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ProSense

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52. At that point

Sun Mar 30, 2014, 02:40 PM

Mar 2014

"A person may believe that it is a step in the wrong direction, but not want to see it repealed, because repeal would deprive millions of people of thei healthcare coverage. I'm not one of those people. I think it's a step in exactly the right direction, but I think there are many DUers who don't really like it and yet don't want it repealed. "

...I'd want to know how providing access to health coverage for millions of people (including the millions of newly Medicaid eligible) is a "step in the wrong direction"?

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Should Obamacare be repealed because it's a step in the wrong direction? [View all] ProSense Mar 2014 OP

I think those are two separate questions frazzled Mar 2014 #1

No, ProSense Mar 2014 #4

Hey, you said it, not me frazzled Mar 2014 #10

No, it's a direct question based on a claim. ProSense Mar 2014 #13

Oh, I guess I see frazzled Mar 2014 #16

The PP-ACA is a step in the RIGHT DIRECTION DAMN IT!!! LostOne4Ever Mar 2014 #2

I agree with the first post Motown_Johnny Mar 2014 #3

I completely disagree, and see my response. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #5

If you want a push poll Motown_Johnny Mar 2014 #9

It's nothing of the sort. ProSense Mar 2014 #17

Yes it is. Motown_Johnny Mar 2014 #24

What? ProSense Mar 2014 #25

Yes it does. Read the other responses here. Motown_Johnny Mar 2014 #26

I did, and no one is making that claim. You said it "implies" that. No, it doesn't. ProSense Mar 2014 #29

I will try this one last time Motown_Johnny Mar 2014 #35

No ProSense Mar 2014 #36

no one? qazplm Mar 2014 #55

Yes, no one. ProSense Mar 2014 #60

A person may believe that it is a step in the wrong direction, but not want to see it repealed, bornskeptic Mar 2014 #50

At that point ProSense Mar 2014 #52

the point is, people are misunderstanding your point on account of your wordings, Voice for Peace Mar 2014 #53

And ProSense Mar 2014 #58

It's not the wording of the post, it is the way you respond to those who misunderstand. Voice for Peace Mar 2014 #83

Well, ProSense Mar 2014 #84

I am asking, not accusing. Voice for Peace Mar 2014 #86

As I said ProSense Mar 2014 #87

OK. I'm in agreement w/ response #1 Voice for Peace Mar 2014 #91

+1 /nt think Mar 2014 #32

A dumb ass question bigdarryl Mar 2014 #6

No, "dumb ass" may apply to the claim that the law was "a step in the wrong direction." ProSense Mar 2014 #8

Is this a thing that anyone has suggested? Spider Jerusalem Mar 2014 #7

Well, ProSense Mar 2014 #11

Well, obviously anyone who thinks it was a step in the wrong direction... Spider Jerusalem Mar 2014 #19

Someone stated yes to wrong direction, JaneyVee Mar 2014 #12

Short answer: no. Long answer: sufrommich Mar 2014 #14

What do you mean a step in the wrong direction. NutmegYankee Mar 2014 #15

You won't get an answer BumRushDaShow Mar 2014 #18

That's exactly what it is, ProSense Mar 2014 #20

I think it should be repealed and replaced with single payer Bjorn Against Mar 2014 #21

Is that realistic? ProSense Mar 2014 #23

Of course it is realistic, many countries have already done it Bjorn Against Mar 2014 #40

"Many countries" have repealed the law in order to allow the U.S. Congress to pass single payer? ProSense Mar 2014 #41

No, many countries have passed single payer Bjorn Against Mar 2014 #57

Where ProSense Mar 2014 #65

Don't expect many of the ACA's most virulent critics to stop by this OP. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #22

Of course not. I think it is fair to say that would be going way too far Douglas Carpenter Mar 2014 #27

Well, ProSense Mar 2014 #28

for Vermont, probably yes. Nationally? I doubt that we will see that Douglas Carpenter Mar 2014 #31

A lot of states ProSense Mar 2014 #33

No. It is a step in the right direction. think Mar 2014 #30

Republicans are ProSense Mar 2014 #38

Yes they will lose in the long run on this and many other issues. think Mar 2014 #43

No. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2014 #34

Agree, with a caveat ProSense Mar 2014 #39

I think we're headed there no matter what. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2014 #42

k&r nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #37

Fly Paper Poll bahrbearian Mar 2014 #44

For a "fly paper" claim. ProSense Mar 2014 #45

How about other choices besides yes or no bahrbearian Mar 2014 #63

Any suggestions? ProSense Mar 2014 #66

Either you are 100% happy with the current law and want it forever preserved, or you aren't NoOneMan Mar 2014 #71

Obamacare: 31 percent of Republicans want to keep/improve the law ProSense Mar 2014 #72

I have no idea how your algorithm computed that canned response NoOneMan Mar 2014 #73

LOL! n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #74

So why didn't you have a third choice of Improving it, because its flypaper. bahrbearian Mar 2014 #75

Because the poll is about whether or not it should be repealed. ProSense Mar 2014 #76

What would be so hard to add another choice instead of posting fly paper bahrbearian Mar 2014 #77

Start your own poll, this one is about repeal. ProSense Mar 2014 #78

Did someone suggest that it should? Or is this just a gratuitous STRAWMAN? rhett o rick Mar 2014 #46

See comment 7, similar question, and the response. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #47

Also, at least one person responded, yes. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #48

I cant tell if you are serious or joking. I support the ACA but this thread rhett o rick Mar 2014 #59

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #49

Only if the bill that repeals it also creates socialized medicine. nt Deep13 Mar 2014 #51

ACA zealots want to pretend that life is a false dichotomy NoOneMan Mar 2014 #64

"Either we are all supposed to love every period and comma in the piece of shit ProSense Mar 2014 #93

Wow. Canned links. You've convinced me NoOneMan Mar 2014 #94

LOL! You're not "convinced"? ProSense Mar 2014 #95

What was the goal NoOneMan Mar 2014 #96

"Increase your post count?" ProSense Mar 2014 #97

Repealing it would be playing into the GOP's hands. CBHagman Mar 2014 #54

I think once ACA has been in place a few years, and risks are known, it will be much easier to pass Hoyt Mar 2014 #56

A reform should be passed to leave it null, void, and virtually dead in every sense NoOneMan Mar 2014 #61

That is repeal, otherwise that point makes no sense. ProSense Mar 2014 #67

Nothing less than a fart noise would be a justified response NoOneMan Mar 2014 #69

Have fun. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #70

Every one here wants Universal Heatlh Care. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #68

"There are ways to achieve true egalitarian, universal health care in the US without repealing it" brooklynite Mar 2014 #81

Obamacare is the first attempt at the first program to cover all. This first attempt might not be Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #62

Agreed Kath1 Mar 2014 #79

Yup. They never offered an alternative. They still aren't. They're simply whining nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #90

Yes! it's MUCH better to have nothing if we can't have something perfect... brooklynite Mar 2014 #80

Just drop the individual mandate n/t leftstreet Mar 2014 #82

No, it is not a step in the wrong direction SheilaT Mar 2014 #85

I'm "thinking": glad you said that. ProSense Mar 2014 #88

I wish we'd gone straight to a single payer system. SheilaT Mar 2014 #89

Agree, and ProSense Mar 2014 #92