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CreekDog

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41. the post is not specifically about DU, it's about a form of trolling

Sat Mar 29, 2014, 01:49 AM

Mar 2014

that occurs on call in radio shows i listen to, with guests on cable tv, on DU, on other discussion boards.

it's when people pretend to hold political views they don't actually hold to disrupt or derail those of sincere people.

what made me think of this was not actually a DU post, but the Chris Hayes' interview with Jennifer Stefano, who wouldn't admit she was against Medicaid expansion, yet her organization most surely is. insincere, dishonest, and there couldn't be a useful dialogue with her because there was no way to agree or disagree with her honestly because there was no basis to even understand what she stood for --not because she didn't know, but because she was just trying in blurt out talking points without actually stating, nor defending her own opposition to the goals of health care reform and universal coverage.

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There can be no fruitful political discussion with people who are insincere or hiding their views [View all] CreekDog Mar 2014 OP

also if your motive is self-aggrandizing one wonders if you really care about La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2014 #1

Excellent post CreekDog K&R nt SunsetDreams Mar 2014 #2

+1 freshwest Apr 2014 #142

In like pipoman Mar 2014 #3

du rec. xchrom Mar 2014 #4

K&R billh58 Mar 2014 #5

it's pretty insidious CreekDog Mar 2014 #13

OMG. How do you not choke on your own hypcrisy, CreekDog? You are a master at Skip Intro Mar 2014 #6

I have been on the recieving end of it as well. beevul Mar 2014 #7

Thank you. There are plenty who have. Skip Intro Mar 2014 #8

I can't have a productive discussion with someone who alerted his own OP CreekDog Mar 2014 #9

Diversion ain't gonna cut it here, CD - you've been a jerk to too many. n/t Skip Intro Mar 2014 #11

Did you alert on your own thread like that? kristopher Mar 2014 #34

Yes you did alert your own thread, but you won't admit it CreekDog Mar 2014 #56

What was that, 2 years ago? pintobean Mar 2014 #16

oh? who was posting while intoxicated in that alert? CreekDog Mar 2014 #32

i see you're too afraid to post who it was that was intoxicated while posting CreekDog Mar 2014 #65

I'm afraid? pintobean Mar 2014 #66

do you keep a spreadsheet, or is your room filled with whiteboards? snooper2 Mar 2014 #73

Oh give it up B2G Mar 2014 #17

Agree, I've seen it repeatedly. Katashi_itto Mar 2014 #10

Ditto pintobean Mar 2014 #12

Do you still use those? Copy machines are really cheap. CreekDog Mar 2014 #42

Some things are priceless pintobean Mar 2014 #44

Yup! Agreed! Texasgal Mar 2014 #28

well i guess you want me to stop alerting and taking a look at the sexist trolls here CreekDog Mar 2014 #130

Yup ... oldhippie Mar 2014 #31

I don't think you understand. It's not hypocrisy at all. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #76

you are so right, Creek to talk of this Duckhunter935 Mar 2014 #79

badge of honor CreekDog Mar 2014 #105

Sorry, Creekdog. Your's is a world-filling hypocrisy. Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #129

you're talking to Skip Intro CreekDog Apr 2014 #135

I like turtles. Glassunion Mar 2014 #14

And if you have a discussion with CreekDog, B2G Mar 2014 #15

I have to acknowledge and thank the Cjeekdgg Fan Club for stopping by CreekDog Mar 2014 #18

I don't hate you B2G Mar 2014 #21

just a few months ago actually, you were agitating against coverage of maternity care under ACA CreekDog Mar 2014 #33

Do you know what I'm wearing right now? B2G Mar 2014 #35

i don't care and if you haven't posted it prominently on DU, i won't know CreekDog Mar 2014 #88

It seems like you have plenty of time pintobean Mar 2014 #91

OMG. You do have an uncany way of twisting things B2G Mar 2014 #92

so you're saying you were misquoted and do think maternity should be covered at no extra cost? CreekDog Mar 2014 #93

WTF?! How would you know that? Do you have like an enemies database or something? nt Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #37

wow, are DU posts from late last year a secret? CreekDog Mar 2014 #47

Last year? I don't care enough to see what you posted YESTERDAY... Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #54

why are you afraid that your public posts from months ago might get read again? CreekDog Mar 2014 #58

Afraid? Absolute nonsense. It is not disturbing that people read what I write... Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #59

He's calling another "afraid" upthread. It's all he's got - namecalling and attacks. Skip Intro Mar 2014 #68

Everyone needs a hobby I suppose. nt Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #70

we at least he isn't trapping people in stores... snooper2 Mar 2014 #75

You ARE using whiteboards, I knew it LOL snooper2 Mar 2014 #74

i don't use whiteboards and i don't keep any reference material CreekDog Mar 2014 #80

stalking? nah, maybe it's just love? snooper2 Mar 2014 #82

why are you offended that a reactionary, conservative position might be brought up later? CreekDog Mar 2014 #85

"if someone is a victim of their own BS" pintobean Mar 2014 #86

i'm not a victim here CreekDog Mar 2014 #89

Not at all pintobean Mar 2014 #90

33 recommends --I'm not a victim at all CreekDog Apr 2014 #136

^^^^ this! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #78

Did anyone say they hate you? pintobean Mar 2014 #23

+100. n/t Skip Intro Mar 2014 #19

How does one determine, in advance, that someone's view is insincere? arcane1 Mar 2014 #20

