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mindwalker_i

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360. Yes, things have consequences, but some consequences are worse than others

Thu Mar 27, 2014, 01:20 PM

Mar 2014

Long term, the failure to prosecute things like torture of theft by banks has huge consequences. Short term, it was convenient. I can see why Obama did it. He really wanted to work on things that would help, and he didn't want his whole presidency to be bogged down in a bitter partisan fight. But now, he's getting that partisan fight anyway - Issa delivers. Also, he's kind of given the Repubs a pass, so they keep doing it (all the while going after Democrats).

Here's the reality we have to deal with: we're the masses. We can be arrested and put in jail in someone in power wants to do so. Often, they do, because it benefits them economically when for-profit prisons get their quota and the people in power get kickbacks. Also, if corporations want our money, they can take it. Have a house? BofA wants it? Bummer dude. Want to change the system? The corporations don't, because it serves them well, and they're people just like you, but will a hell of a lot more influence. We all know that's bullshit, but we also know that the politicians and people with money will come up with twisted logic to support whatever position they want, then they'll go ahead and implement that position. We'll sit here and take it.

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The 'You Did It Too' Line Taken Against Criticism Of Putin In Crimea, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2014 #1

I guess it bothers me because mindwalker_i Mar 2014 #37

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exactly the way I have felt and feel. wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #631

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That is exactly what you risk by failing to prosecute known corruption and criminality, IMHO. grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #584

And I Think, Sir, You Dismiss Other Serious Risks The Magistrate Mar 2014 #586

I'm glad we understand each others position :-) grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #588

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the current sweeping things under the rug... grasswire Mar 2014 #315

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Doubling down on calling the President ugly names MineralMan Mar 2014 #17

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Kick for the ugly truth. Scuba Mar 2014 #21

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"dear leader" zappaman Mar 2014 #460

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Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #28

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Um...yes...he absolutely justified it... truebrit71 Mar 2014 #54

um no he absolutely did NOT justify the invasion ellennelle Mar 2014 #154

Aaah...so you like playing twister too?? truebrit71 Mar 2014 #164

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The American congress voted for the invasion (sort of), and... Blanks Mar 2014 #512

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Right, and since we annexed Iraq, your point is justified... Recursion Mar 2014 #632

No, you're right, we just stayed there for 11 years and fucked it up beyond recognition... truebrit71 Mar 2014 #673

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I'm sorry, how many tens of thousands were killed in the annexation of Crimea...?? truebrit71 Mar 2014 #679

We don't know yet; it just started. Chechnya isn't a good omen. Recursion Mar 2014 #681

Non-one knows what the future holds on anything... truebrit71 Mar 2014 #684

Didn't he express "concerns" about Russians in Estonia? Recursion Mar 2014 #685

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Why would he not just simply say neither actions were right? truebrit71 Mar 2014 #285

I agree with you. Why he didn't use a more direct approach emphasizing how he and most lumpy Mar 2014 #331

I'm baffled too. Two wrongs don't make a right. End of speech. Rex Mar 2014 #372

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Well he did say in his own words he opposed the war. Rex Mar 2014 #404

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You whine a lot! n-t Logical Mar 2014 #580

You follow me a lot! Whisp Mar 2014 #581

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It was quite intentional. nt Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #297

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Pointless. (nt goes here) Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #303

Read the op AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #306

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!!! zappaman Mar 2014 #466

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The title of the OP is unsavory AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #138

which is why Phentex Mar 2014 #416

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That's the word I had in mind. Wait Wut Mar 2014 #97

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I have the same question. Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #264

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Of course we always do.... Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #294

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TOS allows for criticism of Dems. Hissyspit Mar 2014 #499

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Then alert it Einstein! And quit whining! n-t Logical Mar 2014 #555

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Terms. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #317

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''I keep real meat out of this place anymore''... Whisp Mar 2014 #454

OMG zappaman Mar 2014 #472

that becomes the trouble though hfojvt Mar 2014 #482

And a few others. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #483

no rule to extend Kali Mar 2014 #543

DEMOCRATIC underground BainsBane Mar 2014 #562

you nailed it steve2470 Mar 2014 #410

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so so true steve2470 Mar 2014 #591

