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mercuryblues

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157. yes

Sun Mar 30, 2014, 12:52 PM

Mar 2014

yes it does have to specifically be that.

You may have other things to worry about that women generally don't have to. Don't you mean some women? I am not denying that, nor and I minimizing it. As an AA, I am sure you do worry about things that I as a white person don't. However, I am not about to say because I don't personally experience it or have to worry about it, it doesn't exist.

Instead I prefer to recognize it and do my best to not contribute to it. I do not defend it by denying it exists. Giving those that participate in poor behavior less and less room to work in. I will not minimize the way some people feel by saying well I have this, this, and this to worry about instead so your issues are of no concern to me. Instead I choose to empathize with a person and their struggles, knowing that even though they are not the same; they are there.

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In 1987, a radical feminist called all sexual contact "degrading to women" and "rape." [View all] Archae Mar 2014 OP

that's not how it works . it's people who say "of course what he did was wrong, but why did she JI7 Mar 2014 #1

The point is "rape culture" is just the latest excuse. Archae Mar 2014 #5

You need to stop typing and start reading because you're making a fool of yourself. LeftyMom Mar 2014 #8

^this^ Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #69

Yup. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2014 #89

Thank you LeftyMom! thucythucy Mar 2014 #112

Once again LeftyMom, MuseRider Mar 2014 #124

So being raped makes one a final authority on something as subjective as the idea of rape culture? phil89 Mar 2014 #159

another one.... really???? wtf is going on. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #161

this was a piece of shit thing to say, and jury allowed to stand 3-3. i think it should have had a seabeyond Mar 2014 #169

That tells you a lot about how far DU has descended. Jamastiene Mar 2014 #340

yes. i agree. then we roll the dice saying something in the thread. i prefer to take my chances. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #343

Some days I wonder if it is worth it. Jamastiene Mar 2014 #346

i know. yes yes yes. and with that jamastiene, i think a glass of wine is in order.... seabeyond Mar 2014 #347

Tell me about it. Jamastiene Mar 2014 #349

Yeah, it pretty much does. Starry Messenger Mar 2014 #192

It means I've thought about rape and why it happens more than you. Because I had to. LeftyMom Mar 2014 #228

Sounds more like you are telling women who have been raped to STFU. n/t Jamastiene Mar 2014 #354

OHHHH phil..OH BOY, STOP while you're ahead....Man, this is NOT what you need to be Ecumenist Apr 2014 #429

that is good. i have not heard that since i was a kid and figured it out seabeyond Apr 2014 #432

Thank you. n/t Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #280

+1 cui bono Mar 2014 #321

Thank you + a billion REP Mar 2014 #325

+100000000000 Jamastiene Mar 2014 #352

Yep, exactly right LM! bettyellen Mar 2014 #365

The problem is when you call shit rape culture that isn't. joeglow3 Apr 2014 #415

you tell your daughter to cover up, dont go out after dark, do not drink, do not go to a mans seabeyond Apr 2014 #417

You need to take a statistics class joeglow3 Apr 2014 #418

majority of rapes for girls are college campus and military. 87% of rapes are date rapes seabeyond Apr 2014 #419

I know I am pissing in the wind, but I will try ONE time joeglow3 Apr 2014 #420

Statistically the people who are most dangerous to your daughter are family members and boyfriends. LeftyMom Apr 2014 #421

I agree with what you said joeglow3 Apr 2014 #422

Wrong. That is not what it is at all BainsBane Mar 2014 #12

Archae is just trying to gin up replies Scootaloo Mar 2014 #17

He certainly made an impression BainsBane Mar 2014 #18

Most people do, when they run headfirst into walls Scootaloo Mar 2014 #19

... Cleita Mar 2014 #22

Says the person who called a rape victim a liar and hounded her off this website. Sheldon Cooper Mar 2014 #59

Why do I get the feeling that what you just said is 100% B.S.? nt AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #311

i do not know. but you would be wrong. and ya, jury hid some, allowed some. seabeyond Mar 2014 #312

