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Demit

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29. Women's issues in the US are a cat in a tree? So, an unserious problem then?

Sun Mar 30, 2014, 01:59 PM

Mar 2014

And other countries are right across the street, and a building's on fire and children need to be rescued...I gotcha so far. But who's the fire department in this analogy?

This thread sounds like it might be a carryover from some other thread, & I'm coming in in the middle, but talk about ridiculous.

But your final sentence does stand alone, as a general statement, and in reply: Yes, it can be bad to tell somebody to appreciate what they have, when they are trying to get you to address a specific problem. You are being trivializing & diminishing. You are telling them the problem means so little to you that you're not even interested in discussing it. "Oh, look over there!" you are saying.

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Women in the US can discuss inequities, even if women elsewhere "have it worse" than we do. [View all] cyberswede Mar 2014 OP

True. rrneck Mar 2014 #1

????? when a women discusses the issues here... we will hear a man say: be thankful you live here seabeyond Mar 2014 #4

Rail away all you want. rrneck Mar 2014 #8

your post made no sense, hence the ??? why you do not understand what i said, says lots. seabeyond Mar 2014 #10

"no one is talking about Saudi Arabia." rrneck Mar 2014 #15

" rail, scream, jump and shout" rollin eyes. and i was not talking about saudi, literally. whatever seabeyond Mar 2014 #17

What were you talking about? nt rrneck Mar 2014 #20

derailing. seabeyond Mar 2014 #22

No. rrneck Mar 2014 #24

sea, the verbosity of the nonsensical posting you and others may find themselves responding to boston bean Mar 2014 #66

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #68

Now now, no need to get emotional. Sheldon Cooper Mar 2014 #71

At least I have one. rrneck Mar 2014 #74

This is really bothering you, isn't it? Sheldon Cooper Mar 2014 #86

I find it interesting. rrneck Mar 2014 #91

totally agree, lol. just a vote to lock then this, says lots. but consistent. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #69

That "Be thankful" bit is pathetic. Jackpine Radical Mar 2014 #25

exactly. and we would not have it better if we had stayed quiet. or if we do stay quiet now. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #36

Exactly, it is a dishonest, derailing, right-wing tactic. nt redqueen Mar 2014 #53

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #72

we had a poster, benny, that told us he liked to come in here and start shit with women, seabeyond Mar 2014 #75

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #77

me too. seabeyond Mar 2014 #85

Some of the postings here sound a lot like him too! boston bean Mar 2014 #87

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #95

Believe me you aren't missing a damned thing not knowing bennyboy. boston bean Mar 2014 #96

It looks like MIRT found him familiar, too Warpy Mar 2014 #108

Too bad so many left wing males turn authoritarian every time a woman says she doesn't like being... seabeyond Mar 2014 #111

Wow. What anger issues. HERVEPA Mar 2014 #28

shrill. lol. thanks seabeyond Mar 2014 #35

If you don't think you sound shrill, ask some other people. HERVEPA Mar 2014 #39

or, i understand that others have their own agenda to create a message as they choose. seabeyond Mar 2014 #42

Calm down, HERVEPA. Demit Mar 2014 #45

true dat. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #47

Sea didn't ask, but I'll answer ... etherealtruth Mar 2014 #50

ah, thank you. i think you are the cats meow too.... seabeyond Mar 2014 #54

+1 cui bono Mar 2014 #57

"anger issues", "shrill"... redqueen Mar 2014 #58

As an FYI, if you think you know my attitude towards women who speak out loudly in public HERVEPA Mar 2014 #64

Well, take it from me. Most of them women you have helped escort at planned parenthood boston bean Mar 2014 #80

I don't care what you think of my credibilty, actually. HERVEPA Mar 2014 #89

yes, I get it, and I never intended to demean your volunteer work. boston bean Mar 2014 #93

Ooo, personal risk. Demit Mar 2014 #90

our progressive men do support the things that benefit them, that is for sure. now, at the point of seabeyond Mar 2014 #92

Lol, even progressive men have to be men, I understand. Demit Mar 2014 #100

i see it a little more than just chest puffing. seabeyond Mar 2014 #103

I agree... cyberswede Mar 2014 #5

These discussions run on feelings. rrneck Mar 2014 #13

There are lots of obvious facts that can be pointed out in a discussion. Demit Mar 2014 #18

derailing 101. lol. yes. we see it in this very thread. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #21

That depends on the objectives of the person who introdues the subject. rrneck Mar 2014 #26

