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236. Some of us came here to fight against the neocons

Sat Mar 29, 2014, 09:06 AM

Mar 2014

the wars and stolen elections in the early 2000's...and we stayed. The place changed around us and is now much more centrist. That is where the confusion lies. We won a couple of elections and our guy got in. But the nefarious things we railed against still go on...Bill Moyers covered this well recently. The USA still needs a hard left turn into greener pastures. It needs a sea change and the real threat to world peace needs to be curtailed. Obama is obviously trying but he is up against a beast and sometimes he seems to simply cater to it. That threat is embedded in the neocon establishment, the think tanks, the MIC, and our own government. It's not DU that needs to be purged. It is the "Deep State" and we should all be working against it before it drags us into more unnecessary wars and sidelines all of "our" civil rights and right to privacy. Now matter how much that beast drapes itself in the flag, at it's core it is anti-American, for it does not represent what this country is supposed to stand for.

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Is it time for a "fatwa" from Skinner? [View all] kentuck Mar 2014 OP

Fat what ? dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #1

It's an egg based Italian dish. Glassunion Mar 2014 #20

Mmmmmmmmm mmmmmm Champion Jack Mar 2014 #46

I once dated an Italian dish Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #130

More importantly Glassunion Mar 2014 #143

I thought he said flattire.... Javaman Mar 2014 #102

Or battery ? dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #107

I say we take those two conservative/non-progressive guys out back and waste them BeyondGeography Mar 2014 #2

++++1 Tarheel_Dem Mar 2014 #5

LOL. wall_dish Mar 2014 #50

Welcome to DU, wall_dish! calimary Mar 2014 #140

Thank you calimary. wall_dish Mar 2014 #144

Nahhh! Just kneecap them! LongTomH Mar 2014 #153

Skinner should issue a Fat Burger LittleBlue Mar 2014 #3

Hmmm...if Skinner is not hungry, I am. Rex Mar 2014 #17

I'll take mine without the bacon Aerows Mar 2014 #19

Actually keep the bacon, add some chili and a fried egg.. truebrit71 Mar 2014 #97

Oh man Aerows Mar 2014 #118

Which is why I only have that once a year when I visit So. Cal... truebrit71 Mar 2014 #125

Mmm fries CFLDem Mar 2014 #31

I want onion rings! RKP5637 Mar 2014 #66

Sometimes when you go to Burger King CFLDem Mar 2014 #69

LOL, yep, same here! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2014 #78

I've never liked BK's onion rings. They are more like onion fritters shaped into rings. To me, a genwah Mar 2014 #133

BK's rings are absolutely gross. JimDandy Mar 2014 #137

pop eyes onion rings are the best thing on the menu AngryAmish Mar 2014 #155

Or get the $1 Rodeo Burger blueamy66 Mar 2014 #235

OMG. That looks fantastic. cyberswede Mar 2014 #47

I'll take 2! Champion Jack Mar 2014 #48

Oh god, don't get started with that NickB79 Mar 2014 #86

DUzy!!! ROFL!!!! calimary Mar 2014 #139

That would be entertaining. I wonder if I'd survive. nt el_bryanto Mar 2014 #4

I would prefer that he issue a falafel, QC Mar 2014 #6

LOL JohnRogan Mar 2014 #57

Falafels for all! Hekate Mar 2014 #132

in others words: youre different so out you go. or we dont want your kind round these parts. leftyohiolib Mar 2014 #7

Only if you are more like "them" than us. kentuck Mar 2014 #11

+1000 MissDeeds Mar 2014 #159

There is Defintely a Right vs Left Ideological War going on here fascisthunter Mar 2014 #8

more like Pragmatist v. Ideologue KittyWampus Mar 2014 #13

more like... centrist vs liberal fascisthunter Mar 2014 #18

Or maybe Republican policies vs Dem policies within the Dem Party. polichick Mar 2014 #56

you expected iamthebandfanman Mar 2014 #74

I agree. Most folks agree on what they would like to see. We just don't agree... stevenleser Mar 2014 #23

and THERE is the Realists part.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #217

Yep. MLK was a real trouble-maker he was. cui bono Mar 2014 #226

Comparing yourself to MLK is the epitome of delusions of grandeur.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #239

I am sure in these days and times Teabagger Congress and all.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #241

Prosecuting known torturers is hardly utopian, is it? grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #228

Then maybe it wasn't ABOUT you either.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #240

That's basically it. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #119

I think you're right about that Warpy Mar 2014 #136

omg continental all the way laundry_queen Mar 2014 #209

Agreed, the English do everything backward Warpy Mar 2014 #221

Here's a great example: AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #174