It happened. She got a DU vacation for it. nt sufrommich Mar 2014 #317

Not to mention, said that women who are harassed are sick and let it happen. KitSileya Apr 2014 #411

Thank you for that link. passiveporcupine Apr 2014 #406

Have you heard creeksneakers2 Mar 2014 #53

I may be misremembering but, didn't his wife speak out in defense of him? Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #74

Rape culture is not an excuse. I think you are misunderstanding the concept. Maedhros Mar 2014 #2

Oh, that is a relief! KitSileya Mar 2014 #3

I do not think you understand what "rape culture" is. uppityperson Mar 2014 #4

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There's a broad acceptance of raping someone incapacitated by drugs or booze Gormy Cuss Mar 2014 #108

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And with all the precautions in the world, the first question will still be Gormy Cuss Mar 2014 #115

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Well, murder isn't a case of "he said, she said" because one of the parties is dead. Gormy Cuss Mar 2014 #264

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They're both violent crimes. Gormy Cuss Mar 2014 #283

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OMG... he has hit every point. NOW... WOMEN, prevent your rape, cause men agree that is our best seabeyond Mar 2014 #116

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ya. you did "even say that" then go on to reinforce it in this post seabeyond Mar 2014 #123

What do you mean "do whatever you can to avoid becoming one of the victims"? uppityperson Mar 2014 #183

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Tell that to the 80 yr old who got raped in her bedroom. Tell that to the 12 yr old who got uppityperson Mar 2014 #243

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TEll the 3-yr old victim whose250 lb daddy's safety is more important than hers Tsiyu Mar 2014 #277

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It's really amazing how many low count posters Tsiyu Mar 2014 #281

yup. like a duh.... nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #286

That must have been quite the planning session! Tsiyu Mar 2014 #289

What should this three year old girl have done? Starry Messenger Mar 2014 #266

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If the guy is set free - as many rapists are - he will rape again Tsiyu Mar 2014 #284

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I just have a question Tsiyu Mar 2014 #291

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to "prevent" our rape, are we allowed to cross the street, or does that hurt the mans feelers. seabeyond Mar 2014 #120

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you are a trip. and a oldtimer. you know the arguments, with little info. how does she know he is seabeyond Mar 2014 #151

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no MOST women would nto go to bed and forget it. you, as a man, do not get to be the voice for most seabeyond Mar 2014 #158

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your dismissal is noted. you participate in the mra agenda of dismissal, and i really do not seabeyond Mar 2014 #171

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Glad to see that poster removed gollygee Mar 2014 #323

He probably lasted a lot longer sufrommich Mar 2014 #324

a child that is mentally more mature than a 40 something yr old man. he cant think when the dick seabeyond Mar 2014 #114

If that is true, why is it illegal? n/t lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #129

Because it should be illegal. n/t Gormy Cuss Mar 2014 #133

didnt the MRA recently get pissed cause FBI extended definition of rape to actual rapes of men seabeyond Mar 2014 #136

Of course it should. Which instantly and completely discredits the "broad acceptance" argument. n/t lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #165

No, it doesn't. uppityperson Mar 2014 #188

speeding would be clearer passiveporcupine Apr 2014 #407

Nope, because the law isn't clear enough to offer full protection. n/t Gormy Cuss Mar 2014 #261

i see the leader has arrived CreekDog Mar 2014 #368

Remember that poster that once admitted to date raping a woman on DU? Jamastiene Mar 2014 #348

Why was the man who raped me never prosecuted and instead I was looked at with rolling eyes? uppityperson Mar 2014 #182

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Thank you for proving the point that there is rape culture. Exhibit A, right here. uppityperson Mar 2014 #207

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Why should it make it harder to establish what happened? Most rapes it is the case of 1 person's uppityperson Mar 2014 #227

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And that is a good example of rape culture. uppityperson Mar 2014 #251

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Yes. You are being completely unreasonable. Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #288

