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etherealtruth

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182. DU feels more like a "general" political discussion board

Fri Mar 28, 2014, 06:39 PM

Mar 2014

.... with the absence of advocacy for Republican candidates. I have no idea whether (in the end) that is good or bad for DU (I do know how I feel about it).

Sexism, racism, homophobia is generally tolerated (with the exception of brand new posters) ... These are not progressive (liberal or Democratic ideals). I view this as a sea change .... admittedly, there has always been a little bit of elitism (I would guess that DUers are a little better educated, a little better employed and a little more culturally engaged than J.Q Public) .... but, there was not a tolerance for bigotry. As the admin of this site I wonder what the vision is for the site .... a place for ALL view points (including decidedly unprogessive sexist, racist and homophobic ideas) .... a place for liberal ideas, a place to solely support the Democratic party .... ? DU is defining itself .... and there still are bright spots (from a liberal point of view) .... but the blight has permeated DU.

I realize my post appears whiny .... or "meta", but I truly am looking for DU to redefine or better define itself.

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Is it time for a "fatwa" from Skinner? [View all] kentuck Mar 2014 OP

Fat what ? dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #1

It's an egg based Italian dish. Glassunion Mar 2014 #20

Mmmmmmmmm mmmmmm Champion Jack Mar 2014 #46

I once dated an Italian dish Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #130

More importantly Glassunion Mar 2014 #143

I thought he said flattire.... Javaman Mar 2014 #102

Or battery ? dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #107

I say we take those two conservative/non-progressive guys out back and waste them BeyondGeography Mar 2014 #2

++++1 Tarheel_Dem Mar 2014 #5

LOL. wall_dish Mar 2014 #50

Welcome to DU, wall_dish! calimary Mar 2014 #140

Thank you calimary. wall_dish Mar 2014 #144

Nahhh! Just kneecap them! LongTomH Mar 2014 #153

Skinner should issue a Fat Burger LittleBlue Mar 2014 #3

Hmmm...if Skinner is not hungry, I am. Rex Mar 2014 #17

I'll take mine without the bacon Aerows Mar 2014 #19

Actually keep the bacon, add some chili and a fried egg.. truebrit71 Mar 2014 #97

Oh man Aerows Mar 2014 #118

Which is why I only have that once a year when I visit So. Cal... truebrit71 Mar 2014 #125

Mmm fries CFLDem Mar 2014 #31

I want onion rings! RKP5637 Mar 2014 #66

Sometimes when you go to Burger King CFLDem Mar 2014 #69

LOL, yep, same here! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2014 #78

I've never liked BK's onion rings. They are more like onion fritters shaped into rings. To me, a genwah Mar 2014 #133

BK's rings are absolutely gross. JimDandy Mar 2014 #137

pop eyes onion rings are the best thing on the menu AngryAmish Mar 2014 #155

Or get the $1 Rodeo Burger blueamy66 Mar 2014 #235

OMG. That looks fantastic. cyberswede Mar 2014 #47

I'll take 2! Champion Jack Mar 2014 #48

Oh god, don't get started with that NickB79 Mar 2014 #86

DUzy!!! ROFL!!!! calimary Mar 2014 #139

That would be entertaining. I wonder if I'd survive. nt el_bryanto Mar 2014 #4

I would prefer that he issue a falafel, QC Mar 2014 #6

LOL JohnRogan Mar 2014 #57

Falafels for all! Hekate Mar 2014 #132

in others words: youre different so out you go. or we dont want your kind round these parts. leftyohiolib Mar 2014 #7

Only if you are more like "them" than us. kentuck Mar 2014 #11

+1000 MissDeeds Mar 2014 #159

There is Defintely a Right vs Left Ideological War going on here fascisthunter Mar 2014 #8

more like Pragmatist v. Ideologue KittyWampus Mar 2014 #13

more like... centrist vs liberal fascisthunter Mar 2014 #18

Or maybe Republican policies vs Dem policies within the Dem Party. polichick Mar 2014 #56

you expected iamthebandfanman Mar 2014 #74

I agree. Most folks agree on what they would like to see. We just don't agree... stevenleser Mar 2014 #23

and THERE is the Realists part.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #217

Yep. MLK was a real trouble-maker he was. cui bono Mar 2014 #226

Comparing yourself to MLK is the epitome of delusions of grandeur.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #239

I am sure in these days and times Teabagger Congress and all.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #241

Prosecuting known torturers is hardly utopian, is it? grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #228

Then maybe it wasn't ABOUT you either.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #240

