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Nuclear Unicorn

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21. Two points

Sat Mar 29, 2014, 11:47 AM

Mar 2014

1. if it's tax funded it shouldn't be exclusive.

But I would even caveat that statement with: If the instructor volunteered their services and the only public expenditure was a public asset such as a meeting space I don't see this as an issue so long as a "men only" activity could use the same meeting space.

However, if the county is paying the instructor or some other expense with public funds then I am uncomfortable with this.

2. I think the article meant to refer to FOURTEENTH Amendment rather than the FOURTH with regards to the equal protection clause.

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�Men�s rights� group claims free self-defense classes for women are sexist [View all] Katashi_itto Mar 2014 OP

They might have a valid legal point Nevernose Mar 2014 #1

You may have a point, from a legal standing. But still, dear lord, Katashi_itto Mar 2014 #2

As a supporter of a woman's right to armed self-defense, I agree. Jgarrick Mar 2014 #3

Why "morally and ethically" a stupid point? (n/t) Seeking Serenity Mar 2014 #5

I'm actually rethinking my position now Nevernose Mar 2014 #6

I agree, have to look at it differently. Oh the surface it seems horrendous. Katashi_itto Mar 2014 #30

They are right here though treestar Mar 2014 #4

Or sexually assaulted newdemocrat999 Mar 2014 #10

Usually attacked by other men mainer Mar 2014 #42

Pap smears only for women are sexist too! FSogol Mar 2014 #7

Men can't get cervical cancer. So they have no use for a pap smear. Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #14

To you as well Lancero Mar 2014 #17

Actually... Lancero Mar 2014 #16

I was going to say mammogram, but then figured that men could have that test. FSogol Mar 2014 #29

Why not have it free for men and women? newdemocrat999 Mar 2014 #8

Sounds like benevolent sexism to me (nt) The Straight Story Mar 2014 #9

I know you probably mean that in a snarky way, but I agree with you this time. dawg Mar 2014 #18

Rut, roh BainsBane Mar 2014 #46

really? the hypocrisy... oh, and da doors seabeyond Mar 2014 #48

As much as I hate to agree - Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #11

Men and women both should know how to protect themselves. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #12

Why should a small, weak, 70 year old guy who is living in a bad neighborhood be denied free classes Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #13

When you phrase it that way I agree Katashi_itto Mar 2014 #25

A stopped clock is right twice a day etherealtruth Mar 2014 #15

They used to call them "battered womens' shelters"... Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #19

Seperate but equal then? Lancero Mar 2014 #20

Why is that a problem? kcr Mar 2014 #22

Cute. You need to ask women that question... Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #24

When you have total beginners learning martial arts it's often good to separate Katashi_itto Mar 2014 #27

I agree. On the range, guys don't want to be shown up! Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #35

Umm, thats not what I'm talking about. I spar with women who are brilliant and Katashi_itto Mar 2014 #36

Two points Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #21

The problem is its government-sponsored davidn3600 Mar 2014 #23

At first glance the classes sound unfair. rrneck Mar 2014 #26

^^^This^^^ Gormy Cuss Mar 2014 #28

I have no problem with the classes being sex-segregated. Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #32

I thought of that. rrneck Mar 2014 #33

The self defense teaching should be appropriate to the students. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #43

It looks like it's funded by private donations rrneck Mar 2014 #47

Right, private donations. The city's only giving them space. mainer Mar 2014 #51

Well, to be fair rrneck Mar 2014 #54

There's a bit of a contradiction with what we usually hear gollygee Mar 2014 #31

You have this wrong, imo... Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #34

Oh please. As far as I can see everyone here supports free defense classes for both women and men. Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #37

The only reason it's free for women is private fundraising mainer Mar 2014 #53

Paragraph 2 displacedtexan Mar 2014 #38

A self defense class without men cannot hope to live up to its name. Threedifferentones Mar 2014 #39

Maybe they're taught by a guy? mainer Mar 2014 #41

Now that you mention it mainer I was overlooking that psychological aspect of it. Threedifferentones Mar 2014 #45

Our class didn't involve sparring, but learning to feel comfortable throwing punches mainer Mar 2014 #49

Okay, that all makes sense, we don't disagree at all, we're just making different points. Threedifferentones Mar 2014 #55

The classes are paid for through fundraising mainer Mar 2014 #40

OT, but Jamaal510 Mar 2014 #44

Likely the complaint is valid... sarisataka Mar 2014 #50

harry crouch sounds like god's gift to women... mainer Mar 2014 #52

Maybe he didn't get breast fed, I dunno. He seems pretty hostile. Katashi_itto Mar 2014 #57

Plaintiffs are right on this one. CFLDem Mar 2014 #56