Thank you! n/t sheshe2 Mar 2014 #439

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you are able to see the sales job and are blunt in your observations Billy Budd Mar 2014 #408

"some people" RandiFan1290 Mar 2014 #308

I am an old military person... N_E_1 for Tennis Mar 2014 #314

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Yes, we've all been wondering cprise Mar 2014 #447

... 1000words Mar 2014 #489

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Thanks Skinner. Cha Mar 2014 #592

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"Throwing it in your face" seems to be sport in this WH... polichick Mar 2014 #53

Rick Warren was the very first notification that we'd been sold a bill of goods... truebrit71 Mar 2014 #102

Now you're taking as aimed at you in some way? treestar Mar 2014 #349

UGH - trash, again. nt UtahLib Mar 2014 #47

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alert it, and please cite the rule violation bobduca Mar 2014 #118

Alert it of quit whining! n-t Logical Mar 2014 #551

If I were you I'd worry more about your own 2 hidden posts you got so soon after cui bono Mar 2014 #653

So don't vote for him again! Phentex Mar 2014 #51

Trashing President Obama is against the DU rules - a banning offense. stg81 Mar 2014 #52

welcome to DU nt grasswire Mar 2014 #257

Says the one who already has 2 hidden posts in their first 2.5 months here. cui bono Mar 2014 #654

for those who were not around G_j Mar 2014 #56

agree Marrah_G Mar 2014 #61

So he was A-OK as long as he said what tickled their ears. BKH70041 Mar 2014 #64

ugh.. G_j Mar 2014 #79

Oh, I'm in agreement with you. BKH70041 Mar 2014 #106

now I get your point G_j Mar 2014 #122

The truth is that Obama condemed the Iraq war; he neglected to stress that truth to his lumpy Mar 2014 #478

Impossible...that's the new Will's photo underneath his post BeyondGeography Mar 2014 #67

Yup nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #68

For those unfamiliar, he literally did WRITE A BOOK on the subject: bullwinkle428 Mar 2014 #75

I own a copy G_j Mar 2014 #201

Some of us were. Myrina Mar 2014 #429

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Your Hatred of the President mrchips Mar 2014 #57

Truth is not hatred. 840high Mar 2014 #76

Teabillies are all confident in their "truth" too. nt Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #93

Its not truth, the OP and anyone else saying Obama is defending Iraq is a LIAR. phleshdef Mar 2014 #228

"You folks"? I'm calling 840high Mar 2014 #545

Twisting and spinning is not "truth." treestar Mar 2014 #364

Your hatred of Will Pitt Marrah_G Mar 2014 #88

I like pretzels, how about you? nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #92

about as much as I like Puzzledtraveller Mar 2014 #268

There is a LOT of that going around doncha'know! Rex Mar 2014 #129

I Don't Hate mrchips Mar 2014 #184

LOL okay........ Marrah_G Mar 2014 #187

Why is that so unreasonable? rep the dems Mar 2014 #293

Because of his postions? Or do you not bother to grasp the content of his posts? cui bono Mar 2014 #655

Whose posts? Will Pitt's? rep the dems Mar 2014 #691

Routinely attacks the president on faulty grounds? cui bono Mar 2014 #697

The hate is directed toward Will Full Ignorance. n/t Whisp Mar 2014 #474

Always a nosh.... Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #212

You might re-evaluate your definition of what you say is "hate"... MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #544

+1 cui bono Mar 2014 #656

Simply excellent. ballyhoo Mar 2014 #60

Welcome to DU. Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #87

Thank you... ballyhoo Mar 2014 #159

NP Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #172

Your used car salesmen posts are nauseating. Voice for Peace Mar 2014 #66

You can always put him on ignore Marrah_G Mar 2014 #69

Or we could put no one on ignore, so we know what is happening to the site. treestar Mar 2014 #353

Trash thread, better yet ignore poster nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #74