That's basically it. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #119

I think you're right about that Warpy Mar 2014 #136

omg continental all the way laundry_queen Mar 2014 #209

Agreed, the English do everything backward Warpy Mar 2014 #221

Here's a great example: AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #174

Personally, I think that someone who endorses a Conservadem candidate Art_from_Ark Mar 2014 #224

+1000 nt MsLeopard Mar 2014 #242

Or Realists vs Idealists... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #215

No, that is not true. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2014 #64

But if Skinner tombstoned anyone who called a poster "Right-Wing" Demeter Mar 2014 #72

You might have to swear off food for a while DFW Mar 2014 #230

Centrists are to the right of what you call "far left". fascisthunter Mar 2014 #73

But there are virtually none on DU. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2014 #80

Hmmmm. fascisthunter Mar 2014 #89

That's a strong point. The practical problem is that it is not consistent across all issues BlueStreak Mar 2014 #114

+1 an entire shit load! Enthusiast Mar 2014 #233

IDK. ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2014 #9

Those who oppose unions may need to spend time doing research to learn Thinkingabout Mar 2014 #25

That is a good point - TBF Mar 2014 #34

It's time ban all DINOs CJCRANE Mar 2014 #10

I think, just to be safe, we should get rid of everybody but CJCRANE. nt el_bryanto Mar 2014 #14

That should just about do it CJCRANE Mar 2014 #33

Good one brush Mar 2014 #126

Hmm...a guy wonders just who you mean. MineralMan Mar 2014 #21

Can't help but think of this... Scootaloo Mar 2014 #44

... CJCRANE Mar 2014 #68

"But we don't want the Irish!" riqster Mar 2014 #101

Could you repeat that? I'm taking notes! LongTomH Mar 2014 #154

hahahaha Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #81

Roh oh L0oniX Mar 2014 #198

I wish I were here in those early days, because this is friggin' tiresome. Squinch Mar 2014 #12

Do they serve Waffles? Katashi_itto Mar 2014 #156

I see the kindergarten contingent has arrived. Squinch Mar 2014 #166

You were here first Katashi_itto Mar 2014 #181

I'm not really seeing any "conservative and non-progressive" MineralMan Mar 2014 #15

Off the top of my head... kentuck Mar 2014 #24

Nobody defended the Iraq war; they defended a comment that didn't even defend the Iraq war BeyondGeography Mar 2014 #29

Well, it's good to get that cleared up.. kentuck Mar 2014 #38

Unfortunately, we've already established that group wants to interpret things in such a way to be stevenleser Mar 2014 #49

The OP's "fatwa" might as well be extended to anyone with basic reading comprehension BeyondGeography Mar 2014 #85

That's the way I see it too Progressive dog Mar 2014 #96

yep you nailed it nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #173

Well, that leaves me off your list, then. MineralMan Mar 2014 #42

Seriously? BainsBane Mar 2014 #148

I'm pretty much a GD guy. MineralMan Mar 2014 #151

No, because many of those same people BainsBane Mar 2014 #160

If they say they will not vote for Democrats, MineralMan Mar 2014 #162

That's what I see this OP as being about BainsBane Mar 2014 #163

All anyone can do, then, is alert on such posts. MineralMan Mar 2014 #164

Someone dares criticize the president on one issue and you think Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #16

Oh c'mon Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #22

True, but... Violet_Crumble Mar 2014 #231

I didn't read the OP like that whatsoever NoOneMan Mar 2014 #43

I read it as wanting the non-Democrats BainsBane Mar 2014 #195

I think some should be careful what they ask for. NCTraveler Mar 2014 #26

I don't know about fatwas, but this is NOT a progressive, liberal, or even Democratic website. Sheldon Cooper Mar 2014 #27

I'm hating the atmosphere that's developed here: BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2014 #84

I find it hard to get balanced information as well. Sheldon Cooper Mar 2014 #91

yep... BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2014 #109

The entertainment factor is one good side-effect. Sheldon Cooper Mar 2014 #111

lol! BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2014 #113

Well said, Blanche. nt Hekate Mar 2014 #138

thanks Hekate.. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2014 #142

Right on, Blanche! llmart Mar 2014 #190

Plus a million. I saw a snotty little comment yesterday deriding someone that didn't have a star Number23 Mar 2014 #168

I caught that too Cirque du So-What Mar 2014 #177

Exactly. I've had plenty of stars by my name in the past. Not any more. Number23 Mar 2014 #192

I saw that too BainsBane Mar 2014 #194

So how would we handle it if the "conservative opinion" happens to also be the Administrations hughee99 Mar 2014 #28

