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Showing Original Post only (View all)Why Did Obama Just Defend the Iraq War? - Salon [View all]
Why Did Obama Just Defend the Iraq War?By Joshua Keating - Salon
MARCH 26 2014 5:39 PM
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Barack Obamas speech in Brussels was always going to be read as something of a rejoinder to Vladimir Putins defense of Russias actions in Crimea, so its not surprising that the president chose to refute the notion of double standards that has become a central talking point in Russian rhetoric during this crisis.
On the so-called Kosovo precedent, which Putin has repeatedly invoked, Obama had this to say:
In defending its actions, Russian leaders have further claimed Kosovo as a precedent, an example, they say, of the West interfering in the affairs of a smaller country, just as theyre doing now. But NATO only intervened after the people of Kosovo were systematically brutalized and killed for years. And Kosovo only left Serbia after a referendum was organized not outside the boundaries of international law, but in careful cooperation with the United Nations and with Kosovos neighbors. None of that even came close to happening in Crimea.
This is reasonable. As Obama noted elsewhere in the speech, whatever the legitimate grievances of Russian-speaking Ukrainians, theres little evidence to suggest systemic violence against ethnic Russians inside of Ukraine.
But Obamas next point was a bit odder:
Moreover, Russia has pointed to Americas decision to go into Iraq as an example of Western hypocrisy. Now, it is true that the Iraq war was a subject of vigorous debate, not just around the world but in the United States, as well. I participated in that debate, and I opposed our military intervention there.
But even in Iraq, America sought to work within the international system. We did not claim or annex Iraqs territory. We did not grab its resources for our own gain. Instead, we ended our war and left Iraq to its people in a fully sovereign Iraqi state that can make decisions about its own future.
But even in Iraq, America sought to work within the international system. We did not claim or annex Iraqs territory. We did not grab its resources for our own gain. Instead, we ended our war and left Iraq to its people in a fully sovereign Iraqi state that can make decisions about its own future.
This is all theoretically true (though we can debate the degree to which the Bush administration genuinely sought to work within the international system), but it seems a little strange that Obama would choose this speech as a venue to defend a war he vigorously opposedopposition to which in fact largely defined his rise to national prominence...
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More: http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_world_/2014/03/26/why_did_obama_just_defend_the_iraq_war.html?wpisrc=burger_bar
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Says an supposed journalist who can't even check to see if his wife's meds are covered by the new
KittyWampus
Mar 2014
#7
It's the truth. And I would never have posted that until the latest OP from Pitt.
KittyWampus
Mar 2014
#9
I interpreted the President's speech differently than Will, but that's some cheap shit ...
11 Bravo
Mar 2014
#14
To this day, I remain rather ignorant (not willfully) in understanding the entire set of events.
2banon
Mar 2014
#25
"On June 22, 2008, Senator Barack Obama voted against a bill to fund the Iraq War."
red dog 1
Mar 2014
#86
Um. Okay, I give up. Where did he defend the Iraq War? Here?: "Now, it is true that the...
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#34
Funny,....I thought he was telling Putin he should have faked it before the UN like we did.
Spitfire of ATJ
Mar 2014
#38
Hay you know what he could have done. Prosecute the war criminals who got us in to
pam4water
Mar 2014
#40
Riiiiight ... first-ever Black President charges into the WH like a Bull in a China Shop ...
brett_jv
Mar 2014
#53
If there's some inescapable reason why a black president couldn't get done what we needed done
FiveGoodMen
Mar 2014
#108
I find it kind of racist to imply that a black President can only be caretaker/enabler.
TheKentuckian
Mar 2014
#120
I listened President Obama's comments live on my car radio when he made the speech
Gothmog
Mar 2014
#101
The world is also full of morons who don't do nuance... which is why the right wins anything at all.
phleshdef
Mar 2014
#105
I watched the speech Live. All i got out of it is that US sought UN aproval and
darkangel218
Mar 2014
#79