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intheflow

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39. What's your point?

Fri Mar 28, 2014, 12:55 PM

Mar 2014

I'm just saying, some criticism is valid. The Warren thing was bullshit and many were calling Obama a homophobe at that time. And they were right to call him out on it!

No person is wholly good or bad. Obama does some awesome things. He also does some shitty things. It's the nature of politics, but it does the nation a disservice as a whole if we only celebrate the good and ignore the bad in our political party's actions. I'm definitely thrilled with all the positive movement our country's taken in GLBTQ equality since Obama's been in office - it's an awesome leap forward in human rights. Meanwhile, we're also struggling with increased human rights violations with expanded domestic spy programs. My support for one does not negate my disdain for the other. It just means I don't see politics through only one issue.

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President Obama gets accused of a lot of shit by some really inept people. Well they can add this [View all] William769 Mar 2014 OP

It's the law what the hell else would he do? upaloopa Mar 2014 #1

Actually..it's not the law. It's a decision stayed pending appeal that repeals a law. The DOJ's msanthrope Mar 2014 #91

Thank you for that.. I was coming back to say something Cha Mar 2014 #101

This message was self-deleted by its author steve2470 Mar 2014 #2

Closer and closer to full marriage equality for our LGBT friends. Good ruling for all of America. nt okaawhatever Mar 2014 #3

Yet sadly, some of those raging against the President are gay and work behind the scenes to destroy kelliekat44 Mar 2014 #63

Well like they say, you can't pick your family. I too, don't understand how a gay person could be a okaawhatever Mar 2014 #65

I just assume it is something I can't understand. AlbertCat Mar 2014 #66

I agree with your assessment. nt okaawhatever Mar 2014 #68

What an idiotic thing to say. Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #4

I know the truth hurts. nt William769 Mar 2014 #6

except in this G_j Mar 2014 #13

Conflating opinion and truth whilst projecting words onto other people... LanternWaste Mar 2014 #32

Nope. I feel sorry for you that you would feel that way. Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #34

Truth, though it may shock, does not hurt demwing Mar 2014 #60

You implied I was a homophobe numerous times go west young man Mar 2014 #92

+10000. polly7 Apr 2014 #148

What truth? cui bono Mar 2014 #97

William believing such is not necessarily the truth nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #137

+100 840high Mar 2014 #23

So it goes....pompoms and all Supersedeas Mar 2014 #72

I Totally Agree Ed S. - Thanks! DevineBovine Mar 2014 #78

I am right there with you. :thumbsup: Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #79

Don't tell me. You're a Libertarian. BlueCaliDem Mar 2014 #127

No, I think for myself DevineBovine Mar 2014 #140

That's what Libertarians say. BlueCaliDem Mar 2014 #141

I guess you told me! DevineBovine Mar 2014 #145

Yeah. I did. But thanks for pointing out the obvious. BlueCaliDem Mar 2014 #146

Games and insults DevineBovine Mar 2014 #147

Idiotic and insulting. City Lights Mar 2014 #80

Thank you Thespian2 Mar 2014 #94

Thanks for not mincing words. It's so over-the-top it sounds... WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #119

As well as, predictably, shot-down BlueCaliDem Mar 2014 #129

To borrow from the best... WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #132

Best what? BlueCaliDem Mar 2014 #133

Would you now? WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #135

Yeah, I would and I do. BlueCaliDem Mar 2014 #142

Say wot, Captain Sensible? WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #143

What's a "wot"? BlueCaliDem Mar 2014 #144

I have a lot of problems with President Obama's policies. cali Mar 2014 #5

Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn. William769 Mar 2014 #7

Unrec. 840high Mar 2014 #25

good for you. And I have no intention of kissing your ass, nor do I give a rat's turd cali Mar 2014 #52

Just trolling for reactions, OP is in my opinion. PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #10

Ditto! Obama is socially liberal (great), but Dustlawyer Mar 2014 #31

Yes. And I am more and more convinced that being socially liberal while being cali Mar 2014 #54

I think it's a misdirection. A very intentional misdirection that is meant as a convenient cover Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #95

Ed, cali Mar 2014 #99

But every time you toss Obama under the bus you help those very same homophobes. baldguy Mar 2014 #102

My sentiments exactly... Larry Ogg Mar 2014 #104

Must be nice being in the straight majority Politicub Mar 2014 #106

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #111

You wish to smear anyone who says something bad about Obama, but cover it with "general terms". DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2014 #8

Wow, good thing I don't have a problem with Obama anymore. Rex Mar 2014 #12

Very shitty post, Bill. Very. Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #9

Results of an alert on this OP. In_The_Wind Mar 2014 #11

quot homines tot sententiae demwing Mar 2014 #64

LOL! sheshe2 Mar 2014 #85

yup In_The_Wind Mar 2014 #88

... sheshe2 Mar 2014 #89

Yet another stellar example of DUers who don't know what it means to be a juror. cui bono Mar 2014 #98

Thanks for that, In The Wind. Cha Mar 2014 #103

You're welcome, Cha. In_The_Wind Mar 2014 #109

Somebody actually alerted on this OP? Jamaal510 Mar 2014 #115

I didn't see anything wrong either. In_The_Wind Mar 2014 #139

I'm embarrassed for my state and all the sufrommich Mar 2014 #14

+1 gollygee Mar 2014 #22

There are still moderate Republicans. SwankyXomb Mar 2014 #37

I wouldn't call people homophobes BainsBane Mar 2014 #15

I agree 100% gollygee Mar 2014 #19

I notice they makes very offensive blanket statements. Rex Mar 2014 #20

I agree with your assesment. William769 Mar 2014 #21

Kind of like this? SunsetDreams Mar 2014 #48

Absolutely spot on! n/t Whisp Mar 2014 #57

Exactly. Dismissive and blind to all of society's ills except those created by the Third Way Number23 Mar 2014 #83