Not everyone just ignores what they dislike, Nadin. MineralMan Mar 2014 #89

thanks Voice for Peace Mar 2014 #113

Well, I don't believe that poster will see my reply. MineralMan Mar 2014 #121

i saw it, thanks n/t Scout Mar 2014 #180

^^^^This^^^^^ sheshe2 Mar 2014 #215

You're welcome. MineralMan Mar 2014 #235

Ignore is for cowards. phleshdef Mar 2014 #229

I would not go that far. MineralMan Mar 2014 #237

I don't need to hide someone to brush them off. phleshdef Mar 2014 #238

Right. That's the best approach, I think. MineralMan Mar 2014 #258

thanks Voice for Peace Mar 2014 #108

Iggy LordGlenconner Mar 2014 #133

I agree. pamela Mar 2014 #575

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #72

Use ignore poster nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #81

It works remarkably well. n/t moriah Mar 2014 #85

thanks rudolph the red Mar 2014 #86

PFFFSSSS he is not above the rules nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #320

What's funny is you think you are better than the "swarm" LordGlenconner Mar 2014 #461

Mmmmm...Pretzels.... truebrit71 Mar 2014 #465

Mmmmm.....kidney beans LordGlenconner Mar 2014 #473

Nope not gonna do it...and it's getting sort of stupid to keep repeating the obvious. Sheepshank Mar 2014 #298

I'm glad to see you state your goal so plainly. Marr Mar 2014 #119

...snort... grasswire Mar 2014 #265

Yeah, occupation is not annexation. no matter how many vitriolic posts you spew. Richardo Mar 2014 #73

k/r 840high Mar 2014 #80

Any American President would have responded the same way Auggie Mar 2014 #82

same with Social Security--"aright, we won't cut SS--but it's definitely a big cause of our deficit MisterP Mar 2014 #415

It took you a long while to own up to 'Fitzmas', too. randome Mar 2014 #83

Oh Fuck.....I'm Gonna Throw Up. Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #84

He's always in hiding. randome Mar 2014 #124

logical fallacy MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #549

Imagine the position we'd be in if we'd prosecuted the Bush Administration. Marr Mar 2014 #91

I don't think Iraq refines their oil. Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #94

Until recently, I looked forward to your posts. ColesCountyDem Mar 2014 #95

Sadly, I agree. mountain grammy Mar 2014 #169

I wish we still had the Unrec button just for shit like this. n/t MicaelS Mar 2014 #96

This message was self-deleted by its author CJCRANE Mar 2014 #104

Awesome ... GeorgeGist Mar 2014 #603

Do you pick up your dogs shit when it happens in a neighbors yard? snooper2 Mar 2014 #99

I'll say thank you in advance to the OP. Raine1967 Apr 2014 #715

Obama is trying *not* to steer the car off the cliff CJCRANE Mar 2014 #100

Kofi Annan: Iraq war was illegal and breached UN charter PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #101

William Pitt and his supporters are the reason we will lose the Senate in 2014 stg81 Mar 2014 #103

You know how many people read either nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #117

I disagree leaders are supposed to help us unite the base Harmony Blue Mar 2014 #120

When we lose the Senate, I will make sure I post here who is to blame stg81 Mar 2014 #125

And I will continue to kindly point you to POTUS nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #158

immature and simplistic to think OUR responsibility to act belongs to POTUS stg81 Mar 2014 #203

His words will have far more of an influence on voting behavior nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #220

I'm just gonna leave this right here. zappaman Mar 2014 #475

so you admit you are not capable of thinking for yourself. stg81 Mar 2014 #500

I love personal attacks in the morning nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #501

personal attacks? Well at least I didn't call you PIECE OF SHIT USED CAR SALESMAN stg81 Mar 2014 #504

And we "fucking retards" aka liberals will say in unison: beerandjesus Mar 2014 #230

Basically. +1 nt laundry_queen Mar 2014 #533

If Dems lose - Will Pitt's fault Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #126

If Dems lose, they will pledge to work with the new Republican majority. Maedhros Mar 2014 #183

