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74. "I don't care who gets appointed"

Sat Mar 29, 2014, 02:27 PM

Mar 2014

Why are you on a political board then?

That is such an anti-democratic sentiment. The whole point of a democracy is the the govt do the people's bidding, that the people stay involved, that the people voice their opinions to sway their elected officials.

deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed

If you simply don't care what a politician does you are abdicating your responsibility as a citizen of the US.

By your post it seems that you are willing to put all your trust and faith in a politician (ill-advised to be sure) to do whatever they feel is best. Then, when they do things people don't like, the people should remain quiet with their criticism because standing up for principles will make people vote for other people with worse ideas (Republicans).

That's just not how a democracy works. Honestly, I don't even understand why you are posting on a political board if you simply don't care who the president appoints. He appointed Wall Street into the White House right after he got elected. At a time when we all knew what sharks Wall Street execs had - and continue to be - been. A lot of people didn't like that move, but you, by your own admission didn't care.

Why is it wrong for others to voice their opinion and say it was a bad thing? You think that will make people vote Republican? I think it just makes the Democratic Party closer to Republican Party when the Dem leaders keep doing things that Republicans would do and no one calls them on it because they have faith that their leaders will do what is right.

You are giving away democracy by wanting critics to remain silent. And you are enabling the move of the Dem Party further to the right by not caring what the president does and complaining about those who do care and who criticize him when he does something questionable and beyond.

Check out my sig. That's exactly what democracy and the first amendment is all about. In order for a democracy to work, it must have a robust discussion of its government and its actions.

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For anyone who thinks its okay to bash POTUS [View all] darkangel218 Mar 2014 OP

We would talk about war with Syria and Russia /nt jakeXT Mar 2014 #1

I think we would have already been at war. darkangel218 Mar 2014 #2

None of it is constructive criticism treestar Mar 2014 #3

I am a scumbag because I criticize policy; YOU claim that is President bashing. antiquie Mar 2014 #5

I'm reminded of the French monarch who, when told the people were not criticizing him but rather Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #11

Most of it is not constructive criticism of any policy treestar Mar 2014 #21

Just when and where did I even say he was a bad president? antiquie Mar 2014 #27

I am not driving anyone away treestar Mar 2014 #36

Until your last couple of posts you were addressing me. antiquie Mar 2014 #40

It's so easy to offend! treestar Mar 2014 #49

Lol! That is truly funny Katashi_itto Mar 2014 #58

That's just false. treestar Mar 2014 #61

they *want* to drive people away. It is a minority who want the forums newthinking Mar 2014 #77

If I sincerely believe that he could have fought harder and didn't then saying totodeinhere Mar 2014 #72

I've never seen you acknowledge any criticism of Obama as legitmate. Marr Mar 2014 #140

You're assuming there has to be criticism that is legitimate treestar Mar 2014 #150

Of course you don't have to agree with every criticism. Marr Mar 2014 #154

I haven't seen a lot of good ones for the DU dust ups treestar Mar 2014 #155

Really? treestar Mar 2014 #20

Your language is completely unacceptable to me. antiquie Mar 2014 #30

You can't claim to be better with that language about The Great One treestar Mar 2014 #38

You're not driving any one off. antiquie Mar 2014 #47

Yes, I do treestar Mar 2014 #60

You are right Caretha Mar 2014 #130

Don't you dare leave! In_The_Wind Mar 2014 #23

+10000 G_j Mar 2014 #25

What is being criticized is the manner in which is done. No probem in criticizing but calling Obama lumpy Mar 2014 #52

They know that.... Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #114

Says who? Caretha Mar 2014 #136

I was under the impression that only ReThugs referred to the H in Obama'a name. Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #57

Didn't catch that. treestar Mar 2014 #62

Not necessarily. The official Barack Obama biography at the White House website refers to him as totodeinhere Mar 2014 #75

Of course they use the H...it's his official name. Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #102

Bingo. BlueCaliDem Mar 2014 #143

Oh please! That is so stupid! rusty fender Mar 2014 #147

I picked that up too. rufus dog Mar 2014 #119

I agree, Treestar. darkangel218 Mar 2014 #6

I know, you'd think there were no repukes dark angel treestar Mar 2014 #22

Anyone who hangs Caretha Mar 2014 #139

They They They They.. G_j Mar 2014 #32

I doubt you are innocent of that treestar Mar 2014 #44

frankly, G_j Mar 2014 #73

You know what would help? cui bono Mar 2014 #54

Whatever leaves the impression that Obama is personally disliked or hated by Democrats is lumpy Mar 2014 #78

Impressions are in the eye of the beholder. cui bono Mar 2014 #88

+1 LittleBlue Mar 2014 #112

There is some of that at DU. But to say that "none" of it is constructive is quite a stretch. totodeinhere Mar 2014 #67

I have seen very little constructive criticism of Obama on this site. Most response has been drawn lumpy Mar 2014 #87

Expressing disappointment at the POTUS's actions or words is constructive criticism. Gormy Cuss Mar 2014 #79

Judging by some posts these days on DU BlueCaliDem Mar 2014 #4

+1 n/t FSogol Mar 2014 #7

Well, if we had McCain or Romney as president at least we'd be united in our misery and outrage. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2014 #13

You know, sometimes I think there are some who are happiest when they"re the party in opposition. nt Fla Dem Mar 2014 #68

and, that would be the very Least of OUR concerns. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #152

They hate him more than they hated Bush! treestar Mar 2014 #24

Exactly, treestar. BlueCaliDem Mar 2014 #65

Yes, it's not human nature to turn on something you worked hard for treestar Mar 2014 #148

Most of those naysayers here are Libertarians or Liberaltarians BlueCaliDem Mar 2014 #157

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #141

+1 JustAnotherGen Mar 2014 #55

Watching some of these folks Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #59

Oh, we *know* why they're here. BlueCaliDem Mar 2014 #82

+1 redqueen Mar 2014 #103

There's a big difference between bashing from the right and calling out from the left. Scuba Mar 2014 #8

There is no purity test involved. darkangel218 Mar 2014 #9

Not offended, but I cringe when I see folks trying to pull us left equated with right-wing bashers. Scuba Mar 2014 #10

We dont have to be vile when we criticise. darkangel218 Mar 2014 #12

I hope I'm never "vile", but you must realize there's a huge amount of frustration with .... Scuba Mar 2014 #14

I know and i agree. We should speak up. darkangel218 Mar 2014 #17

Congratulations Scuba and darkanglel 218 Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #92

Well said, darkangel.. "But not in a way where we dig our own graves." Cha Mar 2014 #113

I just don't feel betrayed by all that treestar Mar 2014 #26

That's the saddest post I've ever read. Scuba Mar 2014 #28

To me it's sad when someone says they feel betrayed treestar Mar 2014 #41

You got that right BrotherIvan Mar 2014 #43

How am I going to keep track of each appointment and act of the Presidency? treestar Mar 2014 #48

So keeping neocons and Bush appointees in place BrotherIvan Mar 2014 #51

Has that been the case for every single office? treestar Mar 2014 #63

It a cop out to say you just can't keep track of stuff mindwalker_i Mar 2014 #69

If you admittedly don't have the time to keep track of every appointment cui bono Mar 2014 #80

I agree. Sad and almost pathetic. grasswire Mar 2014 #101

"I don't care who gets appointed" cui bono Mar 2014 #74

Yes, I appreciate that you don't take the vile insulting crap road. And, I'm sure you realize Cha Mar 2014 #115

Sadly, my reading is different. While he's done some good things the good is overwhelmed ... Scuba Mar 2014 #116

I think you're way off but that's your opinion.. my is the opposite so we will just have to Cha Mar 2014 #117

What grade would you give him on handling the banks? Monsanto? How heavily do you weigh .... Scuba Mar 2014 #118

Bullshit on your measley attempt to smear President Obama with the kochs. Cha Mar 2014 #120

How about the Keystone Pipeline. Will the President approve it? Who stands to gain from it? Scuba Mar 2014 #121

Well said Cha! sheshe2 Mar 2014 #142

Mahalo, she.. Yeah, it doesn't matter what Obama has done or Cha Mar 2014 #144

You hit the nail in one sentence. Thanks lumpy Mar 2014 #91

This message was self-deleted by its author Trajan Mar 2014 #106

It's the CT-tool-of-the-MIC-America-is-the-bane-of-humanity fare that brings that out BeyondGeography Mar 2014 #37

I agree, I don't think posters should not be equated with right wing bashers, or similar responses. lumpy Mar 2014 #66

But, the president isn't running -this- year. HereSince1628 Mar 2014 #15

he also said that the most important thing right now BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2014 #29

So, dem candidates should provide things that attract voters to them. HereSince1628 Mar 2014 #35

to the nonpolitical it will encourage them to not bother voting treestar Mar 2014 #42