Only if they were so concerned with class BainsBane Mar 2014 #93

Oh fer chrissake... tkmorris Mar 2014 #16

Where is The List anyway? Newsjock Mar 2014 #17

I get it, insinuate ppl are homophobes G_j Mar 2014 #18

UNRec, bvar22 Mar 2014 #24

And typical of the BOG Doctor_J Mar 2014 #45

LOL. bvar22 Mar 2014 #49

And Pitt is the voice of reason. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #86

I remember when a very vocal group of DUers intheflow Mar 2014 #26

I also remember a Group that was very silent or made excuses. William769 Mar 2014 #27

What's your point? intheflow Mar 2014 #39

I think my point is quite clear. William769 Mar 2014 #41

Apparently not, since I questioned it. intheflow Mar 2014 #42

Ouch Doctor_J Mar 2014 #90

the one thing i will disagree with you about, is the raging homophobes comment La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2014 #28

I agree with that. William769 Mar 2014 #33

i do think that a lot of criticism of him comes from people who ignore the context La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2014 #36

Agreed! William769 Mar 2014 #40

They probably will try Jamaal510 Mar 2014 #116

Can I not be for marriage equality PrestonLocke Mar 2014 #29

Great question. I have no problem squaring those two ideas. Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #77

But I oppose Obama's stance regarding adopted children of these couples NoOneMan Mar 2014 #30

I agree William769..some here are homophobes… Tikki Mar 2014 #35

"We can't be progressive if we aren't for equality. There is no middle ground on this." Ohio Joe Mar 2014 #46

DU was pro-equality long before Obama "evolved." WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #117

I do…one sits in a portion of Rome Italy. Tikki Mar 2014 #120

Maybe The Pope just needs time to "evolve," like Obama. (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #121

I don't see that happening…No where can the pope justify an evolving on equality in his structure. Tikki Mar 2014 #122

I remember DU chewing up and spitting out Dr. Ben Carson. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #124

Look, if someone wants to love the pope and admire carson that is their prerogative... Tikki Mar 2014 #125

This exchange brings me back to... WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #128

Today President Obama knows...he could have known sooner and maybe he did Tikki Mar 2014 #131

Seems he finally acted when deep-pocketed Hollywood... WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #134

That could be one interpretation... Tikki Mar 2014 #136

I disagree with some of his policies but have no problem with the man. He is imperfect, doing what uppityperson Mar 2014 #38

so anyone who opposes TPP is a racist AND a homophobe Doctor_J Mar 2014 #43

I read that earlier and my GOD I'm so happy - K & R! Iliyah Mar 2014 #44

No. Heidi Mar 2014 #47

Maybe you only notice the "racist" anti-Obama complaints, but that's just what hits your radar. lark Mar 2014 #50

Actually, Bill is very likely to see the "anti-gay" complaints more readily, as he is gay. Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #53

Yea, but Obama didn't want to do that ... Putin made him do it. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #51

I have a number of problems with Obama. None of which have anything to do with gays. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #55

K&R! unfortunately good news doesn't sell as well as shitting in public! n/t Whisp Mar 2014 #56

I almost feel sorry for folks who seek out things to be outraged about. Liberal Veteran Mar 2014 #58

Not even a used car salesman Jamaal510 Mar 2014 #118

Good on him! riqster Mar 2014 #59

If a mafia kingpin is kind to his mother, does that excuse the killings he orders? FiveGoodMen Mar 2014 #61

And what about John Wayne Gacy the killer clown who murdered 33 young men and boys... Larry Ogg Mar 2014 #108

problem with Presdient Obama, they are fucking raging homophobes and can kiss my all American ass BlueJac Mar 2014 #62

Excellent news ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #67

That's cuz you are awesome! Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #73

Aw ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #74

. libodem Mar 2014 #69

.. William769 Mar 2014 #70

Michigan Is A Real Basket Case DallasNE Mar 2014 #71

"I am speaking in general terms". Well, nevermind! that's okay then! lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #75

It is only bad if other people do it. Rex Mar 2014 #82

"are fucking raging homophobes" progressoid Mar 2014 #76

Unrec for the broad-brush accusation bolded at the end. City Lights Mar 2014 #81

“I have determined that the same-sex marriages performed last Saturday in Michigan will be Cha Mar 2014 #84

But but but, sheshe2 Mar 2014 #87

So any "people that have a problem with...Obama...are fucking raging homophobes" then? flvegan Mar 2014 #96

"Full faith and credit" coming right up, kids. POTUS is really giving marriage equality a good shove Hekate Mar 2014 #100

Just to clarify... chompers Mar 2014 #105

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #107

Results of the alert on post #107 ljm2002 Mar 2014 #110

Could you point out where in the OP he does this... one_voice Mar 2014 #112

You know what, you're right... ljm2002 Mar 2014 #123

I can see how you'd think.. one_voice Mar 2014 #126

Of course it's a jab. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #130

Yep, and all minority lesbians who have problems with Obama are misogynistic racist homophobes. Zorra Mar 2014 #113

Unrec. Absolute nonsense. Owl Mar 2014 #114

Please stop these incessant posts. Get over it already. Just because rhett o rick Mar 2014 #138