I have said this before psiman Mar 2014 #250

I am the great Cornholio Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #282

If Will Pitt loses... CJCRANE Mar 2014 #438

Oh fuch yeah ... GeorgeGist Mar 2014 #605

Make up your mind. Is it a meaningless fringe or a crucial demographic? Marr Mar 2014 #134

Such bullshit Marrah_G Mar 2014 #141

Jury Results: stevenleser Mar 2014 #243

yeah Nate was just commenting on that over at 538 Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #494

Sorry but I have to disagree. truedelphi Mar 2014 #507

Stunning…. MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #554

Awesome ... GeorgeGist Mar 2014 #604

HIT AND RUN itsrobert Mar 2014 #109

Some DUers are more special than others. rudolph the red Mar 2014 #110

You're right tkmorris Mar 2014 #145

yes, some have protected sanctuary for political speech. nt grasswire Mar 2014 #453

You have to play with the cards you're dealt, hedgehog Mar 2014 #111

Or you just say...the two aren't the same thing...but they are BOTH wrong. truebrit71 Mar 2014 #127

Be prepared to be told you are not his base bobduca Mar 2014 #137

I found out on Inauguration day I wasn't part of his base... truebrit71 Mar 2014 #143

No mental gymnastics needed, of course now we are both going to get labeled as Putin lovers Rex Mar 2014 #157

You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye Who cheer when soldier lads march by... LanternWaste Mar 2014 #112

Recommend! KoKo Mar 2014 #254

apropo for present company indeed. Puzzledtraveller Mar 2014 #275

Unmetered wholesale theft of oil AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #116

How do posts like this help anything? nt Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2014 #123

They feed the OP's massive ego LordGlenconner Mar 2014 #155

I tend to agree with this assessment of the situation. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #177

But isn't the Short Form of Mr Obama's statement... malthaussen Mar 2014 #128

He could simply say Iraq was wrong and so is Russia's invasion. Rex Mar 2014 #140

Yup... truebrit71 Mar 2014 #146

Not smart politically. malthaussen Mar 2014 #176

Political expediency is what got us into the Iraqi war in the first place. Rex Mar 2014 #179

Maybe you could post some Shock and Awe pics from Crimea ... GeorgeGist Mar 2014 #607

What's "utterly nauseating" is this post. NYC Liberal Mar 2014 #130

130 posts and no engagement from the original author Blue_Adept Mar 2014 #135

Because of the faux outrage nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #150

Oh, I agree Blue_Adept Mar 2014 #168

wrong bobduca Mar 2014 #186

"We did not grab its resources for our own gain." LexVegas Mar 2014 #139

ROFL! Gag choke spew. grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #578

Once upon a time... WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #142

Never apologize for not being a hypocrite Will Marrah_G Mar 2014 #153

What Marrah said Puzzledtraveller Mar 2014 #279

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+1 nt laundry_queen Mar 2014 #534

Awesome ... GeorgeGist Mar 2014 #608

That was before a certain inauguration in 2008 nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #156

because some of us know the difference. mopinko Mar 2014 #162

+10000 one_voice Mar 2014 #485

There are other OPs about it. Look around. nt CJCRANE Mar 2014 #167

Once upon a time you wrote fair posts, pnwmom Mar 2014 #170

Used car salesman, followed by the letters B...U...S...H nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #188

The difference is that this is a Democratic progressive site, not a place to hate on pnwmom Mar 2014 #202

Being critical of the pre...forgive me President, nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #213

I have no problem with criticism of any office holder of any party. Criticism doesn't equal hate. pnwmom Mar 2014 #262

Would you like me to point to editorials from oh WW I? nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #276

This is supposed to be a Democratic and progressive site. pnwmom Mar 2014 #311

You surely know what Will Rogers wrote about Democrats right? nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #324