Barely gollygee Mar 2014 #232

The person who raped me almost certainly doesn't think of himself as a rapist. LeftyMom Mar 2014 #6

Have you sought help in dealing with the hurt of being raped? RC Mar 2014 #141

That's an odd and personal question. LeftyMom Mar 2014 #142

the point this poster is making is you speak out angrily cause you have not had professional seabeyond Mar 2014 #148

Yeah, that was my read. I'm uppity because I'm mad at my rapist. I need therapy so I'll shut up. LeftyMom Mar 2014 #152

exactly. and i get it. that is how most women process it. to have a man pat our head... seabeyond Mar 2014 #163

A genuine concern for my well-being would have been by PM. Publically telling me I need therapy was LeftyMom Mar 2014 #174

he often, i mean consistently uses his Xgf and her need of therapy as a weapon against feminist here seabeyond Mar 2014 #185

It was a blatant attempt to cause you pain. Thank god he's been PPR'd. Squinch Mar 2014 #395

I'm just glad he's not going to do it to anybody else here. LeftyMom Mar 2014 #396

I know you can handle it, but it was disturbing to see him slathering around your posts. Squinch Mar 2014 #397

It was gross. LeftyMom Mar 2014 #398

He should have been booted a long time ago. He was putting out that Squinch Mar 2014 #399

Actually not. RC Mar 2014 #155

Golly gee, I never knew there was help available. THANKS so much for telling us that! I'd never have uppityperson Mar 2014 #195

They you should know how many do not know there is help out there. RC Mar 2014 #202

And your response to someone pointing out what rape culture is is to ask her if she knew there uppityperson Mar 2014 #211

What is wrong with seeking help for something that you are having a problem with? RC Mar 2014 #226

You miss the point. What is wrong is responding to an example of rape culture by asking them uppityperson Mar 2014 #234

Have you sought professional help for your patronizing attitude? cui bono Mar 2014 #327

My patronizing attitude? RC Mar 2014 #329

As a curious bystander ... GeorgeGist Mar 2014 #366

Why? Because we are social animals and do best when we help each other? RC Mar 2014 #367

Not a lot of help is out there GP6971 Mar 2014 #338

On the flip side, there would be more services available if there wasn't such a negative connotation RC Mar 2014 #339

Can't disagree with the stigma attached GP6971 Mar 2014 #341

You said: passiveporcupine Apr 2014 #408

wowser. gotta do another... wowser seabeyond Mar 2014 #144

Un-fucking-believable. nt. Rex Mar 2014 #170

me, yes, that. lol. seabeyond Mar 2014 #175

Me too. Just logged on and already I am getting ill looking at these replies. Rex Mar 2014 #177

What an asinine post. nt sufrommich Mar 2014 #149

How so? RC Mar 2014 #156

She made a statement that her rapist probably sufrommich Mar 2014 #162

I gave it anyway. RC Mar 2014 #187

I'm not in distress. LeftyMom Mar 2014 #191

Yeah,that's what you're doing "being an sufrommich Mar 2014 #193

Yep, Like responding to a cry for help. RC Mar 2014 #199

You're not helping and my post wasn't a "cry for help." Knock it off. LeftyMom Mar 2014 #201

you are one of the most strongest, boldest, vocal, ... sure ass woman on this board and rc seabeyond Mar 2014 #205

You are not the only one on this thread. RC Mar 2014 #217

You specifically asked ME if I had sought help for MY experience. LeftyMom Mar 2014 #221

So you admit passiveporcupine Apr 2014 #409

I'm ignoring him. PassingFair Mar 2014 #235

pretty much Kali Mar 2014 #394

Poof! PassingFair Apr 2014 #424

There was no "cry for help". Seriously, sufrommich Mar 2014 #203

because he is really working overtime to create her as pathetic, to discredit... as lefty says... seabeyond Mar 2014 #206

So, please point out precisely what in this statement suggested she was in distress? Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #292

"damaged goods." yes. that. and that has even been used and justified by too many. seabeyond Mar 2014 #304