Personally, I think that someone who endorses a Conservadem candidate Art_from_Ark Mar 2014 #224

+1000 nt MsLeopard Mar 2014 #242

Or Realists vs Idealists... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #215

No, that is not true. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2014 #64

But if Skinner tombstoned anyone who called a poster "Right-Wing" Demeter Mar 2014 #72

You might have to swear off food for a while DFW Mar 2014 #230

Centrists are to the right of what you call "far left". fascisthunter Mar 2014 #73

But there are virtually none on DU. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2014 #80

Hmmmm. fascisthunter Mar 2014 #89

That's a strong point. The practical problem is that it is not consistent across all issues BlueStreak Mar 2014 #114

+1 an entire shit load! Enthusiast Mar 2014 #233

IDK. ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2014 #9

Those who oppose unions may need to spend time doing research to learn Thinkingabout Mar 2014 #25

That is a good point - TBF Mar 2014 #34

It's time ban all DINOs CJCRANE Mar 2014 #10

I think, just to be safe, we should get rid of everybody but CJCRANE. nt el_bryanto Mar 2014 #14

That should just about do it CJCRANE Mar 2014 #33

Good one brush Mar 2014 #126

Hmm...a guy wonders just who you mean. MineralMan Mar 2014 #21

Can't help but think of this... Scootaloo Mar 2014 #44

... CJCRANE Mar 2014 #68

"But we don't want the Irish!" riqster Mar 2014 #101

Could you repeat that? I'm taking notes! LongTomH Mar 2014 #154

hahahaha Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #81

Roh oh L0oniX Mar 2014 #198

I wish I were here in those early days, because this is friggin' tiresome. Squinch Mar 2014 #12

Do they serve Waffles? Katashi_itto Mar 2014 #156

I see the kindergarten contingent has arrived. Squinch Mar 2014 #166

You were here first Katashi_itto Mar 2014 #181

I'm not really seeing any "conservative and non-progressive" MineralMan Mar 2014 #15

Off the top of my head... kentuck Mar 2014 #24

Nobody defended the Iraq war; they defended a comment that didn't even defend the Iraq war BeyondGeography Mar 2014 #29

Well, it's good to get that cleared up.. kentuck Mar 2014 #38

Unfortunately, we've already established that group wants to interpret things in such a way to be stevenleser Mar 2014 #49

The OP's "fatwa" might as well be extended to anyone with basic reading comprehension BeyondGeography Mar 2014 #85

That's the way I see it too Progressive dog Mar 2014 #96

yep you nailed it nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #173

Well, that leaves me off your list, then. MineralMan Mar 2014 #42

Seriously? BainsBane Mar 2014 #148

I'm pretty much a GD guy. MineralMan Mar 2014 #151

No, because many of those same people BainsBane Mar 2014 #160

If they say they will not vote for Democrats, MineralMan Mar 2014 #162

That's what I see this OP as being about BainsBane Mar 2014 #163

All anyone can do, then, is alert on such posts. MineralMan Mar 2014 #164

Someone dares criticize the president on one issue and you think Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #16

Oh c'mon Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #22

True, but... Violet_Crumble Mar 2014 #231

I didn't read the OP like that whatsoever NoOneMan Mar 2014 #43

I read it as wanting the non-Democrats BainsBane Mar 2014 #195

I think some should be careful what they ask for. NCTraveler Mar 2014 #26

I don't know about fatwas, but this is NOT a progressive, liberal, or even Democratic website. Sheldon Cooper Mar 2014 #27

I'm hating the atmosphere that's developed here: BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2014 #84

I find it hard to get balanced information as well. Sheldon Cooper Mar 2014 #91

yep... BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2014 #109

The entertainment factor is one good side-effect. Sheldon Cooper Mar 2014 #111

lol! BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2014 #113

Well said, Blanche. nt Hekate Mar 2014 #138

thanks Hekate.. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2014 #142

Right on, Blanche! llmart Mar 2014 #190

Plus a million. I saw a snotty little comment yesterday deriding someone that didn't have a star Number23 Mar 2014 #168

I caught that too Cirque du So-What Mar 2014 #177

Exactly. I've had plenty of stars by my name in the past. Not any more. Number23 Mar 2014 #192

I saw that too BainsBane Mar 2014 #194

So how would we handle it if the "conservative opinion" happens to also be the Administrations hughee99 Mar 2014 #28

This is the conundrum. ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2014 #45