Well when I googled Obama used car saleman, giftedgirl77 Mar 2014 #434

Great find giftedgirl! sheshe2 Mar 2014 #522

No problem She, I've dropped that bad boy on a couple giftedgirl77 Mar 2014 #531

Wow-- so you just admit it then? Marr Mar 2014 #341

Criticism is welcome. The hating, slurs, profanity, and cursing out directed toward Obama is not. pnwmom Mar 2014 #387

why do you visit the freeps? grasswire Mar 2014 #455

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #231

Too bad President Obama didn't say something like this about Bush and Iraq: Zorra Mar 2014 #255

Being provocative and wrong isn't the worlds biggest sin, provided you're being honest. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #329

Awesome ... GeorgeGist Mar 2014 #609

Spot on. And I'll take it a step further LittleBlue Mar 2014 #334

While DUers aren't required to participate in a thread they start, MineralMan Mar 2014 #144

#142 WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #151

I acknowledged that in an edit to my post. MineralMan Mar 2014 #171

Nice rant Supersedeas Mar 2014 #699

Is this all you do now? bravenak Mar 2014 #149

Aunt Pittypat! JustAnotherGen Mar 2014 #175

Good morning!! bravenak Mar 2014 #197

I feel the same way JustAnotherGen Mar 2014 #208

I was thinking about just getting an absentee ballot or something. bravenak Mar 2014 #225

Ahh JustAnotherGen Mar 2014 #232

Funny how you have to watch what you say, but others have free passes. bravenak Mar 2014 #246

I have to watch what I say on this site all the time nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #388

In my town, in real life, they love the new Will Pitt. It is a tea party place. bravenak Mar 2014 #409

My ignore list is quite extensive actually nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #412

"rarely now post OPs" zappaman Mar 2014 #479

More crud for right wingers to cite against us. From photos, Obama couldn't maintain straight face. Hoyt Mar 2014 #160

Lately, you seem unable to compose any post about the President that doesn't include name-calling, pnwmom Mar 2014 #161

As the various outrage topics die ... JoePhilly Mar 2014 #182

Add OWS and the increasing likelihood that Snowden will never return. randome Mar 2014 #286

Well said pnwmom Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #431

oh, good lord. If you don't like his posts, then use THE IGNORE feature. nt antigop Mar 2014 #595

Why? I have just as much right to post as he does. n/t pnwmom Mar 2014 #596

You can post whatever you want...and people have the right to put you on IGNORE if they don't like antigop Mar 2014 #598

Of course. And your point is? pnwmom Mar 2014 #599

the point was made in post #595. Sorry if you didn't understand it. nt antigop Mar 2014 #600

If I'd ignored his posts, I wouldn't have been able to correct the false statements pnwmom Mar 2014 #606

Your choice...you can CHOOSE to put him on IGNORE. Or not. It's that simple. nt antigop Mar 2014 #616

I choose to answer him instead. You chose to tell me I should just ignore him. I disagree. n/t pnwmom Mar 2014 #617

So, you CHOOSE NOT TO PUT HIM ON IGNORE. That's YOUR CHOICE. nt antigop Mar 2014 #619

When did I say it wasn't my choice? You're the one who told me I should. pnwmom Mar 2014 #622

So you made YOUR CHOICE. Now LIVE WITH IT. Have a GREAT evening. nt antigop Mar 2014 #623

I DID live with it. I said what I thought of his posts, instead of following your wish pnwmom Mar 2014 #624

LOL. What part of post #598 didn't you understand? nt antigop Mar 2014 #625

What part of my reply didn't you understand? pnwmom Mar 2014 #626

"If an invasion and ten-year occupation isn't annexation, then nothing is." theboss Mar 2014 #163

seems like he is trying to weaken and change the meaning of a word, in this case 'annexation' nt Bodhi BloodWave Mar 2014 #510

We SHOCK and AWED those poor fucks libodem Mar 2014 #165

Not fair. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #166

questions steve2470 Mar 2014 #181

Writing to 1,2,4 and some others now Marrah_G Mar 2014 #193

that's good you are being as effective as possible steve2470 Mar 2014 #239

Speaking out is the only way to change things Marrah_G Mar 2014 #249

du rec. xchrom Mar 2014 #185

"The case he made was preposterous." WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #189

The word 'even' iimplies a lot that would not have fit in a speech like this. randome Mar 2014 #224

are you talking to yourself, well replying/talking to yourself? snooper2 Mar 2014 #234

Seems he has chosen to respond to himself instead of those who find this post to be Number23 Mar 2014 #579

Indeed Oilwellian Mar 2014 #342

know what's nauseating? Sheepshank Mar 2014 #191

For the life of me I cannot ascertain a reason why the President would snappyturtle Mar 2014 #194

America’s decision to go into Iraq CountAllVotes Mar 2014 #195

I am often left unhappy with some of the Presidents rhetoric..... NCTraveler Mar 2014 #196

Laughable. Iraq is a corrupt puppet state. chrisa Mar 2014 #211

It's not that I object to your disagreement with the president mountain grammy Mar 2014 #214

I find this post (and several others you have made recently in the same vein) offensive. IdaBriggs Mar 2014 #218

The Hypocrisy is Depressing fascisthunter Mar 2014 #219

that, indeed, is the rub grasswire Mar 2014 #307

Wow. Great example of how PROVOCATION can fail a writer. HereSince1628 Mar 2014 #222

Well, at the very least, you dispelled the notion your last comment was just an emotional outburst. Liberal Veteran Mar 2014 #226

Yes. It sort of makes me wonder if there isn't some 'portfolio management' going on. HereSince1628 Mar 2014 #245

If Obama is a used car salesman, you must be selling door to door vacuum cleaners. phleshdef Mar 2014 #227

Fuller Brushes. bravenak Mar 2014 #269

Nah, Buggywhips. The OP sounds sharp, but bluestate10 Mar 2014 #636

Happy now? lamp_shade Mar 2014 #233

This place used to have standards krawhitham Mar 2014 #242

Clear difference between grabbing land by force versus not grabbing land. See it. nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2014 #244

Utterly nauseating is correct. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #247

He got a LOT of attention for it the first time. PeaceNikki Mar 2014 #252

+1 flamingdem Mar 2014 #271

"American Exceptionalism" on demonstration vlakitti Mar 2014 #256

Simply moronic. rep the dems Mar 2014 #263

Trash this trash alcibiades_mystery Mar 2014 #267

+1 flamingdem Mar 2014 #272

FFS. JTFrog Mar 2014 #270

+1 flamingdem Mar 2014 #273

Haha, Will skewers it again LittleBlue Mar 2014 #278

They are fuming...Pro$ense said he was a racist... truebrit71 Mar 2014 #289

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #292

I have had that one on ignore ages ago LittleBlue Mar 2014 #304

Same Marrah_G Mar 2014 #340

You really disappoint me. WhiteTara Mar 2014 #280

Sorry but I can not agree with you calling the president names. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #284

Will, you used to be worth reading. jeff47 Mar 2014 #288

Obama needs a history lesson in the last 60 years of violent and brutal US Foreign policy Catherina Mar 2014 #296

But you see, he's playing ninth-level ninja chess...or something... truebrit71 Mar 2014 #302

+1000. That was the proper thing to say. It's worrisome that he couldn't say that. Catherina Mar 2014 #344

So that means invading Crimea is ok then? (nt) jeff47 Mar 2014 #309

Nobody invaded Crimea, unless you want to count Nuland and her $5 Billion for regime change. Catherina Mar 2014 #337

I like how you reverse the timeline jeff47 Mar 2014 #345

Lol. Ok. If you and the corporate-owned MSM say so n/t Catherina Mar 2014 #357

Yeah, much better to trust the Russia-owned media on the subject. jeff47 Mar 2014 #362

That all you got? Very sad. The same people who opposed Bush on principle, not emotionally Catherina Mar 2014 #391

You are arguing that one invasion is evil, and another invasion is good. jeff47 Mar 2014 #613

Your list doesn't include the 1953 overthrow of Iran's Mohammed Mossadeq nationalize the fed Mar 2014 #386