Stuffing hurts? Rex Mar 2014 #168

They would rather play the victim card, than get help. RC Mar 2014 #190

ah, and here it is. lefty is playing the victim card with her rape. i knew there was a way you seabeyond Mar 2014 #194

To most here, my response would be, "You're kidding, correct"? RC Mar 2014 #381

no. you are not blaming the victim. you are pissed cause you accuse her of USING the victim card seabeyond Mar 2014 #382

And here we go again. JTFrog Mar 2014 #385

This is incredibly offensive. Stop talking about me in the third person. Stop Fristing me. LeftyMom Mar 2014 #197

just so you know - how a jury saw that comment Douglas Carpenter Mar 2014 #219

Thank you. It's always interesting who doesn't bother to justify their vote. LeftyMom Mar 2014 #225

I don't think it should be allowed passiveporcupine Apr 2014 #410

I was juror #5 etherealtruth Mar 2014 #231

I was the alerter. Starry Messenger Mar 2014 #237

Note that none of the "leave" votes explained sufrommich Mar 2014 #239

Maybe it isn't about you. RC Mar 2014 #383

Playing the victim card? No one did any such thing. cui bono Mar 2014 #380

to anybody reading RC's post, saying a rape victim played the "victim card" gets you banned from DU CreekDog Mar 2014 #392

thank Gawd EarlG "gets" it.. hlthe2b Mar 2014 #393

Not always. JTFrog Mar 2014 #401

i should have said "can" CreekDog Mar 2014 #402

It's none of your fucking business! Texasgal Mar 2014 #215

When it disrupts DU, it is everyone business. RC Mar 2014 #220

how was posting her real life Texasgal Mar 2014 #223

I'm not disrupting DU. I'm making a point about rape culture and consent using a personal experience LeftyMom Mar 2014 #224

It is the expected overall response to the OP, RC Mar 2014 #230

Asking her if she received counseling Texasgal Mar 2014 #238

How can an experience that happens to 25% of women BainsBane Mar 2014 #241

I do care. That is why I suggest getting help dealing with it. RC Mar 2014 #249

You said discussing a common crime BainsBane Mar 2014 #252

Nonsense. Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #295

That is not what I said. RC Mar 2014 #301

The problem is GP6971 Mar 2014 #351

THE ORIGINAL OP IS WHAT DISRUPTS DU Matariki Mar 2014 #253

No worse than the stuff the Group that can not be named, posts in GD. RC Mar 2014 #263

This message was self-deleted by its author CFLDem Mar 2014 #302

Really? Someone passively-aggressively harassing a poster about her past rape is fun to you? cui bono Mar 2014 #379

How did you come to that conclusion? CFLDem Mar 2014 #384

Easy. I followed the thread. What you proclaimed to be fun was another person cui bono Mar 2014 #390

This message was self-deleted by its author CFLDem Mar 2014 #391

That poster you were "having fun with" has engaged in an incredibly vicious and sick, prolonged Squinch Mar 2014 #400

This thread is not about having fun. cui bono Apr 2014 #405

I'm so happy that you're gone! Sheldon Cooper Apr 2014 #414

I am very sorry that RC said these things to you. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #403

Well you survived a jury. Rex Mar 2014 #7

That says as much about DU3 as it does about him. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #73

Agreed. n/t Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #297

Oh yay, more Dworkin / radical feminist bashing. redqueen Mar 2014 #9

Thank you for this! Out of Time Man Mar 2014 #23

My pleasure! redqueen Mar 2014 #106

^^^THIS^^^^ Lunacee_2013 Mar 2014 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2014 #41

"Any violation of a woman�s body can become sex for men." nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #51

Thank you for getting it. redqueen Mar 2014 #109

"Simply accepted the vilification of women like Catharine MacKinnon and Andrea Dworkin." yep. i felt seabeyond Mar 2014 #110

