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MindMover

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128. In my research I found that land was parceled to individual tribal members ...

Thu Mar 27, 2014, 02:32 PM

Mar 2014

this is a member that wants his land clear cut ... ?

I have neighbors that park there RVs, boats, trailers, old autos, broken buildings, and many other unsightly stuff all over ....

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I trust Native Americans to know what is bad for my environment ... [View all] MindMover Mar 2014 OP

K&R n/t Aerows Mar 2014 #1

Can you imagine our leaders considering the fallout for generations into the future... polichick Mar 2014 #2

I have worked with Native Americans and find there reverence for the land they .. MindMover Mar 2014 #5

One of the first times I really felt my Native American roots was... polichick Mar 2014 #11

Keep up the good work ... MindMover Mar 2014 #15

You too! :) polichick Mar 2014 #16

generation gap DustyJoe Mar 2014 #3

Come to NW Washington KT2000 Mar 2014 #6

In our little corner of NW Washington..... Capt.Rocky300 Mar 2014 #38

Where is that? KT2000 Mar 2014 #39

Swinomish Tribe near Anacortes. Capt.Rocky300 Mar 2014 #40

I see - KT2000 Mar 2014 #45

We have been following the progress.... Capt.Rocky300 Mar 2014 #57

Exactly this. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #98

I have also seen these conditions brought on by neglect and really a MindMover Mar 2014 #7

+1 ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #8

Aside from outright genocide, the effort to deculturalize American Indians by forcing a slumcamper Mar 2014 #41

AMEN ... and thanks for your understanding .. MindMover Mar 2014 #43

I also am quite fond of the reaction of a Native American elder to our truedelphi Mar 2014 #51

in AZ, most of the state declines to participate in that silliness Kali Mar 2014 #106

I'd imagine that's due more to regional poverty than age... LanternWaste Mar 2014 #12

these are the vestiges of grinding poverty. nt G_j Mar 2014 #26

Really? Come to Appalachia and see what European Americans have done. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #29

generations II DustyJoe Mar 2014 #93

In part this is true Rockyj Mar 2014 #67

Not only visual blight, but pollution and poor resource managment. Cofitachequi Mar 2014 #76

What you might be seeing on the 4 corners is the unholy influence of the white man Stargazer99 Mar 2014 #96

In the Washington mudslide KT2000 Mar 2014 #4

^^^^^This^^^^! love_katz Mar 2014 #42

Posted this a few posts above yours on the thread. Thought you'd be interested. Cofitachequi Mar 2014 #77

Exactly where are you talking about ... ? MindMover Mar 2014 #119

I've worked with Cherokee on and off trust lands in North Carolina and Tennessee. Cofitachequi Mar 2014 #124

Now, you are talking about internal politics ... MindMover Mar 2014 #125

tough folks CountAllVotes Mar 2014 #126

While I know that there's a great number of Native Americans who are environmentally conscious, WatermelonRat Mar 2014 #9

Everyone has one and you are entitled to yours ... MindMover Mar 2014 #10

Yes they are entitled to their own opinion you are right and they are also right in that cstanleytech Mar 2014 #19

My experience is definitely different than yours ... MindMover Mar 2014 #21

I'm not trying to be divisive I am trying to point out people are not superior on anything due to cstanleytech Mar 2014 #25

Sorry but, the KKK is not a race, it is stupid white people ... MindMover Mar 2014 #28

Knowing about racism is not the same as knowing about environmentalism. Racism happens because... Moonwalk Mar 2014 #103

You use the word savage and digress to arguments about racism ... MindMover Mar 2014 #105

Well of course members of the KKK are stupid but its not because they are white its cstanleytech Mar 2014 #155

Call all white people racist because of the KKK Revanchist Mar 2014 #133

"Call all white people racist because of the KKK" Then its a good thing I didnt do that then. nt cstanleytech Mar 2014 #154