You're right. There's a lot it doesn't include Catherina Mar 2014 #406

Something's changed about your posts, Will. CJCRANE Mar 2014 #313

Any thoughts regarding the point Will raised? 1000words Mar 2014 #326

I've posted my thoughts about Will's OP. I've also recced other OPs on both sides CJCRANE Mar 2014 #330

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #435

Here we go again. joshcryer Mar 2014 #323

...in the spirit of Jimmy Fallon.... grasswire Mar 2014 #328

Yep. cui bono Mar 2014 #661

Nothing in that paragraph is untrue treestar Mar 2014 #332

My brain just died. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #339

that's just the doublethink sinking in as history gets rewritten TheSarcastinator Mar 2014 #347

Do you have a real response? treestar Mar 2014 #356

From where I stand, that train already left the station a while back. -nt Liberal Veteran Mar 2014 #359

what? Marrah_G Mar 2014 #343

Says the guy that thinks it is OKAY for the CIA to spy on Congress. Rex Mar 2014 #350

Why should Congress have anything private? treestar Mar 2014 #358

I am amazed you do not see the wrong in your statement. Rex Mar 2014 #367

How is Congress supposed to act boldly in their investigations if the CIA is watching all they do? cui bono Mar 2014 #663

This is why I cannot in good faith take that poster seriously about anything. Rex Mar 2014 #676

outrageous grasswire Mar 2014 #371

I believe the confusion may lie in the posters apparent belief Dragonfli Mar 2014 #618

Just how in the fuck did we "make it right"? truebrit71 Mar 2014 #376

We got out treestar Mar 2014 #418

Um, how about un-killing all of the people that died for bushes lies? truebrit71 Mar 2014 #422

so you were so offended by those words you treestar Mar 2014 #426

You didn't make a point. You said "We got out" and then launched into some word salad cui bono Mar 2014 #664

There you go again Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #430

"We got Bush out of office" LittleBlue Mar 2014 #425

You have quite a low bar for making something right. cui bono Mar 2014 #662

Spin it, Will! Spin it!... SidDithers Mar 2014 #354

LOL, coming from you that is funny! n-t Logical Mar 2014 #553

I'm guessing Obama Bash game is about to end, next up is Michelle Whisp Mar 2014 #687

One thing to disagree with the meaning of a statement... berni_mccoy Mar 2014 #361

Countries deploying troops in the Iraq War coalition: Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #366

and this means what??? Billy Budd Mar 2014 #456

Ah yes, the Coalition of the Billing, as they were popularly known. Divernan Mar 2014 #548

Are you a real democrat guyfromla Mar 2014 #369

speak for yourself grasswire Mar 2014 #380

So calling the current President "a used car salesman" is not ok nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #384

I kind of wince at calling Obama a "used car salesman" CreekDog Mar 2014 #373

I think you're pulling a Shia LaBeouf. Nine Mar 2014 #382

This echoes Skinner's critique above.... msanthrope Mar 2014 #400

That really nails it treestar Mar 2014 #419

agreed ! nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #421

So, what's the alternative? theboss Mar 2014 #383

small picture, 1 issue thinking. this is about halting putin AT crimea. pansypoo53219 Mar 2014 #393

Interesting KOS has had it with the 3rd Way, DLC. Maybe DU didn't change HereSince1628 Mar 2014 #398

#plonk. Good riddance. nt ecstatic Mar 2014 #403

you are nauseating, heaven05 Mar 2014 #414

William Pitt, ladies and gentlleman... Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2014 #424

The beatings will continue until the outrage stops! SolutionisSolidarity Mar 2014 #568

That the Iraq War was the subject of vigorous debate swilton Mar 2014 #433

I don't like the glossing over of Iraq. TBF Mar 2014 #436

Didn't you get the memo? DU is a total fanzine now. nt valerief Mar 2014 #441

Before the stolen election of 2000 this nation had a degree of respect. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #443

Apparently you don't know what the word "annexation" means. Arkana Mar 2014 #452

Hm. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #495

You have much more patience than I do, I feel like I'm watching an occult surface and it's not so AuntPatsy Mar 2014 #612

