for and/or charged with a Military Selective Service Act violation for an offense committed during the relevant time period, but your prosecution ended in some fashion other than conviction (such as dismissal of charges or an acquittal), you are not eligible to seek a certificate of pardon.
Furthermore, President Carters Pardon Proclamation applies only to violations of the Military Selective Service Act by civilians. If you were a member of the armed forces during the relevant period, and you were convicted for a violation of military law, your offense does not qualify for treatment under the Proclamation. A person wishing to seek a presidential pardon for a military conviction may apply for a pardon from the current President under the regular pardon procedure. In addition, the Carter Proclamation does not apply to Military Selective Service Act violations involving force or violence, or to offenses committed by agents, officers, or employees of the Military Selective Service system in connection with duties or responsibilities arising out of their employment. Consequently, if you were employed by the Military Selective Service system and your offense involved your official duties, or if your offense involved force or violence, your conviction was not pardoned by the Proclamation.
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http://www.justice.gov/pardon/carter_instructions.htm
Furthermore, President Carters Pardon Proclamation applies only to violations of the Military Selective Service Act by civilians. If you were a member of the armed forces during the relevant period, and you were convicted for a violation of military law, your offense does not qualify for treatment under the Proclamation. A person wishing to seek a presidential pardon for a military conviction may apply for a pardon from the current President under the regular pardon procedure. In addition, the Carter Proclamation does not apply to Military Selective Service Act violations involving force or violence, or to offenses committed by agents, officers, or employees of the Military Selective Service system in connection with duties or responsibilities arising out of their employment. Consequently, if you were employed by the Military Selective Service system and your offense involved your official duties, or if your offense involved force or violence, your conviction was not pardoned by the Proclamation.
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http://www.justice.gov/pardon/carter_instructions.htm
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"No, because you can't pardon someone who has not been tried and convicted." How bout Nixon?
denverbill
Mar 2014
#1
Remarkable that Carter is unaware that Ford pardoned Nixon who was never 'tried and convicted'...
PoliticAverse
Mar 2014
#2
Lots of us agree with Carter's view on when presidential pardons are appropriate
struggle4progress
Mar 2014
#27
President Carter Pardoned Draft dogers on his first day in office in Jan 21 1977.
Agnosticsherbet
Mar 2014
#3
They were not symbolic. They were charged with a real crime and would go to jail
Agnosticsherbet
Mar 2014
#33
You deal with Obama's sudden idea that the NSA needs changed. Wow, wonder why????????????????? LOL!
Logical
Mar 2014
#10
You took an ass kicking on Snowden and Chained CPI. But keep doubling down! Fun to watch! nt
Logical
Mar 2014
#16
When Grasping at straws.. "LOL, we will soon see you posting hate stories about Carter I assume"
Cha
Mar 2014
#38
If Carter sounds anymore sympathetic toward Snowden, many DUers...
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
Mar 2014
#44
When asked whether he would pardon Snowden today as president, Carter replied, "No, because..
Cha
Mar 2014
#48
Yes he is.. "If he was found guilty and sentenced to death, I would certainly consider pardon,
Cha
Mar 2014
#41
Yeah fresh.. it's so funny that they're not understanding that Carter is on the side of LAW
Cha
Mar 2014
#49
"If he was found guilty and sentenced to death, I would certainly consider pardon," Carter said.
cui bono
Mar 2014
#32
Tell it to treestar. S/he's the one who said Carter "believes Ed is guilty as charged".
cui bono
Mar 2014
#37