I'd like to give the OP the benefit of the doubt and just think they are ignorant but... Ohio Joe Mar 2014 #75

exactly. how many would willingly keep a known lie in an OP and then cry innocence? exactly. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #78

Any self respecting person would self delete, post an apology to society and Learn from this. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #83

That "benefit of the doubt" thing? Zorra Mar 2014 #103

These particular lies are very popular. redqueen Mar 2014 #113

Thank you for this. Bookmarked for future reference. thucythucy Mar 2014 #275

Thank you. n/t Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #298

Thank you for this. n/t cui bono Mar 2014 #328

How completely absurd BainsBane Mar 2014 #10

Ok...fine. Archae Mar 2014 #13

You know what? KitSileya Mar 2014 #14

Sorry you feel this way. mattclearing Apr 2014 #404

You'd better keep reading all the threads on it Warpy Mar 2014 #15

He gets it much better than the people that keep pushing the so-called rape culture mime around here RC Mar 2014 #145

Is there a broad view that it waan't really burglary because of the clothing worn? That the uppityperson Mar 2014 #28

But people tend not to make excuses for those crimes the way they all-too-frequently do nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #48

Was a burglary conviction ever overturned by a judge because the victims weren't upset enough? kcr Mar 2014 #68

because "they did not say no strongly enough" or were not injured enough in the crime? uppityperson Mar 2014 #198

You are taking every little thing and twisting it... davidn3600 Mar 2014 #38

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And a jury kept this 2-4. Amazing. alp227 Mar 2014 #11

You do realize that Jameis Winston wasn't convicted of anything right? mythology Mar 2014 #65

"indicate that the truth and due process don't matter." gotta look for the truth, have due process seabeyond Mar 2014 #66

Not really sure what Andrea Dworkin has to do with anything bluestateguy Mar 2014 #16

Rape Culture doesn't exist in the U.S.? Out of Time Man Mar 2014 #20

Didn't you hear about the NRA? Cleita Mar 2014 #21

Pretty sure one can be concerned with both. Out of Time Man Mar 2014 #26

The people who use casuistries to describe rape and murder, orpupilofnature57 Mar 2014 #47

Thank you! Out of Time Man Mar 2014 #52

There is no rape culture in this country. Rape does occur but it is and always Cleita Mar 2014 #276

You either are intentionally ignoring... Out of Time Man Mar 2014 #310

... pipoman Mar 2014 #24

*pops big kettle* nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #25

And in 1971, Susan Griffin wrote, "I have never been free of the fear of rape. Heidi Mar 2014 #27

I was walking to a friend's house in small town a few yrs go, past a vacant lot of which there are uppityperson Mar 2014 #31

And yet some equate fear of rape with fear of burglary, vandalism, or fraud. Heidi Mar 2014 #34

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and one that will never experience a lifetime of this, how easily it is for you to dismiss, without seabeyond Mar 2014 #60

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i read you words seabeyond Mar 2014 #62

Rape is our cross to bear, Heidi Mar 2014 #70

ya know. lol. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #72

have you mercuryblues Mar 2014 #117

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yes mercuryblues Mar 2014 #157

You seem very eager to discount women's experience and views suffragette Mar 2014 #160

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again, with your dismissals seabeyond Mar 2014 #67

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20 and you are calling me out personally, saying i am "obsessed" and i should not seabeyond Mar 2014 #79

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why do you feel the need to derail a conversation you have no interest in, you refuse to participate seabeyond Mar 2014 #82

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there is nothing in your post about challenging. there is only derailing. damn if you do not know seabeyond Mar 2014 #87

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ah. so you aer another newbie, that is merely longtime lurker ergo, knowing which women to go after seabeyond Mar 2014 #91

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and you had to register to come into these threads and put us in our place? well, gollygee. seabeyond Mar 2014 #98

