Does anyone here really think people bashing the president will vote for the GOP in 2014, 2016?

[politicman]

209. any low Dem turnout will be solely the fault of Dem leaders, they need to encourage Dem..

turnout by pushing Dem policies, not by continuing to kowtow to corporate interests.


Your post misses one key aspect.

If the GOP keeps the house and wins the senate because many Dem voters decide to stay home on election day, then the blame rests squarely on the Dem Party and those that will choose to vote for it simply because the GOP are worse.

How on earth can progressives improve the Dem Party if they will always vote for it because it is not as bad as GOP?

Seriously, if the Dem Leadership can count on Dem voters making the decision that the GOP is worse and thus votes for which ever candidate the Dems put up, then how can the leadership be forced to put up better candidates that will actually fight for liberal causes instead of kowtowing to corporate interests?


Yes by staying home, it benefits the GOP but it only benefits them because GOP voters are determined to go to the polls to support their politicians who always fight for their wrong causes.

If Dem Party also did this for what we know are the correct policies (liberal ideas), the Dem voters would be just as determined to get to the polls and support their candidates who would fight tooth and nail for liberal ideas.


Look its easy to get people to vote against something, but to beat that you need to give people a reason to vote for something.

If Dem Party and Obama offer up candidates and policies which don't differ that much from the GOP, what encouragement do Dem voters have to actually vote.


You have to give the Dem Party a hell of a scare by showing that you won't bother to vote if they don't fight tooth and nail for Dem policies, BUT to be able to legitimately scare them you need to be prepared to actually give them a loss at the polls if they won't heed the warnings.