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LWolf

(46,179 posts)
48. Of course not.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 12:37 PM
Mar 2014

I think that modern stories are more about entertainment than teaching, which is why students run into a brick wall of frustration when they hit secondary education, and stories are about more than that. Any story, in print or film, that can be entertaining AND offer avenues for thought and growth about what it means to be human is worthwhile.

I think that stories are part of our history, our humanity, and that we ought to celebrate them for what they are. I think that the story of Noah is fascinating, because it's one of so many flood myths throughout history. What I wish I could do would be to study (with my students) all of those different flood myths, put them on a timeline and in geographical context, look for commonalities and differences, and see what might have passed from one place to another through migration, and if those separated by great distances in time and space have any common source. I'd like to see flood myths understood in historical context. Since many myths evolve around some actual event, I'd like to look for possible localized flooding that could have given rise to an angry god destroying the world; ancients didn't really have a grounded concept of the world outside their own range.

I'd like to do all of that, but I can't, because the story of Noah is in the bible, and I'd be crucified by christians if I tried to put it in context, and by the rest if I tried to use a bible story as literature for "bringing religion into the classroom," and my middle school students would be understandably confused and conflicted if I presented what they've been taught as "truth" as myth.

I can't, but I can listen to my students talk about the movie; some will see it, some won't be allowed to, but will hear about it from peers. A bible story presented as mythological entertainment instead of historical "fact" is a move in the right direction, imo, and the time is ripe. Believe it or not, Rick Riordan, with his not-so-deep and meaningful "Percy Jackson" books and movies, has sparked a resurgence in passion for mythology among young people, setting them up for seeing myths through different lenses. I DO talk about archetypes in mythology and make connections to more modern stories with them, and their passion for mythology means that their brains come along for the ride in those discussions. I'm thinking they can make their own connections to biblical myth without me pointing it out. Being modern young people who love movies, adding a major film about Noah from a non-religious perspective will help them do that.

As you can see, my pov is not that of science, but of literature and history, but that's to be expected from a teacher of both.

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Re the movie being "anti-human" gollygee Mar 2014 #1
That's the first thing I thought of. Aristus Mar 2014 #19
Glenn Beck is a complete fucking idiot killbotfactory Mar 2014 #2
Sometimes I wonder if the producers don't have a... Wounded Bear Mar 2014 #3
Me, too! Now I'm looking forward to seeing it! nt babylonsister Mar 2014 #4
I probably won't... Wounded Bear Mar 2014 #7
Well, the executives at Paramount invited Beck to a screening, so you may have a point. arcane1 Mar 2014 #53
"it's just so pro-animal and anti-human, and I mean strongly anti-human." hedgehog Mar 2014 #5
All the animals in the film were computer generated! MoonRiver Mar 2014 #6
In the end we discover it's all a video game as the camera trolleys back... hunter Mar 2014 #8
we have your Noah 2pooped2pop Mar 2014 #9
I never miss a film by Aronofsky. Pi, Requim For A Dream, Black Swan Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #10
Whenever I want to see 15 minutes of vomiting or soul crushing study of humanity he's my go-to guy. Matariki Mar 2014 #41
The main problem with the film is TlalocW Mar 2014 #11
... babylonsister Mar 2014 #12
fishing? I thought all the animals were ON the ark nt msongs Mar 2014 #16
I certainly hope he was able to bring more than two beers. n/t trotsky Mar 2014 #18
L O L Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2014 #31
Schlitz...? Contrary1 Mar 2014 #56
5. Russel Crowe will come after you if you don't. NuclearDem Mar 2014 #13
So they complain that Hollywood doesn't make religious films Blue_Adept Mar 2014 #14
This movie looks way better then the other Biblical movie out kydo Mar 2014 #15
Remember the money changers? demwing Mar 2014 #43
Where are the reasons to see it? muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #17
REVIEW: Darren Aronofsky’s Noah Movie: Better Than the Book babylonsister Mar 2014 #22
That "silly plot" LWolf Mar 2014 #30
What I mean about the 'silly plot' is the suspension of the laws of physics muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #34
Of course, myth is all about LWolf Mar 2014 #39
If you think the 'Noah' film is going to teach us the meaning of anything muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #42
Of course not. LWolf Mar 2014 #48
thanks! lunatica Mar 2014 #59
So take a pass on all fantasy, all science-fiction, and all horror movies. demwing Mar 2014 #45
Reminds me of "If God is all powerful, ... Whiskeytide Mar 2014 #57
I learned all I need to know about Noah from Bill Cosby. johnp3907 Mar 2014 #20
Who's going to clean the bottom of the boat! KittyWampus Mar 2014 #21
"You give me NO manual for delivery, and there's poor Noah standing under the elephant!" krispos42 Mar 2014 #35
What's a cubit? Ptah Mar 2014 #38
Its approximately the length of an adult's forearm. demwing Mar 2014 #46
First name or last? redwitch Mar 2014 #44
I'm a big fan of old time radio. johnp3907 Mar 2014 #49
Smearing the floor with jello and setting fire to the couch redwitch Mar 2014 #58
How long can you tread water? nt longship Mar 2014 #52
I've heard tell that the movie is actually better than the book. nt NorthCarolina Mar 2014 #23
I heard that also babylonsister Mar 2014 #24
LOL...yep. I see that. NorthCarolina Mar 2014 #25
No(ah) way. Stupid fucking fable we can do it Mar 2014 #26
Yeah, you see, the original story sucked and it was full of crap. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #27
It would be good to see Crowe back in fine form rumdude Mar 2014 #28
I really have no desire to see this movie dflprincess Mar 2014 #29
It's got angels raining down from the heavens and blowing shit up! Rex Mar 2014 #32
A while back I saw a preview for this movie SheilaT Mar 2014 #33
scenes that contradict Islam and the Bible, so we decided not to show it seveneyes Mar 2014 #36
I'm just not interested in the story. herding cats Mar 2014 #37
The Watchers are actually pretty interesting in the film. temporary311 Mar 2014 #47
Since Noah is an Old Testament story I wonder what the Jews think of it? jwirr Mar 2014 #40
I just have to add one thing here dsc Mar 2014 #50
I knew it was good when a fundy I know came back from the movie upset lol nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #51
I suspect that this is going to wind up on MST 3000 a few years from now, SheilaT Mar 2014 #54
I think it would be more interesting if it was in modern days. Ilsa Mar 2014 #55
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