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"and the Jury voted 2-4 to LEAVE IT" /nt pintobean Mar 2014 #92

poke poke poke. never an actual discussion of the issues seabeyond Mar 2014 #95

Now, posting jury results is bad? pintobean Mar 2014 #96

pfft... right,. seabeyond Mar 2014 #99

Why listen to anyone on an internet forum? BainsBane Mar 2014 #218

+1000 RC Mar 2014 #173

the way you and the poster you respond readily dismiss womens concern and thoughts, i hold little seabeyond Mar 2014 #178

Dysfunctional ideas? BainsBane Mar 2014 #285

"What is dysfunctional is the profound disrespect for other human beings..." RC Mar 2014 #299

is this what you are doing, so often using your xgf experience and lashing out at hof? seabeyond Mar 2014 #307

No, it's because I can see the problems, the anger issues, the passive aggressive responses here. RC Mar 2014 #331

Yeah, you insinuating that "certain members" here are sufrommich Mar 2014 #332

I am insinuating nothing of the sort. RC Mar 2014 #335

no. no, i do not think that is it. i think this whole post here, is xgf story, shielding and seabeyond Mar 2014 #334

Nice try. RC Mar 2014 #337

i disagree. looking just like projection to me. you did line it out for us to clearly see you do seabeyond Mar 2014 #344

She didn't lash out BainsBane Mar 2014 #364

I'm going to ask you to stop lying about me and talking about me as if I couldn't read your posts. LeftyMom Mar 2014 #386

Again, I am not talking about you specifically. RC Mar 2014 #387

Once again, this was our first interaction on this thread: LeftyMom Mar 2014 #388

Have you ever asked the women you know? BainsBane Mar 2014 #222

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That isn't what you just said above BainsBane Mar 2014 #248

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and benny likes to kick around women, ya know. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #273

explain this. explain why it is funny. explain why anyone thought it up. explain how it is no seabeyond Mar 2014 #76

Holy Christ that's vile. Chan790 Apr 2014 #427

hey chan. i guess none of the guys defending this garbage could explain how this is funny. nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #428

0 recommends. Red queens thread on rape culture hitting 70. You should be embarrassed seabeyond Mar 2014 #29

I am so sorry about your relative. I hope she is doing better today. Lunacee_2013 Mar 2014 #30

Your info on dworkin is a lie. I do not know anyone that would keep a lie in an op seabeyond Mar 2014 #32

And you interpretation of rape culture is simply wrong. Better to educate yourself on the issue than seabeyond Mar 2014 #33

Sure it exists in the US Spider Jerusalem Mar 2014 #35

Ermahgerd!!!!! Tsiyu Mar 2014 #37

IKR!? Rex Mar 2014 #39

According to RAINN, there is no rape culture on college campuses davidn3600 Mar 2014 #42

According to my neighbor Tsiyu Mar 2014 #44

Bigfoot has a Camaro? I would have figured him for a pick-up truck kinda guy. nt tblue37 Apr 2014 #430

And why do you guys keep hammering away at this? What exactly do you hope to gain? nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #49

That is not what RAINN said... Ohio Joe Mar 2014 #84

yes. i do not even bother. but, correct. that is not what rainn said. and MRA are using it, like seabeyond Mar 2014 #85

Link please? cui bono Mar 2014 #326

You are so totally wrong, especially about Stubenville Starry Messenger Mar 2014 #40

are you frelling serious? eShirl Mar 2014 #43

you are wrong. and so was dworkin. using an extreme example doesn't negate the fact cali Mar 2014 #45

Dworkin didn't say that. It is a misquote. nt tblue37 Apr 2014 #431

I've got a simple suggestion for you, Archae... MrScorpio Mar 2014 #46

agreed nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #308

What the hell does Dworkin have to do with anything? Seems like a complete non sequitur. nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #50

I've had my own quibbles with some DUers statements about patriarchy and rape culture but... Threedifferentones Mar 2014 #54

There isn't? ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #57

In the first place, I doubt seriously that you have MineralMan Mar 2014 #64

Like a fish swimming in water would say "there is no water culture" because they've never KittyWampus Mar 2014 #71

