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In reply to the discussion: NATO country (Turkey) just caught planning a false flag attack to jumpstart war against Syria [View all]Catherina
(35,568 posts)3. All week long, Turkish media has been carrying stories about a supposed tomb threat by ISIL
You'll get no argument from me about Erdogan being a terror promoter.
The puppet, lying media reported that the threat was that if the Turkish flag above the tomb was not lowered then the terrorist group would attack the tomb.
Daily Sabah, 26.03.2014:
AL-QAEDA OFFSHOOT ISIL, A NEW TERROR THREAT FOR TURKEY
He noted that ISIL's threats against Süleyman Şah tomb where Turkey has an extraterritorial jurisdiction, clearly indicates the group's hostility towards Turkey. In this context, ISIL may serve to the interest of the Assad regime. "Süleyman Şah tomb is Turkish territory according to the Ankara Agreement. If Syrian army entered there, this would be casus belli. But instead of doing that, the Assad regime may use ISIL as it used Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) in the past against Turkey," he said. Caşın said ISIL might be employed by the Assad regime in the wake of rising tensions between Syria and Turkey after Turkey shot down a Syrian fighter jet.
He noted that ISIL's threats against Süleyman Şah tomb where Turkey has an extraterritorial jurisdiction, clearly indicates the group's hostility towards Turkey. In this context, ISIL may serve to the interest of the Assad regime. "Süleyman Şah tomb is Turkish territory according to the Ankara Agreement. If Syrian army entered there, this would be casus belli. But instead of doing that, the Assad regime may use ISIL as it used Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) in the past against Turkey," he said. Caşın said ISIL might be employed by the Assad regime in the wake of rising tensions between Syria and Turkey after Turkey shot down a Syrian fighter jet.
Defense News (AFP) Mar. 26, 2014: Turkey Vows 'Any Measures' Against Syria Threats
It has also warned it will protect a historic shrine that is under Turkish jurisdiction but located inside Syrias northern Aleppo province against threats from Islamist militants.
A Turkish flag flies over the Tomb of Suleyman Shah, grandfather of Ottoman Empire founder Osman, and a small garrison with a symbolic number of troops is permanently stationed there.
The site, located 25 kilometers (15 miles) from the border, has been threatened by the extremist group Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL).
Davutoglu accused ISIL of clashing with Free Syrian Army rebels while refraining from attacking regime forces.
He said Turkey is ready to take any legitimate step under international law if its national security, including the area where the tomb of Suleyman Shah is situated, is threatened.
also carried in Hurryet Daily News
It has also warned it will protect a historic shrine that is under Turkish jurisdiction but located inside Syrias northern Aleppo province against threats from Islamist militants.
A Turkish flag flies over the Tomb of Suleyman Shah, grandfather of Ottoman Empire founder Osman, and a small garrison with a symbolic number of troops is permanently stationed there.
The site, located 25 kilometers (15 miles) from the border, has been threatened by the extremist group Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL).
Davutoglu accused ISIL of clashing with Free Syrian Army rebels while refraining from attacking regime forces.
He said Turkey is ready to take any legitimate step under international law if its national security, including the area where the tomb of Suleyman Shah is situated, is threatened.
also carried in Hurryet Daily News
IHS Jane's Intelligence Weekly 25 March 2014: Threat to Turkish sovereign exclave in Syria by ISIL increases risk of conflict
Militant group Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) has threatened to attack the Tomb of Suleiman Shah, a sacred mausoleum based in a Turkish exclave in Syria, around 25 kilometres from the Turkish border.
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In another development, President Abullah Gül has responded to threats from ISIL to Turkey lower its flag over the Tomb of Suleiman Shah, which is located in a Turkish sovereign exclave of Jabar Fortress and is guarded by Turkish soldiers. Fighting between ISIL and other militant groups close to the tomb has recently intensified. Turkish daily Hürriyet reported on 23 March that the Turkish Armed Forces (Türk Silahli Kuvvetleri: TSK) are preparing a "small scale" operation in the event the tomb is attacked by ISIL militants. The re-emergence of Syria on the political agenda comes as Turkey's ruling Justice and Development Party (Adalet ve Kalkinma Partisi: AKP) heads into municipal elections on 30 March embattled by allegations of corruption.
Militant group Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) has threatened to attack the Tomb of Suleiman Shah, a sacred mausoleum based in a Turkish exclave in Syria, around 25 kilometres from the Turkish border.
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In another development, President Abullah Gül has responded to threats from ISIL to Turkey lower its flag over the Tomb of Suleiman Shah, which is located in a Turkish sovereign exclave of Jabar Fortress and is guarded by Turkish soldiers. Fighting between ISIL and other militant groups close to the tomb has recently intensified. Turkish daily Hürriyet reported on 23 March that the Turkish Armed Forces (Türk Silahli Kuvvetleri: TSK) are preparing a "small scale" operation in the event the tomb is attacked by ISIL militants. The re-emergence of Syria on the political agenda comes as Turkey's ruling Justice and Development Party (Adalet ve Kalkinma Partisi: AKP) heads into municipal elections on 30 March embattled by allegations of corruption.
I'm going to be very sick. I just found a KOS entry about this.
In the meeting, the four discuss conducting a false flag attack--blamed on Al Qaeda--in order to justify war with Syria.
The conversation revealed that John Kerry had been pressing Davutoglu to strike Syria.
Turkey's plan involved either orchestrating a missile strike on Turkey or faking an attack on the tomb of Suleyman Shah, founder of the Ottoman Empire. The tomb is in Syria but is considered a sovereign enclave of Turkey per the terms of the 1921 Treaty of Ankara.

