It amuses me to no end that some folks want

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109. One issue? Who said anything about 'one issue'?? The Democratic Party platform is not about ONE

issue.

Oh, I see, I gave an example of one of many issues that are currently under threat, issues, several of them, that affect millions of Americans.

But your response is interesting. It appears to be saying that we should sacrifice SS in order to 'win'.

What else should we sacrifice in order to 'win'?

I despise feel-good noises, which we hear plenty of, so no, there is no shortage there. I judge ACTIONS, not WORDS/NOISES. I hear PLENTY of 'feel good noises about the issues 'I' (shouldn't that be WE btw) care about.

And there you go again, talking about 'sides/teams'. THERE ARE NO SIDES if you are a Democrat. The Platform is clear, if you are willing to sacrifice that platform to the Right, most Democrats are NOT.

And if that is what you are preaching to other Democrats, don't expect it to be a 'winning' strategy. Democrats have traditionally FOUGHT and FOUGHT HARD for the working class. What I am hearing from you is 'we should not fight, we should give in to the Right so we can WIN'.

If Democrats had YOUR attitude toward the Dem Party Platform, all those great programs you mentioned would never have come to pass, they would have been sacrificed as you are suggesting we do with SS now, in order to 'win'.

I have a different idea of what 'winning' means than you. Winning doesn't mean getting to a distination and losing everything you were carrying with you that was of great value, along the way. All that means is 'I got here, phew, but I have lost everything along the way'.

You also seem to be UNAWARE of the polls on issues. Wtf? When a majority is on YOUR side of the issues, why the hell you abandon the very issues the PEOPLE WANT??? See 2008, then look what happened in 2010 when Independents were upset that the WINNING ISSUES were not fought for, the ones they went out and voted for, like SOCIAL SECURITY eg, placed on the Deficit Table??? Either you are extremely naive about politics, and the dynamite that SS is which is supported by a vast majority of people across the board, or you have not been studying WINNING strategy and are simply repeating the nebulous, nonsensical tripe we have been hearing for so long. 'WE CAN'T WIN UNLESS WE GIVE UP OUR WINNING ISSUES!' Does that make ANY sense at all? No, it never did, it is a LOSING strategy. It's like holding GOLD in your hand and exchanging it for sand, then inding out the people wanted gold all along.