Did you speak about "outrage" and "emotions" to minorities and the LGBT community? cui bono Mar 2014 #33

So what would you like to hear? rrneck Mar 2014 #37

That post itself is patronizing. cui bono Mar 2014 #44

Again, what would you like to hear? rrneck Mar 2014 #48

Again, patronizing. cui bono Mar 2014 #51

I don't care how I'm "coming across". I can't control how you evaluate my affect. rrneck Mar 2014 #67

No you are absolutely wrong. cui bono Mar 2014 #84

I find it to be passive aggressive and just best to move on. boston bean Mar 2014 #79

It's completely passive agressive. cui bono Mar 2014 #81

good insight. boston bean Mar 2014 #82

Maybe he's trying to be meta, about discussions. Demit Mar 2014 #99

This must be a continuation of another thread. I have no idea wtf you are trying to say. Demit Mar 2014 #38

Absolutely. rrneck Mar 2014 #40

"The realities of political action will be brought to bear"? Demit Mar 2014 #52

Sure it does. What's your point? nt rrneck Mar 2014 #56

If you are looking for a support group, this thread isn't it. Demit Mar 2014 #61

Don't blame me if you can't keep up. rrneck Mar 2014 #65

Because I'm interested in the topic raised by the OP. Why don't you start your own thread? Demit Mar 2014 #78

Like it or not, the US is a cultural heavyweight that exports its way of life closeupready Mar 2014 #46

We've done a fine job of leading in Iraq and Afghanistan. rrneck Mar 2014 #55

Iraq/Afghanistan is not a trump card. closeupready Mar 2014 #107

true, and you want to know something really interesting with the womens movement. europe is seabeyond Mar 2014 #59

+1. Yes, a thousand times, yes! "working together", closeupready Mar 2014 #106

this is a fav, takling to you recently, i have been thinking about this poster. seabeyond Mar 2014 #110

Oh, I like that - would make a nice signature block! closeupready Mar 2014 #112

Why do you have to qualify the OP like that? n/t cui bono Mar 2014 #27

Although I don't understand your question... rrneck Mar 2014 #31

I didn't take that to be what the OP was about at all. cui bono Mar 2014 #32

"Full agreement"... rrneck Mar 2014 #34

By not qualifying the statement. cui bono Mar 2014 #41

Awesome!! Sheldon Cooper Mar 2014 #49

Well said nt redqueen Mar 2014 #60

How much support do you need and how should it be expressed? rrneck Mar 2014 #73

Again, patronizing. cui bono Mar 2014 #102

totally loving you, and giving you a hug. just read more of this shit this morning seabeyond Mar 2014 #2

You enjoy your day! cyberswede Mar 2014 #3

It's the equivelent of the racist sufrommich Mar 2014 #6

We have seen this tired argument trotted out time and again etherealtruth Mar 2014 #7

Another excellent analysis. redqueen Mar 2014 #63

I think there is so m times two issues.. . PosterChild Mar 2014 #70

The objection I have is the use of these "arguments" to stifle conversation etherealtruth Mar 2014 #76

you know. too obvious, right? does hunger feel different, depending on the country? nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #94

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #97

ah man. didnt get to read. anyone? nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #98

Sounds pretty obvious to me tkmorris Mar 2014 #9

I love mercuryblues Mar 2014 #11

Unbeknownst to some, I can chew gum and walk at the same time - Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #12

The reason women have it better here is because they refused to accept..... Trust Buster Mar 2014 #14

point. i cannot say that loud enough. and thank you for making the obvious point. you are right seabeyond Mar 2014 #19

Changing the subject to one that wasn't originally SheilaT Mar 2014 #16

some of it may be about priorities though hfojvt Mar 2014 #23

Women's issues in the US are a cat in a tree? So, an unserious problem then? Demit Mar 2014 #29

Are you making any point besides women should just shut up and be thankful for what cui bono Mar 2014 #30

Agreed. aikoaiko Mar 2014 #43

I agree. Some think the only issue to be discussed should be "is she about to be killed or not" nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #62

I agree! In_The_Wind Mar 2014 #83

Hell yeah! "Women elsewhere have it worse" is a fallacious non-argument. alp227 Mar 2014 #88

I had a discussion with a feminist that really had me disturbed. RandySF Mar 2014 #101

Was this conversation around wearing a hijab or burqua? boston bean Mar 2014 #104

Nope RandySF Mar 2014 #109

That goes for any minority group, too. Most people have it better here compared to the universe La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2014 #105