Let's start with the resident Libertarians, because the mission of this board is partisan for Dems.. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2014 #30

The definition of libertarian has been deformed by the BOG Doctor_J Mar 2014 #51

Hit a nerve? Tarheel_Dem Mar 2014 #58

LOL, now there's the humor! Iliyah Mar 2014 #82

more like missed a target Doctor_J Mar 2014 #94

You mean "morons" like these? Tarheel_Dem Mar 2014 #112

A realist knows that you don't get very far without compromise somewhere... Hip_Flask Mar 2014 #32

And a poker player knows that if you have a "full house", Art_from_Ark Mar 2014 #225

It's hardly surprising to me BainsBane Mar 2014 #35

That's a good point. I don't know if it's an across the board condition. el_bryanto Mar 2014 #40

"Self-absorbed nihilism" comes about as close as I've seen to capturing it. stevenleser Mar 2014 #67

I think for some ... JoePhilly Mar 2014 #120

That is misguided BainsBane Mar 2014 #131

I tend to agree with your assessment ... JoePhilly Mar 2014 #152

Reminds me of Christians who long for the Rapture-- only total destruction will bring Jesus, or... Hekate Mar 2014 #145

Which opinion now prominent on DU concerns you the most? (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #36

Are you suggesting that Skinner get rid of the BOG or something? NoOneMan Mar 2014 #37

You can't educate people in internet discussion Scootaloo Mar 2014 #52

I think it is unfair to describe any DU mod or admin action as a "fatwa" Yo_Mama Mar 2014 #39

The consequences of the jury system Renew Deal Mar 2014 #41

Framing fail.... Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #53

This... one_voice Mar 2014 #59

Like I said.... Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #70

I find the fan club aspect TBF Mar 2014 #54

I'd like to see the SOP of GD enforced. That would help a lot. Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #55

And the TOS while we are at it. stevenleser Mar 2014 #63

Become a GD host, then. MineralMan Mar 2014 #65

No thanks, I don't like what I see of the backstage culture here. I'd like to see those who Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #172

There was an Admin decision to be more open to conservative and non-progressive opinions? Ohio Joe Mar 2014 #60

they have stated anti-choice opinions are welcome fizzgig Mar 2014 #146

I knew we had anti-choice assholes here... Ohio Joe Mar 2014 #171

i cannot belive they tolerate it fizzgig Mar 2014 #178

We're going to need some duct tape. /nt pintobean Mar 2014 #61

... TBF Mar 2014 #117

no, I think it's time to shift the discussion to something like alternative medicine, E-cigarettes, Douglas Carpenter Mar 2014 #62

In other words donco Mar 2014 #71

Half of DU would be wiped out. Puzzledtraveller Mar 2014 #75

I think if most everyone just smoked a "fat one", it might lighten up n/t seveneyes Mar 2014 #76

With a couple chasers too. Puzzledtraveller Mar 2014 #79

Maybe part of the problem is too many chasers. flying rabbit Mar 2014 #100

OOh! Can I declare a fat one too? demwing Mar 2014 #116

Right? Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #212

The only purge that will happen, in that case, LWolf Mar 2014 #77

Sounds like a very conservative thing to do actually. Fearless Mar 2014 #83

I used to be comfortable here knowing that the repukes were not here and if Maraya1969 Mar 2014 #87

I am deeply hopeful this is satire. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #88

Sorry, I meant to put in quotations.. kentuck Mar 2014 #123

Conservative trolls get banned... SidDithers Mar 2014 #90

Conservative Canadian trolls seldom get banned Dragonfli Mar 2014 #196

Conservative trolls get banned, regardless of their nationality... SidDithers Mar 2014 #197

If they are banned why is it I read their posts HERE? Dragonfli Mar 2014 #210

MIRT and admins ban conservative trolls everyday... SidDithers Mar 2014 #211

What about the moderate trolls? U4ikLefty Mar 2014 #227

There is much more to trolling than left-right political spectrum position. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2014 #237

No, but it'd be nice to see a crackdown on pure propaganda Corruption Inc Mar 2014 #92