This is the conundrum. ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2014 #45

Let's start with the resident Libertarians, because the mission of this board is partisan for Dems.. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2014 #30

The definition of libertarian has been deformed by the BOG Doctor_J Mar 2014 #51

Hit a nerve? Tarheel_Dem Mar 2014 #58

LOL, now there's the humor! Iliyah Mar 2014 #82

more like missed a target Doctor_J Mar 2014 #94

You mean "morons" like these? Tarheel_Dem Mar 2014 #112

A realist knows that you don't get very far without compromise somewhere... Hip_Flask Mar 2014 #32

And a poker player knows that if you have a "full house", Art_from_Ark Mar 2014 #225

It's hardly surprising to me BainsBane Mar 2014 #35

That's a good point. I don't know if it's an across the board condition. el_bryanto Mar 2014 #40

"Self-absorbed nihilism" comes about as close as I've seen to capturing it. stevenleser Mar 2014 #67

I think for some ... JoePhilly Mar 2014 #120

That is misguided BainsBane Mar 2014 #131

I tend to agree with your assessment ... JoePhilly Mar 2014 #152

Reminds me of Christians who long for the Rapture-- only total destruction will bring Jesus, or... Hekate Mar 2014 #145

Which opinion now prominent on DU concerns you the most? (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #36

Are you suggesting that Skinner get rid of the BOG or something? NoOneMan Mar 2014 #37

You can't educate people in internet discussion Scootaloo Mar 2014 #52

I think it is unfair to describe any DU mod or admin action as a "fatwa" Yo_Mama Mar 2014 #39

The consequences of the jury system Renew Deal Mar 2014 #41

Framing fail.... Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #53

This... one_voice Mar 2014 #59

Like I said.... Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #70

I find the fan club aspect TBF Mar 2014 #54

I'd like to see the SOP of GD enforced. That would help a lot. Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #55

And the TOS while we are at it. stevenleser Mar 2014 #63

Become a GD host, then. MineralMan Mar 2014 #65

No thanks, I don't like what I see of the backstage culture here. I'd like to see those who Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #172

There was an Admin decision to be more open to conservative and non-progressive opinions? Ohio Joe Mar 2014 #60

they have stated anti-choice opinions are welcome fizzgig Mar 2014 #146

I knew we had anti-choice assholes here... Ohio Joe Mar 2014 #171

i cannot belive they tolerate it fizzgig Mar 2014 #178

We're going to need some duct tape. /nt pintobean Mar 2014 #61

... TBF Mar 2014 #117

no, I think it's time to shift the discussion to something like alternative medicine, E-cigarettes, Douglas Carpenter Mar 2014 #62

In other words donco Mar 2014 #71

Half of DU would be wiped out. Puzzledtraveller Mar 2014 #75

I think if most everyone just smoked a "fat one", it might lighten up n/t seveneyes Mar 2014 #76

With a couple chasers too. Puzzledtraveller Mar 2014 #79

Maybe part of the problem is too many chasers. flying rabbit Mar 2014 #100

OOh! Can I declare a fat one too? demwing Mar 2014 #116

Right? Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #212

The only purge that will happen, in that case, LWolf Mar 2014 #77

Sounds like a very conservative thing to do actually. Fearless Mar 2014 #83

I used to be comfortable here knowing that the repukes were not here and if Maraya1969 Mar 2014 #87

I am deeply hopeful this is satire. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #88

Sorry, I meant to put in quotations.. kentuck Mar 2014 #123

Conservative trolls get banned... SidDithers Mar 2014 #90

Conservative Canadian trolls seldom get banned Dragonfli Mar 2014 #196

Conservative trolls get banned, regardless of their nationality... SidDithers Mar 2014 #197

If they are banned why is it I read their posts HERE? Dragonfli Mar 2014 #210

MIRT and admins ban conservative trolls everyday... SidDithers Mar 2014 #211

What about the moderate trolls? U4ikLefty Mar 2014 #227

There is much more to trolling than left-right political spectrum position. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2014 #237

No, but it'd be nice to see a crackdown on pure propaganda Corruption Inc Mar 2014 #92