+1 Jgarrick Mar 2014 #14

Seriously. eom uppityperson Mar 2014 #30

I know, right? Thor_MN Mar 2014 #44

The reward is small, and goes to a few. The risk is great and goes to many. Scuba Mar 2014 #13

if the bad river have their way unionthug777 Mar 2014 #20

+1! That's the point. Only a few are rewarded but at the expense of millions. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #27

I trust scientists. Gore1FL Mar 2014 #17

I do to, and yes you are correct .... MindMover Mar 2014 #18

Native americans, like many other people and cultures, are much more in touch joeybee12 Mar 2014 #22

and AMEN ... MindMover Mar 2014 #23

True - and that connection is sacred. polichick Mar 2014 #36

Really? homegirl Mar 2014 #74

They probably built there casino on land treatied to them ... MindMover Mar 2014 #122

"Native American" is not a singular culture or people. NYC Liberal Mar 2014 #120

Where do you get your information ..? (hundreds of years before Europeans arrived). MindMover Mar 2014 #123

A few links: NYC Liberal Mar 2014 #129

Thank you ... and yes they had differences ... MindMover Mar 2014 #131

K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Mar 2014 #24

I trust some, not all. No more than all of any ethnicity or race uppityperson Mar 2014 #31

Well said, Jean-Paul ... MindMover Mar 2014 #32

I always knew this was environmentally friendly!... yawnmaster Mar 2014 #33

Ok, I give, is this an underfunded tribal medical complex ... ? MindMover Mar 2014 #34

Oh it is funded... yawnmaster Mar 2014 #35

I will not get into casino/resorts owned by Native American tribes ... MindMover Mar 2014 #37

"Innate"? Brickbat Mar 2014 #59

Humans do not the type of innate knowledge of which you speak eom yawnmaster Mar 2014 #87

If your post could mean something, I would respond ... MindMover Mar 2014 #89

It means that humans are not born with innate knowledge beyond... yawnmaster Mar 2014 #94

You think you have knowledge and understanding and you do not ... bye MindMover Mar 2014 #95

Biology fail. NuclearDem Mar 2014 #121

THAT DOESN'T COUNT. Brickbat Mar 2014 #60

This is rascism and fake spirituality... Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #46

Thank you for alerting me on who to ignore .... bye MindMover Mar 2014 #47

It does have some elements of the "noble savage" cartoon to it. Throd Mar 2014 #53

You might say that, but I could not possibly comment. nt Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #54

Exactly. /nt Marr Mar 2014 #63

K & R !!! WillyT Mar 2014 #48

Thanks WillyT ... MindMover Mar 2014 #49

Anytime, MindMover... Anytime... WillyT Mar 2014 #50

I toss that up to her being a smart lady, rather than because of her race Scootaloo Mar 2014 #52

I trust the Irish to tell me about liquor... AngryAmish Mar 2014 #55

I can tell you about some good cheese and wines ... and I speak one of those funny sounding ... MindMover Mar 2014 #56

And I trust the Germans on matters concerning.... Kaleva Mar 2014 #58

if you have something to say please say it clearly ...nt MindMover Mar 2014 #61

the word, if I can speak for another, is racism. AngryAmish Mar 2014 #62

so I am a racist ... WOW .. MindMover Mar 2014 #64

They should fucking know! They've been fighting terrorism since 1492. lonestarnot Mar 2014 #65

And they have been better stewards of the land than ... MindMover Mar 2014 #66

I don't know about that as I am not familiar with race and stewardship of planet earth. lonestarnot Mar 2014 #68

of course you are an expert... MindMover Mar 2014 #69

Really? What does that even mean? lonestarnot Mar 2014 #70

goodnight ... and good luck with your next 70000 ... MindMover Mar 2014 #71

Right. Sweet dreams. lonestarnot Mar 2014 #72

Absolutely!!! K&R!! hue Mar 2014 #73

I've come full circle from my thinking towards Native Americans ffr Mar 2014 #75

Bravo and thank you for your understanding ... nt MindMover Mar 2014 #79

Hardly full circle. 180 degrees. malthaussen Mar 2014 #82

and yours are greater for pointing out others ... bye MindMover Mar 2014 #91

You are correct. Sorry. An about face. ffr Mar 2014 #157

Would you trust them on their feelings towards the Federal Government? dilby Mar 2014 #78

