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In reply to the discussion: Is it time for a "fatwa" from Skinner? [View all]BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)There is no doubt that H Clinton and B Obama are the sorts of politicians who talk liberal and act center -- and often far right of center. I mean, we wouldn't confuse Obama/Clinton with Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders -- or even Barbara Boxer or Al Franken. That is plain for anybody to see. I don't think there would be any debate about that. And your argument is that there are a large number of people on the site these days who reflexively defend either Hillary or Obama practically 100% of the time.
But not everything Clinton or Obama supports is to the right of Nixon or Eisenhower. Some of their positions could certainly be considered at least a little liberal.
So I don't know how one makes a litmus test here. I would turn it around. Several of us have spent some time over the past few days identifying what a 2014 Democrat's version of the old Contract with America might look like. We came up with 9 points that any real Democrat should support. I'd like to think that about 95% of the people here could support this plan, and the other 5% really should be gone. This is not a far liberal agenda. It is actually positions that polls show us have 70% - 80% support across the American public. In other words, we don't have to pursue a radical agenda to make some progress in this country. We just have to pressure the leaders to work for the majority of Americans and not for the 0.1%. Here is that plan:
