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In reply to the discussion: NATO country (Turkey) just caught planning a false flag attack to jumpstart war against Syria [View all]Catherina
(35,568 posts)49. No, not good at all
It explains why McCain is front and center, trotting around to the same hotspots making all sorts of promises, too.
DUer Koko tried to sound the bell about Nuland. Koko's post was where I got my head's up
Thursday, 19 May 2011
The strange appointment of Victoria Nuland as State Department Spokesperson
By Patricia H. Kushlis
Update: 7/12/2013 - Toria grilled about Benghazi role at Senate Foreign Relations Committee confirmation hearing today for her next high level position: Assistant Secretary of State for Europe
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Is Hillary asleep at the switch? What is going on here?
Earlier this week, Josh Rogin at FP and Eric Martin at Progressive Realist both flagged the curious appointment of Victoria Nuland as the next State Department Spokesperson to fill P.J. Crowleys shoes.
Martin questions whether this has foreign policy implications, in particular the replacement of an anti-torture appointee with someone who served as Principal Deputy National Security Advisor to Vice President Cheney.
Rogin doesnt directly raise potential administration policy shifts but does point out that once upon a time Nuland was Strobe Talbotts Chief of Staff when he was Deputy Secretary of State during the Clinton Administration and that Talbott had thought very highly of her at the time and still does. In fact, he, according to Rogin, praised her to the hilt in an interview about the pending appointment. So the seemingly amoral Nuland, were led to believe, can and will do anyones bidding and do it well in short, a consummate career diplomat.
Why?
But why would Hillary Clinton and the Obama administration agree to appoint to this politically sensitive position someone who willingly served such a controversial figure in supporting and implementing the war on terror and all the baggage that comes with it? Furthermore, how reliable is a Talbott reference anyway? After all, I understand that he just helped his friend Robert Kagan, Nulands neocon husband, get a job at Brookings and Talbott is also a friend of neocon writer Marc Gerecht, the husband of Diane Zeleny who also just latched onto a likely sweetheart deal sort of appointment as Head of External Relations and Congressional Affairs at the Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG). Whether Zeleny deserves or is qualified for the position or not.
From what I know about the Department, an FSO doesnt just get detailed to the staff of a highly charged and ideological Vice President unless that detailee agrees to follow the bosss dictates. Cheneys were all too often forceful and odious. Furthermore, does anyone really think that Cheney with his penchant for super loyalty and secrecy - would have ever accepted Nuland (or anyone else) for the position without some kind of loyalty test?
Surely the State Department under Hillary Clinton could have found equally (or likely even better) qualified career candidates who do not carry Nulands political baggage.
Behind the scenes trade off?
......Continued at the Link.....
http://whirledview.typepad.com/whirledview/2011/05/the-strange-appointment-of-victoria-nuland-as-states-spokesperson.html
Taken from http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024461021#post2
The strange appointment of Victoria Nuland as State Department Spokesperson
By Patricia H. Kushlis
Update: 7/12/2013 - Toria grilled about Benghazi role at Senate Foreign Relations Committee confirmation hearing today for her next high level position: Assistant Secretary of State for Europe
.
Is Hillary asleep at the switch? What is going on here?
Earlier this week, Josh Rogin at FP and Eric Martin at Progressive Realist both flagged the curious appointment of Victoria Nuland as the next State Department Spokesperson to fill P.J. Crowleys shoes.
Martin questions whether this has foreign policy implications, in particular the replacement of an anti-torture appointee with someone who served as Principal Deputy National Security Advisor to Vice President Cheney.
Rogin doesnt directly raise potential administration policy shifts but does point out that once upon a time Nuland was Strobe Talbotts Chief of Staff when he was Deputy Secretary of State during the Clinton Administration and that Talbott had thought very highly of her at the time and still does. In fact, he, according to Rogin, praised her to the hilt in an interview about the pending appointment. So the seemingly amoral Nuland, were led to believe, can and will do anyones bidding and do it well in short, a consummate career diplomat.
Why?
But why would Hillary Clinton and the Obama administration agree to appoint to this politically sensitive position someone who willingly served such a controversial figure in supporting and implementing the war on terror and all the baggage that comes with it? Furthermore, how reliable is a Talbott reference anyway? After all, I understand that he just helped his friend Robert Kagan, Nulands neocon husband, get a job at Brookings and Talbott is also a friend of neocon writer Marc Gerecht, the husband of Diane Zeleny who also just latched onto a likely sweetheart deal sort of appointment as Head of External Relations and Congressional Affairs at the Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG). Whether Zeleny deserves or is qualified for the position or not.
From what I know about the Department, an FSO doesnt just get detailed to the staff of a highly charged and ideological Vice President unless that detailee agrees to follow the bosss dictates. Cheneys were all too often forceful and odious. Furthermore, does anyone really think that Cheney with his penchant for super loyalty and secrecy - would have ever accepted Nuland (or anyone else) for the position without some kind of loyalty test?
Surely the State Department under Hillary Clinton could have found equally (or likely even better) qualified career candidates who do not carry Nulands political baggage.
Behind the scenes trade off?
......Continued at the Link.....
http://whirledview.typepad.com/whirledview/2011/05/the-strange-appointment-of-victoria-nuland-as-states-spokesperson.html
Taken from http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024461021#post2
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NATO country (Turkey) just caught planning a false flag attack to jumpstart war against Syria [View all]
Catherina
Mar 2014
OP
All week long, Turkish media has been carrying stories about a supposed tomb threat by ISIL
Catherina
Mar 2014
#3
Too bad YouTube wasn't around for all the false-flag ops by US and Isareal in the past. nt
kelliekat44
Mar 2014
#79
I highly doubt that Turkey is acting in Syria without the ok of a certain more powerful NATO member
JVS
Mar 2014
#5
+1 Gorbachev should have consulted with the native Americans who got the same kind of promises
Catherina
Mar 2014
#69
Dishonoring treaties and agreements not to mention the contemptible hypocrisy...
2banon
Mar 2014
#77
And now the world is pointing out the obvious hypocrisy of our claims. Something that
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#81
NATO has become nothing more that the "Enforcement Arm" of the GLobal Banks and the IMF.
bvar22
Mar 2014
#64
and we have the willfully ignorant supporters of these policies in the party that's supposed
2banon
Mar 2014
#84
Read the 2 KOS diaries in post 3. Stupid me, I really thought it was just pre-election censorship
Catherina
Mar 2014
#10
It's like the Ashton and Nuland tapes. Not getting any exposure by our corrupt MSM
Catherina
Mar 2014
#12
Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't pick up on that until ur post. +1000 for those metaphors! n/t
Catherina
Mar 2014
#91
I highly doubt so too. If they had, it would be on he front page of every single paper
Catherina
Mar 2014
#30
lists of "suspects", including well-known journalists, are already ready and mass arrests coming
Catherina
Mar 2014
#31
Kicking for reading later today. Thanks for bringing so much information. It's all important. n/t
Judi Lynn
Mar 2014
#21
At the same time another NATO country is busted discussing a false flag operation
Catherina
Mar 2014
#43
FOX News (#Fail)): " Jihadist threat against sacred Turkish tomb threatens to widen Syria's war"
Catherina
Mar 2014
#32
Good catch. I wondering why they started blathering on about that tomb all of a sudden.
bemildred
Mar 2014
#36
I read comments from many Turkish people who said they never even heard of this tomb
Catherina
Mar 2014
#39
Good. It looks like Turkey may have its own Snowden doing what's right.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2014
#35
In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2014
#40
Erdogan blames the opposition. I'm closer to you. I think a new front in cyberwarfare has opened
Catherina
Mar 2014
#42
wsws: "Turkish officials plan false-flag attacks to create pretext for war with Syria"
Catherina
Mar 2014
#37
The ditto-heads cackling and congratulating themselves for seeing through the illusion.
randome
Mar 2014
#51
US Dept of State responds:“In terms of the alleged recordings, just aren't going to have any comment
Catherina
Mar 2014
#55
I guess the State Department doesn't have translators? Lots of people in the US could
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#101
Thank you. I appreciate your support and the support of the other respected recommenders.
Catherina
Mar 2014
#62
Turkey prohibits news coverage, reporting, commentary etc... of the recently released recordings
Catherina
Mar 2014
#63
Too bad our ally over there cannot censor the World. So they were planning to attack themselves,
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#82
Between the features to ignore certain posters and auto-trashing threads by keyword
Catherina
Mar 2014
#92
"Turkey to scrutinise foreign office after espionage leak"... "everyone and everything"
Catherina
Mar 2014
#75
Looks like they were plotting a CRIME, and they have they have the nerve to ignore what was revealed
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#94
I was told on DU that there no rule of law for the Ruling Class and it is foolish of us to demand
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#97
Pres Carter wins this one: "“America does not at the moment have a functioning democracy,”
Catherina
Mar 2014
#103