Nah... I just think Folks Should Cool it a Little fascisthunter Mar 2014 #93

Good timing. Brown shirts are on sale at Penneys. n/t jtuck004 Mar 2014 #95

Usually I only trash gun threads in gd geckosfeet Mar 2014 #98

I have racked up over 60 jury appearances since Oct. Brigid Mar 2014 #99

I notice that the threads that we agree on sink like stones. LiberalAndProud Mar 2014 #103

~~~~~~~~~^THIS nt~~~~~~~~~~ SunsetDreams Mar 2014 #121

Is this how the zombie apocalypse starts? nt Javaman Mar 2014 #104

I long for these days: ProSense Mar 2014 #105

Give it 24 business hours. nt msanthrope Mar 2014 #201

No nt hack89 Mar 2014 #106

Bringing back Unrec would eliminate the problem IMO. tridim Mar 2014 #108

I agree, I think that would help. laundry_queen Mar 2014 #213

unrec was a good thing nt justabob Mar 2014 #218

Purge!! Purge!!! CBGLuthier Mar 2014 #110

Much as I would like to agree Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #115

Yikes! Sensor other's "opinions"?!? SoapBox Mar 2014 #122

A fatwa? Is that something you put on pizza? NuclearDem Mar 2014 #124

Fatwa was what we called my cousin, Fat Wally when I was a kid. The term must bluestate10 Mar 2014 #220

Fat Chance. Nt Hekate Mar 2014 #127

Times do change..... BlueJac Mar 2014 #128

Yes, they do. kentuck Mar 2014 #135

Yes, so true BlueJac Mar 2014 #150

There was a very recent post by a self-described NC Dem Doctor_J Mar 2014 #206

If Skinner wants a fatwa, he'll create one. riqster Mar 2014 #129

I agree get the red out Mar 2014 #134

Some of the really obviously conservative right-wingers should be banned. JDPriestly Mar 2014 #141

"Nonsense posts?" Sometimes, the only way to respond to a GD barroom brawl is with humour! LongTomH Mar 2014 #158

If you think a post is nonsense, then put the person who posted it on 'ignore' muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #186

We've had to put up with a lot of RW crap BainsBane Mar 2014 #147

So who are these non-Democrats you keep posting about in this thread? NutmegYankee Mar 2014 #185

people who openly say BainsBane Mar 2014 #187

I haven't come across any. NutmegYankee Mar 2014 #188

look in the thread BainsBane Mar 2014 #193

I prefer a good old Stalin-esque purge, mahself... AzDar Mar 2014 #149

You misspelled "forgotTen" underpants Mar 2014 #157

Thanks! kentuck Mar 2014 #165

But it was a good try underpants Mar 2014 #170

Like you, I've been here from the beginning Gman Mar 2014 #161

You've been called a corporatist? DFW Mar 2014 #229

I'm amused at everyone's confidence that they wouldn't be on the receiving end of the purge club. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #167

My first post (and probably only) KapUSMC Mar 2014 #169

Welcome to DU, friend. AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #176

I Have Seen Worse Analysis Of The Place, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2014 #180

some here don't care about winning elections, they just want to rant and rave OKNancy Mar 2014 #189

Hoo Boy, I'll say. Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #207

Why should we? We won huge in 2008 and got nothing but Republican policies for it Doctor_J Mar 2014 #208

The party has also "drifted." polichick Mar 2014 #214

If the ultimate goal is to win elections? kentuck Mar 2014 #191

Re: If the ultimate goal is to win elections? KapUSMC Mar 2014 #205

Respectfully, what issues would you like to see us compromise with the right on? Hippo_Tron Mar 2014 #216

Elections these days NEVER bring about results "that we want." DFW Mar 2014 #232

Welcome to DU and I would like to share my opinion with you Samantha Mar 2014 #199

why do the votes have to come from the center? justabob Mar 2014 #219

Obama is ideologically right of center... MellowDem Mar 2014 #234

"if the ultimate goal is to win elections" TBF Mar 2014 #244

no Skittles Mar 2014 #175

i know very little about former DU policies since I am new here Shoulders of Giants Mar 2014 #179

DU feels more like a "general" political discussion board etherealtruth Mar 2014 #182

I had no idea Skinner was an Imam. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2014 #183

This message was self-deleted by its author cherokeeprogressive Mar 2014 #184

I'd gladly accept a fatty from Skinner... L0oniX Mar 2014 #200

You think because there is a D in the White House... Deep13 Mar 2014 #202

Why not just put people on ignore ZombieHorde Mar 2014 #203

Wouldn't that make it...a skinnywa? nt pinboy3niner Mar 2014 #204

You got it. Stand and Fight Mar 2014 #222

No. It's time for DUers to stop getting the vapors about the breadth of views in our party. Recursion Mar 2014 #223

Some of us came here to fight against the neocons go west young man Mar 2014 #236

Well said! another_liberal Mar 2014 #243

A call for eliminating opposing points of view is not progressive, or democratic. another_liberal Mar 2014 #238