Our view has evolved since the 80s marshall Mar 2014 #80

"Thorny Issue" my ass. PlainJane1 Apr 2014 #423

right. the hypocrisy of who we are, lacking conviction. nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #426

RAINN accurately observes that accusing the innocent does nothing to bring the guilty to justice. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #90

"He agreed there are systemic issues" Ohio Joe Mar 2014 #93

Did I accurately quote from, and link to, the RAINN release? Yes, or no? lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #100

Yes, you do link to it... It is your re-wording that is bullshit Ohio Joe Mar 2014 #101

Jury Baiting: you're doing it wrong. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #105

ahhh... The old 'gender traitor' accusation... Ohio Joe Mar 2014 #118

Men voted for Romney by 54:46 ratio. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #127

And that was because of feminists? What a load of shit... Ohio Joe Mar 2014 #130

Back it up? lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #153

Yes... Stop dancing and back up your bullshit Ohio Joe Mar 2014 #164

men are fleeing the party = true. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #167

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #179

i thought you'd be happy CreekDog Mar 2014 #369

Wish I had a buck for every failed alert on me. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #370

well then why is MIRT removing those posters if the alerts are ridiculous CreekDog Mar 2014 #371

Perhaps because they are malicious intruders? Just a guess. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #372

"more MRA bullshit" +1000000. nt sufrommich Mar 2014 #128

Joe, I know this is off topic BainsBane Mar 2014 #269

Thanks... Ohio Joe Mar 2014 #272

I think NOT speaking up for it is the biggest mistake any of us can make. seabeyond Mar 2014 #274

ahhhh. those bad ole feminist makes the men vote repug. lol. gotcha. made the repugs tell us to seabeyond Mar 2014 #102

The only men who vote republican because uppity feminists sufrommich Mar 2014 #125

+1 redqueen Mar 2014 #135

"Men tend to vote for Republicans in part because the collective guilt directed their way by redqueen Mar 2014 #134

Hmmm,where have we heard that argument sufrommich Mar 2014 #137

if us women would only shut up... is said on a progressive board... nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #139

I wonder which "part". Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2014 #184

I hope the Admins are reading this thread. Starry Messenger Mar 2014 #210

+1. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #216

Out and out bullshit like that should get a pizza for being a misogynist... Ohio Joe Mar 2014 #240

If it doesn't, we'll just have to assume the owners of this place are fine with it. Starry Messenger Mar 2014 #245

This so much. It makes me sick. nt sufrommich Mar 2014 #244

I agree - Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #318

The concept of rape culture is NOT an accusation against *men*, so it is not about tblue37 Apr 2014 #433

Is the below poster an attempt to address and combat rape culture? lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #434

rainn also states actions we need to make addressing rape, one being a product of the rape culture seabeyond Mar 2014 #94

There's the problem. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2014 #172

It'd be worth offending people, if; lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #333

"Rape Culture" tends to be nebulous...I think focusing on specific acts might bring msanthrope Mar 2014 #374

Agree with that. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #376

Are you seriously trying to invoke Dworkin to shut down rape culture discussions? Gormy Cuss Mar 2014 #104

ha. true. lol. and i like. thanks gormy. NOW.... seabeyond Mar 2014 #107

I'd phrase it "the probability of someone smearing radical feminists / misquoting Andrea Dworkin" nt redqueen Mar 2014 #119

Well, yes, the same way calling someone a Nazi is used incorrectly. Gormy Cuss Mar 2014 #122

Kinda. But I don't think anyone engages in smearing Nazis in order to ensure that Nazi ideology redqueen Mar 2014 #131

Okay, lets start with this... Hippo_Tron Mar 2014 #138

especially considering until national internet outrage, the "boys" were not even charged, with video seabeyond Mar 2014 #140

I mean, not knowing one way or the other (and we don't, which is why I called BS) Hippo_Tron Mar 2014 #143