I trust people from my experience and internal feelings ... MindMover Mar 2014 #81

That is my point, if I took their position I would probably hate the Federal Government. n/t dilby Mar 2014 #83

So your point is ridiculous ... MindMover Mar 2014 #84

My point is you don't blanket support a group based on a person. dilby Mar 2014 #88

Thank you for alerting me on who to ignore .... bye MindMover Mar 2014 #90

"Noble savage" cartoonish nonsense. NuclearDem Mar 2014 #80

Exactly. DavidDvorkin Mar 2014 #102

I trust Native Americans to know what is bad for our environment ... AlbertCat Mar 2014 #85

I and others have already made your important point but thank you for ... MindMover Mar 2014 #86

It doesn't take a report.... AlbertCat Mar 2014 #92

You finally say something that is true and logical ... MindMover Mar 2014 #97

You finally say something that is true and logical ... AlbertCat Mar 2014 #99

And you do not understand or know everything ... MindMover Mar 2014 #104

And you do not understand or know everything ... AlbertCat Mar 2014 #108

I have driven past this place for 20 years. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #100

I think your picture is for this purpose ... MindMover Mar 2014 #113

No, shake mills are uninvolved in clear cuts. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #127

In my research I found that land was parceled to individual tribal members ... MindMover Mar 2014 #128

Forest practices laws in Washington dictate what remediation private landowners must do. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #132

How many acres would you guess is involved in the clear cut .... ? MindMover Mar 2014 #134

The one I have in mind is roughly 100 acres. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #135

Of course you know that this tribe only owns 200,000 + acres ... MindMover Mar 2014 #136

The QIN has sold much of their holdings. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #138

Exactly my point ... sold much of their holdings to the government for pennies ... MindMover Mar 2014 #141

We're drifting off topic. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #144

Casinos? nt mr blur Mar 2014 #101

Because they are primitive and closer to the land? Nothing like a little soft bigotry. CBGLuthier Mar 2014 #107

The first person to call racism is a what .... ? MindMover Mar 2014 #109

perceptive person? eShirl Mar 2014 #130

It's called the Noble Savage stereotype gollygee Mar 2014 #140

Your link points to an obviously ugly portrayal of Native Americans ... MindMover Mar 2014 #146

Well you looked at it for three seconds then, apparently gollygee Mar 2014 #147

This message was self-deleted by its author gollygee Mar 2014 #139

I trust European Americans to know what is good for our economic well being. mathematic Mar 2014 #110

LOL... because it is not true ... MindMover Mar 2014 #111

Which is precisely the reaction sensible people have to your OP. mathematic Mar 2014 #115

Sensible people will understand what my post is about ... MindMover Mar 2014 #117

Your post is about cashing in on longheld racist stereotypes mathematic Mar 2014 #118

I trust humans to know what is good for humans! eom yawnmaster Mar 2014 #114

apparently the Pequot tribe, at least, has other innate knowledge! yawnmaster Mar 2014 #112

That entire complex was made from recycled dream-catchers, so it's OK. Throd Mar 2014 #116

Okay, do you think Jews are better with money and blacks have more rhythm, too? Spider Jerusalem Mar 2014 #137

I believe that Native Americans have an understanding and reverence for the land they stand on ... MindMover Mar 2014 #142

I'm not the one using racist stereotypes here; you are. Spider Jerusalem Mar 2014 #143

That is your opinion ... MindMover Mar 2014 #148

Mine and that of quite a lot of other people on this thread Spider Jerusalem Mar 2014 #149

Racism .... Really ... >? MindMover Mar 2014 #150

You've met definition number 1 there. eom yawnmaster Mar 2014 #151

Yep, racism Spider Jerusalem Mar 2014 #152

Like here!! yawnmaster Mar 2014 #145

Yes that old "noble savage" idea treestar Mar 2014 #156

Native Americans are not monolithic. Kali Mar 2014 #153