Because Creekdog has years of polling data, correlated by name, detailing your "actual views". lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #72

He'll also call people out in his poll threads pintobean Mar 2014 #77

you don't speak for me CreekDog Mar 2014 #114

Lol. Got a link? /nt pintobean Mar 2014 #115

do you do anything here? CreekDog Mar 2014 #119

What I don't do pintobean Mar 2014 #120

for someone who keeps screen caps, i wouldn't go calling others creepy CreekDog Mar 2014 #121

You know what's really funny? pintobean Mar 2014 #125

you screen cap other people, which is FINE, except that you complain... CreekDog Mar 2014 #127

Did I get it wrong? lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #116

yes, you were wrong to say what you said about learning disabilities CreekDog Mar 2014 #118

Point taken lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #122

threading the needle too finely on an apology kinda makes it suck CreekDog Mar 2014 #123

this isn't even a very good witch hunt. mopinko Mar 2014 #22

They never are. pintobean Mar 2014 #24

yeah, i heard. mopinko Mar 2014 #25

oh you've heard huh? what have you heard? CreekDog Mar 2014 #46

Your secret is out pintobean Mar 2014 #48

do you not understand what a secret is and isn't? MIRT isn't a secret CreekDog Mar 2014 #50

It was sarcasm. pintobean Mar 2014 #51

well all your posts are CreekDog Mar 2014 #52

Simple solution pintobean Mar 2014 #53

i promise not to read your DU posts CreekDog Mar 2014 #97

Another brilliant reply. pintobean Mar 2014 #109

so you're saying your posts are brilliant? CreekDog Mar 2014 #110

congrats on your MIRT! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #126

you're lecturing me, where were you yesterday when this happened? CreekDog Mar 2014 #128

It's the TALK versus ACTION thing. blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #26

Perhaps this is what you were looking for?? kentuck Mar 2014 #27

this is the week of Post about Posting n/t DeadEyeDyck Mar 2014 #29

Octagons don't fit into rectangles because circles are made out of cheese. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #30

You're talking about DU. If you weren't, then you would be free to name names. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #36

Ok, I'll tell you after you tell me about ignore CreekDog Mar 2014 #39

A response to you about a different member in that thread who became the first member on that list. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #40

the post is not specifically about DU, it's about a form of trolling CreekDog Mar 2014 #41

I missed the show, NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #43

Yes, please tell us more about honesty and more about trolling. beevul Mar 2014 #38

... Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #57

it's pretty much conservadems here that are giving me grief about this OP CreekDog Mar 2014 #61

No it isn't. pintobean Mar 2014 #62

When I was wandering the country homeless nilesobek Mar 2014 #102

Huh? A lot of us support both expansion and shrinkage of Medicare and Medicaid Recursion Mar 2014 #45

If there's anything you think you need to know... rrneck Mar 2014 #49

Junkdrawer: Beating his head against the DU wall since 2002.... Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #55

Maybe you should post in ATA asking for a "Discern Motive" button be added next to "Alert Abuse" Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #60

That brought a smile and a chuckle. Thank you! OmahaBlueDog Mar 2014 #64

I think that the desired functionality is actually "attribute motive to poster". lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #117

K&R nt Zorra Mar 2014 #63

I'm sorry, but... pipi_k Mar 2014 #67

you're a very confused person, i don't see the point in going over this with you CreekDog Mar 2014 #69

One more time... pipi_k Mar 2014 #71

the exact cast of characters I expected to be offended by this....seem to magically do just that.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #81

I'm heartbroken pintobean Mar 2014 #83

In the words of pipi_k Mar 2014 #95

I'm probably a "usual suspect", but whatever... pipi_k Mar 2014 #84

I don't know....you tell me.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #87

Do I pipi_k Mar 2014 #98

It was your question not mine... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #99

I've asked a few questions pipi_k Mar 2014 #103

the one this was addressed at.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #104

I have no pipi_k Apr 2014 #134

Gee, you got a list of these "usual suspects?" Skip Intro Apr 2014 #138

Irony. Great laugh. Thanks. nt. NCTraveler Mar 2014 #94

so how do you KNOW when you are being lied to? hfojvt Mar 2014 #96

Posts have "tells", something like body language. Combined with knowing that a Zorra Mar 2014 #101

"Tells" only work when you're at the card table. rrneck Mar 2014 #106

No, body language tips off liars pretty accurately, and so do posts, but a bit less so. Zorra Mar 2014 #108

Yeah, I can think of at least one poster that rrneck Mar 2014 #111

i am amused. (nt) Inkfreak Mar 2014 #100

Funny Thread. MineralMan Mar 2014 #107

And you are the arbiter of who is "sincere" - how convenient. nt hack89 Mar 2014 #112

This kind of thing is like rrneck Mar 2014 #113

Yeah, but we can still pelt 'em with verbal tomatoes. idendoit Mar 2014 #124

Is she/he really a MIRT member? nt Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #131

yes he is CreekDog Apr 2014 #133

Yep. Really brings a lotta class to the position, eh? n/t Skip Intro Apr 2014 #137

What's a MIRT? idendoit Apr 2014 #139

Malicious Intruder Removal Team Boom Sound 416 Apr 2014 #140

Ride 'em, Cowpokes. idendoit Apr 2014 #141

Shit, try having a political discussion with folks who will not discuss issues at all. TheKentuckian Apr 2014 #132