There are a lot of nonpoliticals aroung here, aren't there? HereSince1628 Mar 2014 #56

in all honesty.... grasswire Mar 2014 #104

United we stand, divided we fall. NCTraveler Mar 2014 #16

much better chance of that happening if we get more Dems BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2014 #33

I agree. Time for the pro-war, pro-insurance, pro-drilling, pro-TPP, pro-KXL, pro-chained CPI, Doctor_J Mar 2014 #158

Thanks, Dark Angel WhiteTara Mar 2014 #18

Attribution correction! It's Ben Franklin WhiteTara Mar 2014 #84

+1 million darkangel218 Mar 2014 #90

I agree but being United is a two way street Babel_17 Mar 2014 #19

K&R for a well-worded appeal to reason BeyondGeography Mar 2014 #31

a a "hideous hermaphroditical character.." Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #34

Just because vile sniping was used in the past doesn't mean it should continue to be the standard. lumpy Mar 2014 #94

Get back to me after the next presidential campaign. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #95

I wont get back to you most likely. Sure, the Repubs will get shit on, but it will relieve the shit lumpy Mar 2014 #100

We're going to fall tabasco Mar 2014 #39

This is the second OP with the same message? BrotherIvan Mar 2014 #45

You came forth with a lovely example of what we have been talking about. lumpy Mar 2014 #96

some people seem to get off on the attention from POTUS-bashing around here stg81 Mar 2014 #46

LOL! HangOnKids Mar 2014 #131

It's official, DU has turned into Jr High.... :-/ n/t DeSwiss Mar 2014 #50

It's okay to follow your principles and speak your mind, always. whatchamacallit Mar 2014 #53

Yes we should all strive to keep our tempers in check and remain civil. But that totodeinhere Mar 2014 #64

I agree, toto. darkangel218 Mar 2014 #76

I'm a regular poster on Israel Conflict Board Baconeater Mar 2014 #70

Wha? "Because Yahoo comments" is an argument now? cthulu2016 Mar 2014 #71

Desperate people say desperate things. Rex Mar 2014 #83

I dont belong to any "crews". darkangel218 Mar 2014 #85

Yeah right you just got out of timeout and started right in on meta. Rex Mar 2014 #86

The attacks towards POTUS were technically Meta as well. darkangel218 Mar 2014 #93

...not sure that word means what you think it does. nt Union Scribe Mar 2014 #97

Whatever. darkangel218 Mar 2014 #98

Discussion of politics is technically Meta? cthulu2016 Mar 2014 #99

Yep. GoCubsGo Mar 2014 #81

My signature line says it all. SmittynMo Mar 2014 #89

I saw criticism, not bashing. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #105

So, anyone who criticizes this Democratic President Trajan Mar 2014 #107

"Anyone" "MUST" Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #108

Useless Trajan Mar 2014 #110

Useless Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #111

Most of the Fan Club have broken with reality Doctor_J Mar 2014 #126

LOL ... forgot about you. 1000words Mar 2014 #109

it is your duty as a citizen to think critically noiretextatique Mar 2014 #122

how is Alaska? Kali Mar 2014 #123

I dont know, you tell me. darkangel218 Mar 2014 #124

you didn't get your degree in January and move to Alaska Kali Mar 2014 #125

i think she may have not passed a portion of the boards CreekDog Mar 2014 #127

I never said i moved. I said i was considering. darkangel218 Apr 2014 #162

I agree, there are so many things on the rightwing to criticise, I have no idea why people... DrewFlorida Mar 2014 #128

You basically just unwittingly defended DU's Obama critics Maven Mar 2014 #129

Jackpot! HangOnKids Mar 2014 #132

Thankee Maven Mar 2014 #161

So criticism of our guy amounts to support for the opposition. TroglodyteScholar Mar 2014 #133

In a nutshell HangOnKids Mar 2014 #134

Welcome back darkangel! hrmjustin Mar 2014 #135

Thanks Justin! darkangel218 Mar 2014 #137

. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #138

Threads like this keep the flame alive. If you really want to get even, and apparently that's rhett o rick Mar 2014 #145

Until he repeals Race to the Top and Common Core I will criticize him all I want. liberal_at_heart Mar 2014 #146

This is BS. I have read Wills posts and still will vote for a Dem in 2014, 2016. People..... Logical Mar 2014 #149

Every fucking DUer will vote straight D this year, and 16, and 18, and so on, until they die Doctor_J Mar 2014 #159

Great point. nt Logical Mar 2014 #160

If you don't agree with me then you must be a member of the tea party! L0oniX Mar 2014 #151

If you don't agree with me then you must Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #153

Regarding united we stand. chknltl Mar 2014 #156