Puked without The Wizard Mar 2014 #457

I have a feeling Greenwald will be persuing this story from this angle as well. Whisp Mar 2014 #462

Actually, being compared to GG would be viewed as high praise by a true progressive. NorthCarolina Mar 2014 #692

Yeah, but what are ya gonna do? n/t leeroysphitz Mar 2014 #468

MLK said our nation was the Greatest purveyor of violence in the world Billy Budd Mar 2014 #480

this is a dumb post. it shows a lack of serious thought. nt La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2014 #491

I'm starting to wonder about Obama Derangement Syndrome. eShirl Mar 2014 #496

This has been unrec'ed 127 times as of this post. gulliver Mar 2014 #511

I'm not above criticizing the democratic president. boston bean Mar 2014 #515

I would have taken the opposite tack and said, "We fucked up in Iraq and we're sorry." alarimer Mar 2014 #516

I would LOVE to have seen the shitstorm that would've erupted had Obama replied: brett_jv Mar 2014 #518

Meanwhile, in a small basement on the other side of town,....... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2014 #519

He's rubber. You're glue. nt Kahuna Mar 2014 #520

Something is certainly utterly nauseating... gcomeau Mar 2014 #521

Thank you for not allowing the howling Blue Dog contingent to intimidate you, Will. Raksha Mar 2014 #537

THE ARISTOCRATS! flvegan Mar 2014 #558

Ha! ZombieHorde Mar 2014 #634

President Obama is a lawyer and he used a legal explanation of his position Gothmog Mar 2014 #559

It's no wonder Kucinich didn't have an ice cube chance's in Hell as a candidate. Ikonoklast Mar 2014 #571

if my memory serves me, didn't someone we know pretend to work for Kucinich Whisp Mar 2014 #641

'Utterly nauseating" Jesus Malverde Mar 2014 #574

They sure get testy when the facts don't fit their narative, Will. Don't stop pointing out their marble falls Mar 2014 #583

I lost track. Is there a point to this thread anymore? ncrainbowgrrl Mar 2014 #585

"Used Car Salesman" IS TOTALLY innapropriate!!!!! The 'C' should be swapped for a 'W' :-) grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #587

Yeah, its got quite a few miles on it, but JEB Mar 2014 #620

I used to follow you on Truthout.org ALBliberal Mar 2014 #593

Since truth-to-power is the word (O.K., three) of the day, fwiw: UTUSN Mar 2014 #615

K & R GoneFishin Mar 2014 #621

Doubling down I see.....so are you trying to see how far you can push the limits of the VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #627

agreed nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #637

Another push for money and clicks... gulliver Mar 2014 #629

They even admit it outright now.....they think they have quite literally bought DU! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #642

Saving my derision for the pukes. LuvLoogie Mar 2014 #630

This message was self-deleted by its author LuvLoogie Mar 2014 #633

Somebody looking for a hero? LuvLoogie Mar 2014 #635

Well... dhill926 Mar 2014 #638

Given the nature of many of the comments posted here... love_katz Mar 2014 #640

Thank you, voice of sanity. Blue_In_AK Mar 2014 #645

Thank you for your well thought out, reasonable, persuasive post. Divernan Mar 2014 #665

No one has said that.....hyperbolic much? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #677

Well said...Recommend! KoKo Mar 2014 #693

I want to thank you for that, too... MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #704

Obama makes an outright lie. Iraq was a war crime period on point Mar 2014 #660

So what did you want him to say....lie and say that they didn't instead... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #680

While I agree with the sentiment of the post, I would not have said "used car salesman" again. cui bono Mar 2014 #666

Maybe he is secretly enjoying watching a few people here froth and gnash their teeth. Rex Mar 2014 #683

You nailed it! ozone_man Mar 2014 #689

That's President Used Car Salesman to you itsrobert Mar 2014 #695

Russia has 50,000 to 100,000 troops on the eastern border of Ukraine Gothmog Mar 2014 #701

Time to put an end to this nonsense. Pitt supported and embraced John Kerry.. Kahuna Mar 2014 #708