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rhett o rick

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58. We can and should object. We certainly should advocate doing the right thing.

Fri Mar 28, 2014, 10:44 AM

Mar 2014

But we should not use ourselves as an example of a nation that has done the right thing. Iraq was wrong and it shouldnt be portrayed as less than a horrific blunder.

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I am naive. I thought there were limits... places folks wouldn't go. [View all] cthulu2016 Mar 2014 OP

Kick. Squinch Mar 2014 #1

Links please alcibiades_mystery Mar 2014 #2

The nub of the issue is evidenced in numerous threads on this site in the past 12 hours. 2banon Mar 2014 #8

I reject that wholly...the claim is specific and the evidence for it should be as well alcibiades_mystery Mar 2014 #10

Good point. It turns it from a thoughtful OP CJCRANE Mar 2014 #12

It's quite true, and too numerous to count. 2banon Mar 2014 #14

I agree with the previous poster. I haven't seen the type of comments CJCRANE Mar 2014 #16

Be thankful you've been spared... n/t 2banon Mar 2014 #17

I doubt I've been spared. I've read all of the OPs about this issue CJCRANE Mar 2014 #20

hmm. interesting. 2banon Mar 2014 #23

It's not that interesting. I read DU for a hobby and I haven't seen CJCRANE Mar 2014 #24

The OP made a claim...if posts proving it are "numerous," then supporting it shouldn't too hard alcibiades_mystery Mar 2014 #18

You are very concerned with defending non-existent people cthulu2016 Mar 2014 #21

I'm not defending anything: I'm asking you to substantiate your argument alcibiades_mystery Mar 2014 #26

Then you'd have no problems supplying links. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2014 #37

Links to YOUR posts claiming the 2002 resolution authorized the war? cthulu2016 Mar 2014 #59

Nope, links to the ones defending the Iraq war. jeff47 Mar 2014 #70

I have just experienced what the OP is talking about. I was just told here on DU that Bush/Cheney sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #43

Same as it ever was? malokvale77 Mar 2014 #90

If it's too time and labor sensitive for you, it's even more so for those of us who don't believe pnwmom Mar 2014 #22

These posts are EVERYWHERE alcibiades_mystery Mar 2014 #28

Then you'd have no problem supplying links. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2014 #36

There you are, right on time. Would you care to provide some links to the conversation sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #44

according to him it was "legal" questionseverything Mar 2014 #76

Amazing, isn't it? Even Colin Powell doubted the legality they were claiming. sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #101

damn Kali Mar 2014 #3

It is Iraq. It is more important than "sides." Autumn Mar 2014 #4

The President ProSense Mar 2014 #5

If by "yesterday" you mean today, yes. cthulu2016 Mar 2014 #7

Your ProSense Mar 2014 #11

As you wish. cthulu2016 Mar 2014 #13

Shouldn't you be accusing random people of racism right now? truebrit71 Mar 2014 #19

He stated that the Bush/Cheney gang at least 'tried to make it legal'. sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #45

No, he did not. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #74

Kick. Scuba Mar 2014 #6

Happy to see this. We've disagreed on another geopolitical matter, but in complete agreement with 2banon Mar 2014 #9

President Obama is in a tough position, but that's no excuse. Russia is taking advantage of rhett o rick Mar 2014 #15

Too bad he didn't prosecute the war criminals. cui bono Mar 2014 #34

Yes, clearly Russia should be allowed to invade anywhere until Bush is tried. jeff47 Mar 2014 #38

No one is saying that. How dishonest of you to even suggest such. rhett o rick Mar 2014 #40

Well, you are. jeff47 Mar 2014 #41

It kind of puts us in the same position we are claiming Russia is in, doesn't it? sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #46

We can and should object. We certainly should advocate doing the right thing. rhett o rick Mar 2014 #58

it was a moral crime G_j Mar 2014 #25

iraq is the *only* reason obama is president? unblock Mar 2014 #27

Only? Probably not tkmorris Mar 2014 #29

well that's a rather different question. unblock Mar 2014 #30

Yes, but without Iraq, does he beat Hillary in the primaries. That's the question. dawg Mar 2014 #39

One of the main reasons, certainly one of my main reasons for supporting him. sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #47