"Apathy is a big part of rape culture." point. so fuggin' on. and does not make people bad people seabeyond Mar 2014 #146

ignorance of your kind very much feeds it Skittles Mar 2014 #150

Some of these replies makes me sick to my stomach. Rex Mar 2014 #176

it is all in the ego.... or preferences. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #180

And some are MRA who know just what sufrommich Mar 2014 #186

It is unbelievable, I have to admit I did not notice the systematic bashing of women on DU1 or DU2. Rex Mar 2014 #358

the posts were deleted. not here. there were rules, no sexism. not now. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #361

Yes that must be it, no mod/admin deletes anymore. Rex Mar 2014 #362

Want to hear a good example of rape culture Arcanetrance Mar 2014 #189

Thank you for stating that and not taking sufrommich Mar 2014 #200

I can't take it personally they don't know me Arcanetrance Mar 2014 #208

you are right on dude. as always. and you said it from a different angle. maybe it will help. seabeyond Mar 2014 #209

Thank you for recognizing the dynamic, and sharing what you have noticed Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #319

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How incredibly offensive! Texasgal Mar 2014 #214

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FLAMEBAIT Matariki Mar 2014 #242

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Enjoy your stay Mr. 2-Posts Matariki Mar 2014 #254

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Lots of "newbies" in this thread. I hope MIRT sufrommich Mar 2014 #258

Now *there's* an appropriate use of scare-quotes Matariki Mar 2014 #262

I wonder who we have pintobean Mar 2014 #265

Whoever it was didn't pass the smell test. sufrommich Mar 2014 #267

"troll, sockpuppet or zombie" pintobean Mar 2014 #270

Bless your heart! etherealtruth Mar 2014 #260

You misunderstand what the term "rape culture" actually means. tblue37 Mar 2014 #255

She was a very sick, H2O Man Mar 2014 #278

You post bullshit from almost 30 years ago to try and prove rape culture does not exist? Ohio Joe Mar 2014 #282

I do hope that you're referring to Dworkin and not what happened to Archae's relative.....nt AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #303

Yes - nt Ohio Joe Mar 2014 #309

Rape has always been considered a criminal act in this country. Cleita Mar 2014 #294

That IS true, although..... AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #306

Yeah CFLDem Mar 2014 #315

Threads like this show my how blind people can be. I used to think it was just internet communicatio uppityperson Mar 2014 #296

Well..... AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #300

I remember hearing that. RandySF Mar 2014 #305

Does rape culture really exist? CFLDem Mar 2014 #313

wont they continue to buy into it, if people never discuss it to educate otherwise? seabeyond Mar 2014 #314

Doubtful CFLDem Mar 2014 #316

what a pathetically weak way to walk thru life. say nothing. have no conviction cause meh.... seabeyond Mar 2014 #320

Why did you start your OP with Andrea Dworkin? cui bono Mar 2014 #322

One nice thing about this thread - Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #330

only one of the names on that list surprised me. the rest--as expected. niyad Apr 2014 #413

I actually did a quick review of each of them, Ms. Toad Apr 2014 #416

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On days like this, I miss UnRec...and wish DU allowed for flat out Jamastiene Mar 2014 #342

+1. hear ya. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #345

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Yeah, say that after you've been raped, Jamastiene Mar 2014 #353

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Enjoy your stay! Rex Mar 2014 #355

Man,you sure made it back here quickly. nt sufrommich Mar 2014 #357

... ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #360

Dworkin is not relevant. Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #359

I can't believe you haven't self deleted this mess... cyberswede Mar 2014 #363

Not all feminists are Dworkin DonCoquixote Mar 2014 #373

Is she the author of the 50 Shades series? Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #375

Oh snap. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #377

Odd. Still no correction to the incorrect OP. Why? cui bono Mar 2014 #378

no. no correction. but he did start another thread to admit it is a lie and now is working at dissin seabeyond Mar 2014 #389

So you gonna fix the obvious distortion in your OP or just leave it? Rex Apr 2014 #412

Many of the conversations in this thread are clear illustrations of rape culture. Squinch Apr 2014 #425