Nah... I just think Folks Should Cool it a Little fascisthunter Mar 2014 #93

Good timing. Brown shirts are on sale at Penneys. n/t jtuck004 Mar 2014 #95

Usually I only trash gun threads in gd geckosfeet Mar 2014 #98

I have racked up over 60 jury appearances since Oct. Brigid Mar 2014 #99

I notice that the threads that we agree on sink like stones. LiberalAndProud Mar 2014 #103

~~~~~~~~~^THIS nt~~~~~~~~~~ SunsetDreams Mar 2014 #121

Is this how the zombie apocalypse starts? nt Javaman Mar 2014 #104

I long for these days: ProSense Mar 2014 #105

Give it 24 business hours. nt msanthrope Mar 2014 #201

No nt hack89 Mar 2014 #106

Bringing back Unrec would eliminate the problem IMO. tridim Mar 2014 #108

I agree, I think that would help. laundry_queen Mar 2014 #213

unrec was a good thing nt justabob Mar 2014 #218

Purge!! Purge!!! CBGLuthier Mar 2014 #110

Much as I would like to agree Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #115

Yikes! Sensor other's "opinions"?!? SoapBox Mar 2014 #122

A fatwa? Is that something you put on pizza? NuclearDem Mar 2014 #124

Fatwa was what we called my cousin, Fat Wally when I was a kid. The term must bluestate10 Mar 2014 #220

Fat Chance. Nt Hekate Mar 2014 #127

Times do change..... BlueJac Mar 2014 #128

Yes, they do. kentuck Mar 2014 #135

Yes, so true BlueJac Mar 2014 #150

There was a very recent post by a self-described NC Dem Doctor_J Mar 2014 #206

If Skinner wants a fatwa, he'll create one. riqster Mar 2014 #129

I agree get the red out Mar 2014 #134

Some of the really obviously conservative right-wingers should be banned. JDPriestly Mar 2014 #141

"Nonsense posts?" Sometimes, the only way to respond to a GD barroom brawl is with humour! LongTomH Mar 2014 #158

If you think a post is nonsense, then put the person who posted it on 'ignore' muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #186

We've had to put up with a lot of RW crap BainsBane Mar 2014 #147

So who are these non-Democrats you keep posting about in this thread? NutmegYankee Mar 2014 #185

people who openly say BainsBane Mar 2014 #187

I haven't come across any. NutmegYankee Mar 2014 #188

look in the thread BainsBane Mar 2014 #193

I prefer a good old Stalin-esque purge, mahself... AzDar Mar 2014 #149

You misspelled "forgotTen" underpants Mar 2014 #157

Thanks! kentuck Mar 2014 #165

But it was a good try underpants Mar 2014 #170

Like you, I've been here from the beginning Gman Mar 2014 #161

You've been called a corporatist? DFW Mar 2014 #229

I'm amused at everyone's confidence that they wouldn't be on the receiving end of the purge club. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #167

My first post (and probably only) KapUSMC Mar 2014 #169

Welcome to DU, friend. AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #176

I Have Seen Worse Analysis Of The Place, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2014 #180

some here don't care about winning elections, they just want to rant and rave OKNancy Mar 2014 #189

Hoo Boy, I'll say. Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #207

Why should we? We won huge in 2008 and got nothing but Republican policies for it Doctor_J Mar 2014 #208

The party has also "drifted." polichick Mar 2014 #214

If the ultimate goal is to win elections? kentuck Mar 2014 #191

Re: If the ultimate goal is to win elections? KapUSMC Mar 2014 #205

Respectfully, what issues would you like to see us compromise with the right on? Hippo_Tron Mar 2014 #216

Elections these days NEVER bring about results "that we want." DFW Mar 2014 #232

Welcome to DU and I would like to share my opinion with you Samantha Mar 2014 #199

why do the votes have to come from the center? justabob Mar 2014 #219

Obama is ideologically right of center... MellowDem Mar 2014 #234

"if the ultimate goal is to win elections" TBF Mar 2014 #244

no Skittles Mar 2014 #175

i know very little about former DU policies since I am new here Shoulders of Giants Mar 2014 #179

DU feels more like a "general" political discussion board etherealtruth Mar 2014 #182

I had no idea Skinner was an Imam. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2014 #183

This message was self-deleted by its author cherokeeprogressive Mar 2014 #184

I'd gladly accept a fatty from Skinner... L0oniX Mar 2014 #200

You think because there is a D in the White House... Deep13 Mar 2014 #202

Why not just put people on ignore ZombieHorde Mar 2014 #203

Wouldn't that make it...a skinnywa? nt pinboy3niner Mar 2014 #204

You got it. Stand and Fight Mar 2014 #222

No. It's time for DUers to stop getting the vapors about the breadth of views in our party. Recursion Mar 2014 #223

Some of us came here to fight against the neocons go west young man Mar 2014 #236

Well said! another_liberal Mar 2014 #243

A call for eliminating opposing points of view is not progressive, or democratic. another_liberal Mar 2014 #238