Do you believe that Obama would have beaten Hillary if cthulu2016 Mar 2014 #53

i think people make far too much of the difference there. unblock Mar 2014 #57

"hillary's iwr vote was widely seen as a calculated political move" Maedhros Mar 2014 #85

^^this^^ malokvale77 Mar 2014 #92

If there is one thing the Democratic Party is missing, it's political courage. Maedhros Mar 2014 #103

hear, hear! mike_c Mar 2014 #31

Shock and Awe ... GeorgeGist Mar 2014 #32

k/r 840high Mar 2014 #33

Well said. Anyone who defends the lead up to the Iraq War should be embarrassed cui bono Mar 2014 #35

That's right! No less than 100% pure anti-Americanism should be allowed! ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2014 #42

So you supported Bush/Cheney's invasion of Iraq? sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #48

Did President Obama declare the Iraq war a mistake in this speech? TroglodyteScholar Mar 2014 #50

What could possibly move you to say such horrible things? cthulu2016 Mar 2014 #51

Because I live in the real world ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2014 #62

You only oppose wars because of "purely nationalistic" reasons? Maedhros Mar 2014 #86

Before you send some farm kid off to die, make sure he's protecting the U.S. ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2014 #88

Nah, I'll just put you on ignore. Maedhros Mar 2014 #89

Yah... malokvale77 Mar 2014 #93

You have it exactly reversed ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2014 #98

Well have it your way malokvale77 Mar 2014 #99

There are more Conservative Democrats than Very Liberal Democrats in the party ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2014 #100

Wow. So you think our illegal invasion of Iraq was fine then? cui bono Mar 2014 #52

Amazing, right? Like only anti-American types could make such a big deal out of the Iraq War. cthulu2016 Mar 2014 #55

Thank you for the thoughtful post n/t TroglodyteScholar Mar 2014 #49

we should have done to the Iraq war what repukes did with Benghazi Skittles Mar 2014 #54

Iraq led to Speaker Pelosi and President Obama BeyondGeography Mar 2014 #56

OMG Skittles Mar 2014 #63

Says the poster who admires the GOP for its Benghazi strategy BeyondGeography Mar 2014 #64

Not the strategy, but the action of investigations. cui bono Mar 2014 #67

There is no constructive point to anything related to Benghazi, it's a full-on loser BeyondGeography Mar 2014 #68

you COMPLETELY missed the point Skittles Mar 2014 #75

Haha, yeah BeyondGeography Mar 2014 #78

It usually does (nt) malokvale77 Mar 2014 #95

LOL Skittles Mar 2014 #71

I just had someone saying we shouldn't prosecute war criminals because impeaching Clinton cui bono Mar 2014 #66

Maybe first you could identify where any U.S. Administration has been tried for war crimes BeyondGeography Mar 2014 #69

Why are you limiting it to US Administrations? cui bono Mar 2014 #77

The correct answer is it has never happened BeyondGeography Mar 2014 #81

Why has it never been done? cui bono Mar 2014 #82

Don't forget, Nixon let LBJ slide, if you want to play the war crimes game BeyondGeography Mar 2014 #83

The Iraq War was not merely exercising military power. You're missing the entire reason it was a war cui bono Mar 2014 #84

I refuse to engage these folk past a couple of posts Skittles Mar 2014 #72

Critical thinking doesn�t seem to be one of their better skills malokvale77 Mar 2014 #96

Check yourself: Speaker "Impeachment is Off the Table" Pelosi bigwillq Mar 2014 #73

I love you kids, envying failed Republican tactics BeyondGeography Mar 2014 #79

Those that have spoken out... malokvale77 Mar 2014 #94

blas�. and welcome to sobering disillusionment. NuttyFluffers Mar 2014 #60

The Iraq war was mass murder IMO. L0oniX Mar 2014 #61

Yes it was IMO. malokvale77 Mar 2014 #97

Now you know. pscot Mar 2014 #65

President Obama is a lawyer and he used a legal explanation of his position Gothmog Mar 2014 #80

Losing the true base Fairgo Mar 2014 #87

Very, very well said. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #91

Well we see who is sincere and who is playing a stupid game. Rex Mar 2014 #102

We're supposed to be the ones who DON'T rationalize evil. DirkGently Mar 2014 #104