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/03/27/1287823/-Updated-Turkey-Planned-Fake-Al-Qaeda-Attack-in-Syria-to-Justify-Invasion
The conversation revealed that John Kerry had been pressing Davutoglu to strike Syria.
Turkey's plan involved either orchestrating a missile strike on Turkey or faking an attack on the tomb of Suleyman Shah, founder of the Ottoman Empire. The tomb is in Syria but is considered a sovereign enclave of Turkey per the terms of the 1921 Treaty of Ankara.

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/03/27/1287823/-Updated-Turkey-Planned-Fake-Al-Qaeda-Attack-in-Syria-to-Justify-Invasion
At about the 5:00 mark Foreign Minister Davutoglu says
Translation: Many times Kerry has said to me "Ok, did you make the decision to strike?"
What is less clear is whether Kerry was aware that Turkish plans for how to pull off an invasion included faking an attack by Al Qaeda on its own territory, either firing missiles from Syria into Turkey or attacking the tomb of the founder of the Ottoman Empire (the tomb is in Syria but is considered a sovereign enclave of Turkey).
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/03/27/1287880/-John-Kerry-Encouraged-Turkish-Invasion-of-Syria
...cogu zaman Kerry bana aynen sunu soyledi peki siz kararinizi verdiniz mi dedi bu vurma ve sey yapma...
Translation: Many times Kerry has said to me "Ok, did you make the decision to strike?"
What is less clear is whether Kerry was aware that Turkish plans for how to pull off an invasion included faking an attack by Al Qaeda on its own territory, either firing missiles from Syria into Turkey or attacking the tomb of the founder of the Ottoman Empire (the tomb is in Syria but is considered a sovereign enclave of Turkey).
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/03/27/1287880/-John-Kerry-Encouraged-Turkish-Invasion-of-Syria
KOS has the whole conversation up in readable form.
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NATO country (Turkey) just caught planning a false flag attack to jumpstart war against Syria [View all]
Catherina
Mar 2014
OP
All week long, Turkish media has been carrying stories about a supposed tomb threat by ISIL
Catherina
Mar 2014
#3
Too bad YouTube wasn't around for all the false-flag ops by US and Isareal in the past. nt
kelliekat44
Mar 2014
#79
I highly doubt that Turkey is acting in Syria without the ok of a certain more powerful NATO member
JVS
Mar 2014
#5
+1 Gorbachev should have consulted with the native Americans who got the same kind of promises
Catherina
Mar 2014
#69
Dishonoring treaties and agreements not to mention the contemptible hypocrisy...
2banon
Mar 2014
#77
And now the world is pointing out the obvious hypocrisy of our claims. Something that
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#81
NATO has become nothing more that the "Enforcement Arm" of the GLobal Banks and the IMF.
bvar22
Mar 2014
#64
and we have the willfully ignorant supporters of these policies in the party that's supposed
2banon
Mar 2014
#84
Read the 2 KOS diaries in post 3. Stupid me, I really thought it was just pre-election censorship
Catherina
Mar 2014
#10
It's like the Ashton and Nuland tapes. Not getting any exposure by our corrupt MSM
Catherina
Mar 2014
#12
Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't pick up on that until ur post. +1000 for those metaphors! n/t
Catherina
Mar 2014
#91
I highly doubt so too. If they had, it would be on he front page of every single paper
Catherina
Mar 2014
#30
lists of "suspects", including well-known journalists, are already ready and mass arrests coming
Catherina
Mar 2014
#31
Kicking for reading later today. Thanks for bringing so much information. It's all important. n/t
Judi Lynn
Mar 2014
#21
At the same time another NATO country is busted discussing a false flag operation
Catherina
Mar 2014
#43
FOX News (#Fail)): " Jihadist threat against sacred Turkish tomb threatens to widen Syria's war"
Catherina
Mar 2014
#32
Good catch. I wondering why they started blathering on about that tomb all of a sudden.
bemildred
Mar 2014
#36
I read comments from many Turkish people who said they never even heard of this tomb
Catherina
Mar 2014
#39
Good. It looks like Turkey may have its own Snowden doing what's right.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2014
#35
In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2014
#40
Erdogan blames the opposition. I'm closer to you. I think a new front in cyberwarfare has opened
Catherina
Mar 2014
#42
wsws: "Turkish officials plan false-flag attacks to create pretext for war with Syria"
Catherina
Mar 2014
#37
The ditto-heads cackling and congratulating themselves for seeing through the illusion.
randome
Mar 2014
#51
US Dept of State responds:“In terms of the alleged recordings, just aren't going to have any comment
Catherina
Mar 2014
#55
I guess the State Department doesn't have translators? Lots of people in the US could
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#101
Thank you. I appreciate your support and the support of the other respected recommenders.
Catherina
Mar 2014
#62
Turkey prohibits news coverage, reporting, commentary etc... of the recently released recordings
Catherina
Mar 2014
#63
Too bad our ally over there cannot censor the World. So they were planning to attack themselves,
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#82
Between the features to ignore certain posters and auto-trashing threads by keyword
Catherina
Mar 2014
#92
"Turkey to scrutinise foreign office after espionage leak"... "everyone and everything"
Catherina
Mar 2014
#75
Looks like they were plotting a CRIME, and they have they have the nerve to ignore what was revealed
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#94
I was told on DU that there no rule of law for the Ruling Class and it is foolish of us to demand
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#97
Pres Carter wins this one: "“America does not at the moment have a functioning democracy,”
Catherina
Mar 2014
#103